Top 10 Reasons Why Super Smash Bros 4 Sucks

The Top Ten
1 No Touhou characters

Lawsuit time.

2 Too many unwanted characters

Coment sadly buried by irrelevant gushing/whining from someone who had no business on this list: "With the ballot winner being chosen, you'd have thought highly popular characters like Shantae would have gotten in, but NO! Instead, they add a promotional character that clearly didn't win! One that should NEVER have appeared in a game rated E10, anyway! Why did they put in Bayonetta!? Shantae was a MUCH better choice and MUCH more popular! "

Of those that came with the game, Dark Pit and Dr Mario were the least necessary (I'd say Jigglypuff but at this point it's clear that one's never going to be so much as reduced to DLC or a trophy). Of the DLC, was glad to be able to have Mewtwo, Roy, and Lucas back but Corrin (especially given the timing of its release), Ryu, and Cloud were a bit much and Bayonetta was way too much.

With the ballot winner being chosen, you'd have thought highly popular characters like Shantae would have gotten in, but NO! Instead, they add a promotional character that clearly didn't win! One that should NEVER have appeared in a game rated E10, anyway! Why did they put in Bayonetta!? Shantae was a MUCH better choice and MUCH more popular!

Agreed that Bayonetta is way too sexy and inappropriate for this game, and her own games are overrated anyway. Yeah, I can just not buy her, but I still have to endure everyone else talking about her being in this game.

3 Too many Fire Emblem characters

I don't think it's too many. It's fine the way it is. Besides, there hasn't been enough Fire Emblem representation in the older Super Smash Bros. games. Heck, there are even no FE trophies in Melee other than just the two playable characters. Also remember that this is a franchise that has TONS of characters, with an all-new cast introduced in every two games in the series.

Come on, here is like 20 of them. it makes me so pissed. Sakurai I guess is most proud of fire emblem

I agree having non iconic characters really makes them vague and since they have the OP counter they just might be here for the reason of being OP

They're as much pokemon than FE character and pretty much the same for mario character so it isn't a big deal

4 No adventure mode

I gotta agree. I was so disappointed when I discovered there was no adventure mode. They should make it in the next one, along with 8 player smash.

Adventure mode was awesome! It makes me really angry that Smash 4 doesn't have one!

Legit the best part about brawl was the adventure mode

This is literally the only good item on the list!

5 No Hyperdimension Neptunia girls

Well. Hyperdimension neptunia was only playstation only at the time smash 4 was out. Now let's hope nep is dlc for ultimate.

If they added iris heart then the community would turn even MORE innaproppiate

6 Too many non-Nintendo characters

Sonic, Mega Man, Pac Man, Ryu, Cloud Strife and Bayonetta are the only ones I can think of who appear as playable fighters in the game. I don't think that's too many, as it is just enough. Keep in mind that any non-Nintendo character who appears are just 'guest characters' and these are common in a lot of games these days, so SSB isn't the only one.

OK... Lets look at the few there is:
Sonic: Rival to Nintendo and one of arguably the greatest characters of the 80's.
Mega-Man: Debuted on the NES
Ryu: Best Selling Home Version of Street Fighter 2 was on the SNES
Cloud Strife: Final Fantasy debuted on NES
Bayonetta: Bayonetta 2 is Wii U Exclusive

These characters do have ties to Nintendo, hell, some wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Nintendo (In the case of Megaman and Bayonetta 2)

Three of which would have been more at home in Playstation Battle Royale (and remember that Bayonetta 1 wasn't Wii or Wii U exclusive and 2 didn't have to be).

I can forgive Sonic, Mega Man, Pac Man, Ryu, and Cloud due to their iconic status in the gaming world at large, but Bayonetta?

7 Online spammers

Well You Can't Blame The Game (It Rhymes, lol), Its Other People Who Are Playing It Too

That's JUST THE COMMUNITY

THAT'S WHY THERE'S THE STALE SYSTEM, PLEASE!

Ness online players be like: pk fire pk fire pk fire pk fire pk fire pk fire. Not gonna lie I use this strategy as well it works.

8 Too many characters with swords

So... we're just going to forget one of the most important weapons in Video Games and military history? Look at who we'd lose if we did so:
Link
Toon Link
Ike
Roy
Cloud Strife
Marth
Robin
The Female Fire Emblem Character whose name I forget
Pit and Dark Pit

These characters all use the sword differently as to warrant appearing. It would be like saying too many cartoony characters...

