The Top Ten
Easily the best, he should also be the best singer of our generation. He has done so much and everything he has done so far has been successful. I really enjoyed watching Linkin Park in concert, can't wait to see them again in the future. GO CHESTER, YOU ROCK.
He is awesome! NICE VOICE! From a soft voice to a sudden LOUD VOICE. In his song given up, his screams last for 18sec without even taking a rest! Chester bennington should be 1st instead!
Seriously, how is he not number one? In terms of sheer quality and range, Chester Bennington is absolutely amazing. Listen to his side project "Dead By Sunrise" if you doubt.
People are trying to say that Chester can't change the tone in his screams and he can't go to a clean voice straight after and keep an angelic voice. Clearly youve never heard him sing before because that's exactly how he sings and screams. Just because Danny can scream louder or whatever doesn't mean he is the best. Chester is able to control his voice constantly and no matter what pitch he screams, he can change it at will and he's proven this plenty of times.
I used to be disapointed when seeing danny's vocal when AA was live.. until I found out his live performance for mitch lurker (RIP) tribute, then I realize what this guy is capable of doing.. he's a true beast, but just did'nt like to show much.. I guess
Danny is the Man I have listened to a ton of metal and while others can get close in my head no one can quite get all the notes he brings to the table. Personally I actually dislike Danny from a professional point of view the last album he was with them he didn't even really participate in the creation of it and it suffered because of it. But Stand up and scream is amazing. In particular the High at the end of Closure is just insane. All these singers are great, I'm actually happy with how well profile and accurate this list is to my own opinions. Also I will say this towards the end of his time with AA he changed his voice to be more careful with the health of his vocal chords and I do feel it took a lot out of his performance.
Danny is by far the best screamer on this list. Not only does he scream better than most people, he sings better too. He is the only person I know that can scream lows, mids and highs, but maintain a gigantic singing range. In terms of over all vocal ability, the only person that comes close to him is Corey Taylor. In terms of screaming alone, the only one who comes close to him is Oli Sykes. However, Worsnop surpasses Sykes by a long shot because Sykes is not what he used to be. I feel than Danny definitely deserves the number one spot much more than anyone else on this list
I get that a lot of people don't really like the band Asking Alexandria, but Danny clearly is one of the best singers of this generation. His vocal range is incredible (my vocal teacher didn't believe what he saw) and he can scream for extremely long periods in low, mid and high pitch (though he doesn't do death anymore). People who say he sucks live should watch newer videos (after he quit drinking before performing and took vocal lessons). The only one close to Danny would be Corey Taylor around 2001, but he clearly messed up his voice.
Bennington, Worsnop, Motionless, and Taylor all have a great collection of screams but I think Mitch might have just barely beaten them.
This dude knows how to scream. His screams work amazingly well with the heavy chugging and soaring solos, and the brutal blast beats. His screams are so versatile, and his screams make Suicide Silence one of the greatest metal bands that modern metal has managed to forge
In all honesty, vocalists like Oli Sykes, Chris Motionless, and Ricky Hoover are amazing, but Mitch completely beats every metal singer I've ever heard at all screams. His highs are piercing and smooth and his growls are beyond godly. Aside from when he had vocal distortion, he sounded flawless live. Mitch was, is, and will always be a legend. He is my idol. Without a doubt, Suicide Silence is the best deathcore and metal band ever. Rest in peace, Mitch, you are missed.
How is he not on top of this list. This guy is a MONSTER screamer he is the King of scream I've heard and seen lots of these guys on this list and Mitch tops them all by FAR no doubt about it. He is the best ever to walk this earth. And he is not the best just because he died and all those other lame excuses the other people say he was and still is truly the best screamer. RIP MITCH
Bring me the horizon is a band that I back in most all aspects when it comes to the screaming. Oli is probably though only screamer that I would be able to listen to on his own with no band backing him. I honestly don't understand how someone from linkin park is on this list or any other person from a band that isn't even a screaming band but I shall digress. Most do have extreamly good vocals so I can't bash them for that. I just think that oli goes above and beyond the call of duty by being able to sing like an angel and scream like a demon. Each noise brings me back want more like I haven't before
He's the best screamer in universe. He has unique voice. I didn't heard better screamer yet. Even his damaged voice is the best. Oli should be at first not Chester. And what Axl Rose doing here? Ok, I write this again : Oliver is THE BEST!
