Biggest Game Theory Mistakes

Everybody makes mistakes, even Game Theory, the show that is hosted by a "doo doo brain". Try to at least give Matthew Patrick some slack.

The Top Ten

Game Theory: Why Mario Is Mental, Part 1

Guys, don't hate on Game Theory just because he made this one theory he made made you mad. He's a human, he makes mistakes. Everybody does. - GameTheorist

Never before in my life, have I wanted to punch someone in the the face. I hate game theory. - nintendofan126

This is such a stupid theory the worst theory Matpat ever made all of his points are wrong on part 1 and 2 and if you wonder why we hate him for this theory because this video made lots of people hate Mario and now they love Luigi poor Mario he doesn't deserve this EVER - MarioandLuigiplaysgames17

The worst part about this video, MatPat never wants us to forget it. He now mentions it in pretty much every Mario theory he's done since and even outside his channel on a few occasions.

Game Theory: UNDERTALE - Sans's SECRET Identity!

Undertale and Earthbound are made by different creators. Earthbound belongs to Nintendo. Undertale belongs to Toby Fox. Nintendo has Ness. Undertale has Sans. Nintendo and Toby Fox both have their own copyrights. Undertale has nowhere near the rights to use any of Nintendo's characters. Toby Fox can't make money of of Earthbound characters. Sans being Ness would give Toby Fox a copyright lawsuit. Since Toby Fox is a game developer who actually makes money off of his game, he would HAVE to know that taking characters from other peoples games and putting it into his own games is wrong. In conclusion, SANS CAN'T BE NESS!

He uses a series of references to claim that two completely unrelated characters from two completely unrelated series are the same person. Also, this theory was officially denied by Toby Fox (Undertale's creator) within 2 hours of its publication.

Because being inspired by a series means that all characters have some sort of connection between the inspiration and the work itself

And here is the theory that made the sane half of an entire fandom hate game theory.

Game Theory: Why Mario Is Mental, Part 2

1. MatPat stated that there's no Peach toy in the Mario VS. Donkey Kong series. No Peach toy? There is a Peach toy, MatPat. You probably never seen one before.
2. Mario IS A MURDERER! Wait! Maybe, he's not. It's probably the gamers. Yes! We all know the Toads are turned into brick blocks & they die after being smashed into pieces, but let's think about it. Try going through the first level in Super Mario Bros. without smashing a brick block. You'll see that you've murdered no Toads. Now, try again & this time, smash a brick block. You are a serial killer. BUT WAIT! I'm not done here. So, who controls Mario? You! That's right, you! The one that is playing Super Mario Bros. controls Mario & makes him smash brick blocks. Does this mean we the gamers have made Mario a serial killer? Maybe we did, or we didn't. Also, why do we get points for killing a Toad, why do Toads give you two middle fingers after saving them & why does nobody, I mean, nobody, seriously, NOBODY cares about Mario ...more

Game Theory: Phoenix Wright is a Criminal

really? After this video I have a feeling what MatPat is not actually played Ace Attorney series or even first game. - Vald155

That whole video was just a big no, made disregarding in game lore and ignoring the real actual system it was based on.

Worse than Sans is Ness - DCfnaf

Game Theory: Who Would Win -- Samurai, Knight, or Viking? (For Honor)

He completely forgot about the existence of shields. And when people started commenting about his mistakes he threw a hissy fit and started whining. He was debunked by about 3 different other Youtube channels specializing in this subject. This isn't even something that you could argue with lore. He completely screwed up historical facts repeatedly.

One of the worst, most inaccurate, trite theories he has ever made. - DCfnaf

His worst video in my opinion.

Game Theory: Wii U Is The Next Virtual Boy

HE DESTROYED THE WII U DURING IT'S LAUNCH! He didn't even wait for it to finish the launch before spewing out that garbage.

That was THE episode that made me realize somthing... HE HATES THE GAMING INDUSTRY AND IS TRYING TO DESTROY IT! I'm new t kidding! Between this theory, his role reversal (or bad guy is the good guy and good guy is the bad guy) theories, and him attacking Nintendo more times than I can count, it's safe to say that it's fact! But hey that's just a theory. You don't have to take it as fact even though I COMMAND you to think of it as undeniable fact and spread my BE across the internet because I AM A FOR OF THE INTERNET!

My gosh I really lost it there.

Wii U + Smash Bros. 4 and Mario Kart 8 = Game Theory was wrong.

He couldn't have been more wrong

He literally complains how the WiiU didn't come bundled with a game, even though it's almost impossible to find one without a game. That would be like MatPat scolded Nintendo for not porting any Sonic the Hedgehog games to the Super Nintendo.