Keep in mind that most of the swords here are different and most characters have their unique moveset, but that's no excuse to say that there are too many sword users. There are a lot of gun users here, too (i.e. Fox McCloud, Samus Aran, Mega Man), and I don't see any complaints on that.

What? Swords are like the #1 weapon in video games. Well, maybe #2 since Call of Duty is so popular. But really. I personally do not have a problem with sword characters.

I like swords in gaming! but in smash... just annoying invincible extra range. I had no problem with them before, but since smash 4 I hate them all.

9 Because Melee fans are stuck in the past

The reason why Super Smash Bros. Melee is better in my opinion is because like, back in brawl the graphics were great how Mario has jean patterns on his overalls and in Smash 4, he has plain blue overalls. I like melee graphics better than Smash 4's graphics. I like how there is not a single non-Nintendo character in this game (So did the first one). Jigglypuff is so ruined in Super Smash 4. Jigglypuff's eyes and mouth is ruined. Melee Jigglypuff is way cuter. Enough said...

This is the reason people think it sucks. Everybody whines about the ONE problem with Brawl(occasional tripping), and they want 5,000 new DLC characters in Smash 4, while they don't even notice that both those games have 10 times more material(and better overall material).

Hey wait, I know Melee fanboys are annoying, but what does this have to do with Sm4sh? I bet this person's a Melee fanboy. Uh, I mean girl.

Melee fans have nothing to do with this...

10 Many characters are over powered

Not really... If they are, they can always get nerfed in a future patch or two. It happens, sometimes.

Little mac and KO punch steals games, cloud is OP, bayonetta can combo you again and again, etc.

So? , I Don't Have A Problem With That

All of them are

The Contenders
11 It doesn't teach you how to fight in-game

This is a blessing. I hate it when games force me to go through boring, dragged-out tutorials that prevent me from playing the actual game. I prefer learning as I play.

There are plenty of walkthroughs you can find on the Internet is there is no in-game instruction manual. It happens to a lot of new games these days. It is not that hard.

Not really, they don't teach you anything that is really useful while fighting those Tournament douchebags who are way too good at the game

Good, no more dragged out, long, annoying, and almost absolutely useless tutorials.

12 Too many Pokemon characters

I like Pokemon but I respect your opinion. Not all of them say their names and they only say their names in the anime series. In the games, they each have their own battle cry that sounds similar to a real animal's. Some Pokemon do use human speech, such as Mewtwo and Lucario, so not all of them say their names all the time.

Couldn't agree more. They're all ugly and a part of literally the worst, most cancerous franchise EVER created by ANYONE. It boggles my mind how there are 30-40-year-olds who like this awful garbage intended solely for children of ages 6-10. It's fun killing them though, I wish they kept Kirby's final smash from Brawl so we could cook all the monsters and turn them into delicious foods again. ♥

Actually, it is Nintendo's 2nd biggest franchise, so it should have at least 20% of the roster in my opinion

Well all the Pokemon characters are awesome exept jigglypuff

13 Not enough Mario characters

It actually has plenty of Mario characters and as a matter of fact, being Nintendo's flagship series, there are more Mario reps than anything else. Even Bowser Jr. has all seven Koopalings as his alternate costumes. I'm sure if there's a new character in a future game that ends up being popular, like how Rosalina is today, it will end up to be a fighter in a future Super Smash Bros., but we'll see.

Not even counting DLC, Mario has characters: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Bowser Jr., Wario, Yoshi, Dr. Mario, and Rosalina. Daisy and Waluigi didn't get in the game because they focused on the characters who actually had a noticeable role in the Mario platformers. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see some other Mario characters in it(Waluigi and Fawful would be cool), but I see why they weren't included.

It's actually good they don't have too many. Wouldn't it get kinda boring if there were only Mario characters?

Peter Griffin: Oh My God!, Who The HELL Cares?!

14 Too many clone characters

This is my #1 reason to lower my overall opinion of Smash 4. There are characters that are in this game that should just be alternate costumes. Merge Lucina and Marth (4 costumes each), get rid of Dark Pit and Dr. Mario, give us back Wolf (he was the most different of the 3 SF characters) and add Bomberman and Ice Climbers. People complain about too many characters per franchise like the Pokemon, but at least they all fight completely different. Would be fine with Ivysaur and Squirtle back too. More variety please. Not quantity; quality.