No. Just go away. If you honestly think he's "THE BEST" you should make your own awful list instead of commenting on a slightly more accurate one. He's only on this list because of the scene kids who worship him, he's so bad at screaming, especially live. Chino Moreno, Howard Jones, Ryan Clark, etc. aren't even in the top 10, which is just evidence to me that this generation is hopeless, musically speaking. No taste.
Oli's voice worn down as his technique and skills improved. This is sad, as I've watched him grow as an artist since their first EP was released. It's normal for an artist to strain his or her voice occasionally, but with all his constant performing, recording, and practicing, "occasionally" has turned into "a lot". Added his drug addiction, and who knows what other personal problems he may have that impact how he performs, Oli is hurting his voice. It's very likely he's developed maybe one or two vocal nodules, and I seriously can't bear to see him like this. His screams are, even with the damage, absolutely superb, but I'd rather have him take a break than go on hurting himself
Oli sykes has the most controlled undirected scream I have ever heard. By using his voice in cooperation with heavy base riffs he can add several octaves to his lower range and does so with great skill. He can also rise from this low to incredibly beautiful soft tones.
I don't know how exactly Chris Motionless is beneath so many people on this list. Probably because motionless are only now starting to get their groove on and make their mark in metal. Chris has all the supposed qualities that Danny Worsnop (whom is also very talented) from Asking Alexandria has... Except he manages to have an even more diverse range of screams than even Danny. He does epic highs and brutal lows. In a way, his lows sound like Corey Taylor's "2009" screams- mature and deep with purpose (I know most of you who are into both bands would agree). However, he still manages to sound like "cradle of filth" all the same. But unlike all other screamer I know, he doesn't just do the stereotypical lows and highs... He fills in everything in-between with perfectly pronounced middles. He truly is the best screamer in metal in my opinion. I guarantee you're in for goosebumps with the breakdowns of 'immaculate misconception' and 'Abigail', or their new material such as screams in ...more
I love Linkin Park and have been listening to them for years, and Chester's vocals when singing and screaming are excellent, but Chris can scream in so many ways it's overwhelming. The way he transitions from lows to mids to highs is amazing, and he even manages to have awesome cleans. The fact that he is only at 9 on this list, as I'm writing it, is almost offensive as he deserves to be in at least the top three. He is, by far, the most amazing screamer alive. If you want to know what I'm talking about, check out his band "Motionless in White". Listen to Fatal to hear a good example. Or if you want to go old school, Immaculate Misconception, Abigail and City Lights are good starter songs.
I just love the way he changes his screams and how they sound.
His range is almost unreal. His breathing technique is top class and he makes it seem so easy. He does stuff with his voice I've never heard before. His scream is truly unique and characteristic... Because I'd recognise it was him screaming a mile off. Motionless is pretty new in the music scene at the moment so maybe that's why Chris is only 18th on this list. In my opinion he knocks the socks off everyone above, even though linking park, avenge and AA are my favourite bands, no one can deny Chris being just a step ahead when it comes to screaming (it doesn't matter if you like their music or not... The facts are plain to see)
Slipknot '99 - young, gritty, hard working, and raw
Slipknot '01 - all out HATE, emotion, passion, suffering
Slipknot '04 - polished, articulate, witty
Slipknot '08 - deep, captivating, soaring, mature
Corey Taylor of Stone Sour and Slipknot.
Corey is obviously the best screamer out of everyone. His only competition is Danny Worsnop, Because Danny has godly vocal range. Corey is so emotion-filled and angry. I don't think anyone can copy his technique.
Corey Taylor is an amazing screamer, all in all. He can growl, sing softly, sing with force and put emotion into his lyrics. He is also incredibly resilient, can hold screams for extended amounts of time, and is only inferior to Mike Patton in terms of range. Yes people, Corey Taylor's range is almost half an octave larger than Freddie Mercury's! So, technique wise, Corey Taylor should be on top, no doubt.
Corey Taylor has a scream that stands out from other screamers. His sounds more real, more angry, and he does all this with a mask on. He's also one of the only singers I've heard that can switch from singing to screaming without pausing in between. Chester Bennington is the only other singer that can really do this.
This man screams the best of them ALL!