Sometimes clones can be changed or improved. Luigi used to be a Mario clone, but now he has a few different moves that distinguish him from his own brother.

I agree, clone characters are annoying. Dr. Mario is almost identical to Mario, Dark Pit is almost identical to Pit, *flame shield* Toon Link is nearly identical to Link.

There only 3 clones Melee had like 7 it doesn't have too many clones.

15 Awful music re-arrangements

How could they ruin so much great music!? Seriously, the main theme is forgettable (the Final Destination theme sucks especially) and the remixes are bad overall! The only consistently good music is from Melee or Brawl!

There's not that many Smash 4 exclusive remixes, but a ton of them are far inferior to the original songs. I'm looking at you In The Space Pirate Ship and Xenoblade Chronicles Medley.

I don't agree to any of those. Many remixes are awesome! (An Obstacle in Our Path is a great example).

Smiles and Tears! What have they done to you?!?

16 Yukari Yakumo is not in this game

Yukari would be a better character for Smash rather than Bayonetta

Who even is that?

17 No Break the Target

Well I Actually Enjoyed Break The Target, But Still

18 Everyone online uses Cloud or Bayonetta only

Well guess what everyone who probably knows this by now, Bayonetta was nerfed due to tournament complaints and outcries. It was decided either that Bayonetta gets nerfed, or Bayonetta gets banned from tournaments. Cloud on the other hand...who cares...? - Gehenna

Once in a while I might encounter Sonic or Ike, but yeah otherwise those annoyingly cheap third-party characters keep showing up for battle.

You might encounter an Ike player if you're lucky, but even then the luck is in "better buy a lottery ticket" territory.

Count your blessings, person who added this. Soon you'll be fighting nothing but Bayonetta, Cloud, or Snake online.

19 Salty players

Every time you go on for glory they're is that one salty player that rages at you calling you a scrub or U.SUCK it's just a game after if you win or lose to someone get over it! and then there trolls that do anything to make you salty such as crouch spamming or taunt spam.

Same Thing I Said About "Online Spammers", Its Other People Not The Game, You Dumb Dumbs

Salty is something players say just for being toxic you know.

That's the fan base not the game

20 Removal of good characters

The Ice Climbers were this close to actually being in the Wii U version, but no can't have characters exclusive to one version or the other despite having some modes, trophies, and stages be console-exclusive.

Wolf needs to come back in brawl to me he was the best character in the game

Waluigi sucks he doesn't deserve to be a fighter but as an assist trophy

I wish they didn't get rid of Snake he was so cool.

21 Replaced ice climbers with Rosalina and luma

Rosalina and Luma are okay, but makes no sense is that if the ice climbers aren’t in there because of console limitations, why are Rosalina and Luma in there? Seriously, they have the same mechanics as the ice climbers.

They're alike but luma does all fighting

Ice climbers suck anyways

Rosalina and Lima are good

22 The big Smash Ballot

Given that Bayonetta didn't actually win (was said to just be "very popular in Europe"/"within the top 5"- had she actually won outright they would have said so) and the more I hear the claim that while she's not first-party Nintendo "saved" her home series, I'm starting to wonder if the ballot was just for show and to earn Nintendo PR points when in actuality they had planned to put Bayonetta in anyway no matter who actually won.

Are we absolutely sure this isn't to blame for Cloud's presence as well as Bayonetta's? No, I don't think either of them belongs in Smash.

Funny how several characters who likely had more votes than the obnoxious Sarah Palin lookalike have now been confirmed for Ultimate, thus proving they were indeed "realizable"...

A.k.a. why that overhyped stripper is in this game now and we're probably stuck with her in future installments

23 Too much fan service
24 Horrible Lvl. 9 A.I.

The level 9 A.I. Opponents are horrible. When they're not busy spamming projectiles and especially counters, or reading every single one of your inputs, they constantly grab you and run away when you at least try to approach. On top of that, they appear to have constantly regenerating shields, no lag on any moves whatsoever, larger hit boxes for attacks, larger range for edge grabbing, and even more invincibility frames for everything. To make everything even worse, I am very certain that their resistance to attacks and their damage for all attack is buffed no matter what. If you are planning to play offline solo, don't.

Hm... yeah... I went 1-1 against a level.9 CPU and the comment I saw on this is more than right.

25 Classic mode is completely random
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