Matt Shadows Must Be The Number One, From Second Heartbeat, Nightmare, Scream, Afterlife, Almost Easy, Tonight The World Will Die, Save Me, So Far Away... Al Of The Song Is The Best!
I love the starting of Bat country
"he who makes a beast out of himself,
Gets rid of the pain, of being a man"
M. Shadows is the best screamer of the world from the first album of avenged sevenfold
Lol, where is Alex Koehler? Alex Koehler is the BEST SCREAMER ever!
Is definitely the best. I've seen half the bands listed live and Whitechapel kills it as its recorded which most guys can't keep that quality going on tour. Especially towards the end of the tour but you can watch Phil the first show of the tour and the last and he kills it every time
When someone screams so low you really start to believe he actually is a demon. The feeling only Whitechapel fans know - Mixer
I think Phil should take Linkin Parks place, death-metal is awesome, he is an absolute beast in the song Let Me Burn
How is Jake not number 1? M. Shadows and Chester don't even scream anymore! Have you guys heard August Burns Red's newest album leveler? Jake has improved a lot in his screams. He definitely has the cleanest screams and the best around. He should've been number one.
He has clarity, range, and he just goes hard on every single track. His sound is just raw and it carries over live. Most screamers on this lists are incomprehensible. Jake brings the whole package.
I don't understand how anyone could say that Linkin Park or Avenged Sevenfold scream, but Jake is definitely one of the best. Number one in my book.
Johnny Davy should be on this list, just listen to his pig squeal in the beginning of entombment of a machine... completely epic.
Randy was in the top ten what happened? Why is Kurt higher this makes no sense. Tim Lambesis was 10 now 12? Why are bad screamers getting hurts then the good ones!. At least Chester is still holding the 1 spot and my favorite screamer Danny holding the 2 spot for a long time. Mitch still holding down three. Like this makes no sense because randy and Tim are at their leagues too
Come on he have the best metal scream ever I really no why chester is the 1st this is my top ten screamer :
1-Randy Blythe (Lamb of God)"HE IS THE BEST IF YOU THINK CHESTER IS THE BEST YOUR WRONG YOU GOT TO LISTEN TO THIS MAN SCREAM HIAL TO SCREAM KING3
2-Corey Taylor (Slipknot)"this man one of the sceary screams and one of the beautiful voices"
3-Chester Bennington (Linkin Park)"by the way chester can't scream any more" sorry chester we all love you
4-Axl Rose (Guns N Roses)"welcome to the jungle scream is one of the best"
5-Kurt Cobain (Nirvana) " he have the best grunge scream but not the best scream of all genres"
6-Layne Staley (Alice In Chains)"for sure the best vocalist but his nemember 6 on topten scream"
7-Michael Jackson "the only pop artist I listen to if you think he can't scream go listen to dirty diana don't worry it hard rock song"
8-Benjamin Burnley (Breaking Benjamin)" just listen to diary of jane"
9-Dave Grohl " his really under rated this ...more
Who ever wrote this is cool BUT the only reason I think so is because randy and Corey is on here you should probably give mitch lucker a space on there
NEVER CALL YOURSELF A METAL FAN IF YOU'RE NOT IN LOVE WITH OR CRAZY ABOUT RANDY'S VOICE...
Randy's voice is so articulate when he screams, one of the few people that can actually make his screaming almost as clear as talking. Also, where the hell is Amon Amarth's singer on this list? Messed up. I think some people on this list are confusing screaming with yelling.
tim I thank you for 'nothing left'... the best metalcore voice and the best metalcore song you have given me... it causes me goosebumps and takes my soul out every time I listen to it...
HE HAS A VERY SPECIAL VOICE. HE HAS A POWER AT HIS VOICE WHICH CAN ATTRACT MORE PPO TO LISTEN TO HIS SONGS.
Listen to "Paralyzed" and you will be amazed. His screams own all these singers here.
Tim is easily one of the best screamers out there... Has that deep gritty yell to that pretty high pitch scream, he can do it all. And has that nasty death metal growl. In my opinion it's Tim 1 and Danny at 2
Kurt deserves to be in top ten there is no question in my mind. He merits it just for the passion in his vocals; his screams are hard to forget even with two decades gone. It is a damnshame the pressure got to him contributed to the ending of his passion, art, and life. Kurt could have been so much more than even the great man that he was the day he died. To hear some of his best work with Nirvana listen to the album bleach for the screams. Listen to Nevermind for the bands greatest work. If by this point you love the band listen to their final album In Utero.R.I. P Kurt Cobain
How can I express the amazingness of his scream? Just listen to the last minute of "Where Did You Sleep Last Night? " from Nirvana's MTV Unplugged. Last minute of you wanna hear the scream. All of it if you wanna be amazed.
No matter that he's gone from us. He is one flipping amazing human being... He left because he couldn't get a thrill out of anything and couldn't appreciate anything or anyone the way he used to.R.I. P
Really? Kurt made good music, but he was NO screamer!
I don't think you listened too much of his music. He was a screamer. Just listen to "Tourette's" and get back to me. - Mumbizz01
Seriously. How have I just had to add him? Forget how awesome his band is (Memphis May Fire), but the dude has an AMAZING singing voice and one of the best Screams I've heard! Seriously, check these dudes out if you haven't already! - mattcooper-kay
Amazing, versatile screamer, can sing great too. Definitely should be way higher on the list, but won't be due to generally being unheard of! - mattcooper-kay
Matty Mullins is definitely one of the most powerful screamers in existence. It actually sounds like he's nearly blowing his voice box out when he screams. So much power and emotion.
I've never heard a vocalist as good and consistent in his sound as Matty Mullins. This guy is a champ. Not to mention his lyrics and melodies are above and beyond the status quo.
Listen to Tears don't fall then vote. You shall soon know the best
He needs to be higher.He should be number 3 with Oli Sykes being number 2 but Chester deserves number 1.-DarkBoi-X
I believe Matt Tuck deserves to be first. He's really one of the best metalcore vocalists alive. He was amazing in Scream Aim Fire.
Don't even argue, listen to tears don't fall and others they speak for itself
How does the best end up at 44, seen most of the screamers live and winston smashes them all, he keeps improving and his vocal range in screams is unmatched, ollie sykes and danny worsnop come close but seriously... Chester bennington can't scream he sounds like an angry possum
I can not believe how could this guy be 44th place man.. Listen to Karma, Idols and anchors, Sleepwalker and many more.. He is the best.. His scream is unique!
Can somebody explain to me how in the hell is winston number 15 and chester number 1? He barely even scream anymore in his songs, hell even post hardcore bands do more screams than him. Now this guy Winston right here, best screamer I have ever witnessed, watch him live and you'll know what I'm talking about
This man can do the high pitched screams to the vicious growls effortlessly. And that queer Chester Bennington's Band is not even METAL or Screamo for God's sake. Additionally Winston is a lyrical master as he shows metalcore's roots in Punk's hardcore.
This guy has a fantastic voice. He dose many different screams, and he can also sing very well. His voice goes fantastically with the incredibly harsh sounding and chaotic guitars and drums of The Dillinger Escape Plan. He does fantastic live performances, and he also did guest vocals on the song "The Feast" by Genghis Tron. (another fantastic band if you've never heard them before)
Listen to the song "Farewell, Mona Lisa" and try to tell me that I'm wrong.
Jesus Christ his range is massive, if only he used it more
His screams aren't thin and weak or low and hidden, perfectly in between. And he screams at the right time, not for full choruses or songs.
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Yes! Love this band!
Ben is the best
I don't see how he is below Danny Worsnop, in my opinion, and Oli Sykes. Oli's screams sound the same, he doesn't hit lows, and he can barely do highs. Same with Danny, who uses equalizers to make them sound the way they do. Mike doesn't, and he can scream live just the same as on his albums. I dunno, I just think he should be a little higher on the list. He has experience and from taking his band as a joke to making an album that hit in the top 40 albums in Rolling Stone... It's an accomplishment. Oli and Danny haven't done that yet, now have they?
I'm being elitist... I know.
This dude can scream though to some it seems as if his scream is fading; it was a personal choice that he decided to go with the more "live" sound on his newer albums, so he didn't feel like he was cheating his audience. In saying this he has a diverse unique scream and I think he is underrated. But this is a forum with a lot of widespread opinions take a look at the "with roots above and branches below" album. This in my opinion best shows his power and stamina to stretch the limits of his vocal chords.
He's an amazing vocalist who does great highs but always brings in amazing lows, just listen to songs like assistant to the regional manager or hey john whats your name again where he displays amazing range and an incredible raspy sound. Also you can understand what he's saying you actually have to listen to the music though. :p
He has incredible screams, I think he should at least get into the top 20.
Spencer should have been WAY higher than a lot of these guys. He's better than Oliver Sykes
Specter is an amazing screamer. He blows my mind at his ability. The number one best.
Spencer, sings, svreams and lead the metal with his mouth
Serj Tankian is allout amazing. A good singer in general but his screams are amazing. Basically any of his screams on the Toxicity album are perfect, BYOB (I believe that was off of Steal This Album, but don't quote me I am probably wrong) had AMAZING screams. I looked at this list not even thinking about the NU Metal and Grunge screamers just the same old screamo and metalcore. However Phil Anselmo would be my favorite metal screamer. I am not sure if he is on this list though
Byob is on mesmerize just a friendly correction. But serj has very creative vocals he was opera trained and you can definitely tell at times. His screams, growls, and vocal control are like no other just check out their debut album if you don't believe me!
Of mice and men was one of the first screamo bands I've ever listened to and by far is my favorite band
Epic highs, intense lows. Why isn't he in the top 10?
This should be on the top ten list! He's way better than Ronnie.
Listen to ungrateful / this war is ours and then vote Craig surely needs to be in the top 20 at leat. Brilliant screams, !
Mabbit is way better than Radke!
Great singer... Though I've never heard him scream much. Also, where is Howard Jones?
He puts so much emotion into his screaming, his growls are awesome as well
What is that? JD is the best screamer. Listen to Good God, Shoots and Ladders, Blind and It's On!
So gutted that Phil is so far down on this list, his screaming is insane, especially on pretty much every song on the Great Southern Trendkill (the title track and War Nerve come to mind). Plus, although it's irrelevant to a "best screamers" list, but on tracks like Cemetary Gates, he proves he can sing incredibly well. My runner-ups would be Corey Taylor, Marilyn Manson, Alexi Laiho and Zack de la Rocha (who isn't even on this list! Listen to Freedom at the end! ).
What how could anyone forgot Phil Anselmo
Look up Superjoint ritual Ozena and tell me if he shouldn't be higher..
Anyone who did not choose him knows nothing about metal or music
Suicide Note Pt. 2, all I gotta say.
The original and the greatest screamer.
Can't believe I had to add this guy. You people don't know what screaming is until you've heard Roger Daltrey scream. The original screamer, and still the best.
The creator of Death Metal and great Screaming, the best ever, him, chris barnes, phil anselmo, marilyn manson and Randy Blythe
Why chuck is so undarrated? Are u kidding me? He has been probably the best screamer ever... Just listen to "the sounds of perseverance", one of the best death metal (I would add melodic death) album of the metal... You guys have strange tastes!
In my opinion, Zach has an amazing voice. Maybe it isn't as good as other voices from this top, but he deserves to be in a higher rank.
I say that layne staley was the best vocolist because no one could sing like him he was so unique in so many ways which made him so much better. I completely agree of what tom morello said when he said that he can scream like an angry angle
No one could scream like Layne. Tom Morello about Layne: "He sounded like an angry angel. "
All I can say is "Imatations are pale"... Even though Layne hasn't been given the credit he deserves, no one will be able to take away his god given talent to sing like and angry angel. RIP Layne - forever missed
Not a big fan of AiC but listen to Would? and tell me that he ain't a god of screaming alongside Steven Tyler. Well, why is Steven on number 233? This list is horrible. Even Kurt Cobain's on 17 huh
This list is so cancerous it gave me tumors. Anyways this dude is my inspiration to scream. Oli Sykes? Dude blew out his voice, yet is still in the top 10. Andy Biersack? Bad screams. Danny Worsnop? His screams make me wanna cut off my ears then drench them in gasoline and laugh while they burn. Trevor on the other hand is awesome, high, black metal- influenced screams, brutal lows, and everything in between. A singer with great technique, tone, and range.
This list is a complete joke. Like I was laughing the whole time scrolling down. All this is, is a popularity contest. I'd love to see AXL ROSE try to death growl the way Trevor can. What a crock.
There isn't a better screamer than Trevor. Just listen to some songs by BDM and you'll see. Watch them LIVE too - aspasiz
Not the best but he deserve better rank than 29th
I think that he deserves to be in the top 10 but yeah.. I don't know... People have different tastes. But I really love Austin Carlile's screaming technique. He is very talented screamer
For a guy who can't death growl he's good. I think his sense of not caring what people think and to just keep going are good qualities. Austin Carlile is one of the best screamers ever.
Austin has the most unique screaming voice from all vocalists in this list and he's amazing live! He must be at least in the top ten!
He is amazing at screaming and he actually screams unlike a lot of the guys on this list. Yeah their vocals are good but they don't actually scream
Check The Guillotine part 2
Definitely one of the most unique screamers in the game. When you hear this guy you won't forget him
He's got some of the most intense screams I've heard. Along with Beau's cleans and the great backing music, Warth is just flat out amazing.
His screams are just so powerful. He should be higher up this list in my opinion. Then when Beau joins it's perfect.
He is the bassist but provides Beau with awesome screams to sing over honestly this guy needs to get noticed more, he is so underrated - ReganKnowsBest
He is hands-down the artist who made me fall in love with the vocal style, and all genres which use it. His performance live is impeccable, and only doesn't sound exactly like the albums' versions due to him typically adding layers of his own voice to enhance the experience.
Most of the other so called "screamers on this list don't even scream anymore. Tommy outshines most everyone else on this list but 26 really? Some people just don't know good screamers or music for that matter
His screams live are just as fantastic as his studio ones. He screams almost effortlessly and just sounds amazing. Who wouldn't put him in at least the top 10? Also his normal vocals are incredible too.
This guy sounds like a pitch shifted banshee when he screams. In a good way. Plus his regular singing is beautiful too.
Now Ronnie is in another band called falling in reverse they're new album is gonna release on june I bet you ronnie will be on fire because he din't leave escape the fate he was only told to leave the band and poor rake had to leave the band he would never give up his career so he created a band called falling reverse as I said ronnie will be on his best hear other songs witch he sang like My apocalypse, Not good enough for truth in cliche (Escape the fate) I am telling you he will be the very best screamer soon!
When I first started listening to his music, from Escape the Fate and Falling in Reverse, I thought someone else was doing the screaming lol. It was just so different from his singing and talking voice, and the transitions between the two were so smooth, I couldn't even fathom it was the same person.
Ronnie was one of the best screamers out there, especially his lower screaming ability such as in The Guillotine. The ending of the song were perfect double-layered screams. But now that he is in FIR he uses more rap than rock and his screams are not as good
This manly kid. He screams awesome. Go buy his bands album. "the Drug in me is you" album by Falling In Reverse available on iTunes.
Laugh out loud axl has never screamed in anything. His voice is really annoying and whiny too.
Screams like a llitte girl :D
You guys are just not listening,i've heard all those dudes,but St.pete FL.93 screamed and did it with his voice I've still yet to hear anyone come close.I think you judge dude cause he's been a fick.Hr with l LP out scream any of those singers in his prime.
How is he this low
I think he made killswitch better and he is doing well on his own
The best vocalist in the world
Definitely better than a lot of the vocalists ahead of him on this list. More of a popularity contest if you ask me! Ivan has a real outstanding kind of voice. Its rich, deep, and the epitome of masculinity!
Ivan has talent in screaming! He should be at least up there on top 10 - 20 range
Amazing vocal range, AND scream range. One of my favorite baritones
Very powerful sinning and screaming (if it can called it)
How is he not higher? He should be at least top 5. Go listen to "Korea" if you don't believe me. Holy crap.
Very good screamer - 10Jackson
I don't understand why this isn't on the list. Chino is one of the better screamers in all music, and one of the best musicians of the past 20 years. He deserves to be up at the top with Chester Bennington, and far, far above any of the scenecore artists people have voted up at the top. Chester and Chino are two of the best screamers and I'm surprised no one added Chino before now!
I absolutely think Chino should be higher up like top 10 at least. Many of the singers in the top are metalcore singers (not Chester, love Chester) and maybe haven't heard much of Deftones and Chinos his distinctive scream.
How is this guy not even on here? He should be top five.
Heck yeahs. :) Don't get me wrong, I love stuff like Asking Alexandria, BVB, and ADTR, but Bon Scott was the original. Not only that, but his scream is not only aggressive, but melodic and beautiful at the same time.
Should be #2