Plus if it is not the game you want, it's COMMON SENSE you have to buy a game! Do you pay for an oven and hope it comes with food? I hope not! - DCfnaf

Game Theory: Fart Rocket Physics With The Wario Waft-"Wario is practically 10 feet tall."

I've seen the Mario is mental and Wii U videos, and they at least have some point to them. This video is just all mistake. Completely based on mathematical flaws, that leads to one of the greatest mess ups in MatPat's history. He even referenced it in his Mario is communist video, which was a funny reference.

Why does he think warioware is taller than samus, when clearly samus is taller than wario.

These theories can be pretty weird at times, but this one was just ridiculous.

This is a classic mess-up. - Patty_C

Game Theory: Rosalina is Peach's Mother

Every single human character is the game's has blue eyes except for Wario and Waluigi. Every single character has attached earlobes. The two trees are clearly not the same kind or in the same location. Luigi and Peach have no interest in each other and the picture at the end is probably a hint that Luigi X Rosalina is possible. The telescope is an illusion and not a real telescope. Also, you disproved your own theory.

"Rosalina was originally going to be related to princess Peach"


Actually stated in multiple sources that "When the game was being developed, the creators were originally going to make Rosalina related to Peach in some way, but ultimately decided against it." This came LONG before his theory, making both videos redundant in the first place.

He bases his theory off the fact that they both have blue eyes and attached earlobes, and claims that the tree from the storybook (clearly a pine of some kind) is the same as the clearly-not-pine seen in the game's ending.

Correction: Peach is Rosalina's mother

Game Theory: Toad's Deadly Secret

I don't agree with a lot of mat pat theories but he is not THAT BAD lolol. - HeavyDonkeyKong

Game Theory: How Fast is Sonic the Hedgehog?

He used Modern Sonic's height to scale a Classic Sonic game.
Also, Sonic travels at 321 meters/second. When he side steps in the modern games, he maintains his speed, and also, why does he only go 321? He's so close to the sound barrier...

He doesn't want to. Sonic Booms (breaking the sound barrier) causes EXPLOSIONS. He doesn't want to destroy his home of Green Hill.

Now, you're thinking "He wants to destroy Eggman's bases! He doesn't break the barrier then! ". Wrong. Sonic is also considering his own safety. Have you not seen Scrap Brain Zone?!

Imagine if Sonic the Hedgehog literally traveled at the speed of sound in the game as in, A sonic boom like what he wanted it to be. It would be game breaking and also worthless to play a stage because it will be completed in a matter of 5 seconds to 1 minute. - YourWaifuSucks

I like how he used classic sonic's zone while using modern sonic's height when in Sonic Generations, it's out right obvious that classic sonic is shorter.

Gnoggin debunked this. When Sonic runs up a chain of stories-tall links, he runs several hundred colossal links in about three seconds. There was no life around to harm by causing a sonic boom, and he jumps off a cliff onto it, giving you a clear view of his sonic boom hitting the water.

The Contenders

Game Theory: Who is W.D. Gaster - Four Minute Detour Complaining About His Hate

One of the worst and most annoying things he's done. - DCfnaf

Should be number 1 (#exposing dory Should be number 2)

None of his evidences are true. sans doesn't always use his left. when he tried to prove that gaster is sans and papyrus he didn't solve the other contradictions like : who are the two gaster was speaking to? how they can be him if he was already shattered in time and space and one of his followers had a piece of him? is splitting into 2 skeletons called shattering? why did the guy who is alleged to be gaster disappear, does papyrus have also the power of transporting through time and space?

Telling His Fans to Harass Ellen DeGeneres About His Theory of Dory Faking Her Short Term Memory Loss

Wait... did he actually do this?!

Really dude...

Game Theory: Best Breasts in Gaming


Completely inappropriate

Kind of a pervert

Holy Grail! What the hell was he thinking of? Rosalina?

Treating Mario Like the Devil

All they do is ruin Mario's reputation. - ZachMandoGames

Believing that the Universe Resets in Super Mario Galaxy

Did he Age of Sigmar Mario?

The reason I put this on the list is because I know what was MEANT to be the point. In the ending cutscene of super Mario galaxy (the first one) after Mario got knocked out, Rosalina tells Mario that when a star dies it scatters star dust and star bits everywhere and when it piles up enough, it will turn into a new galaxy. However, Matpat concludes that he when Rosalina says "but the cycle always differs slightly", which is what Rosalina MEANT to say, he thinks she means instead of "the new galaxies make new planets, new creatures, and new environments," he thinks she meant "the universe (or as he says the galaxy) resets every so often and has different things changed, created, or disappeared".

If you find out that what was meant to be the case was that no 2 galaxies are ever the exact same even if they have similarities between them, it basically debunks the ENTIRE theory (and yes I know that peach and Rosalina where going to be related but it was decided not to and I can ...more

The Team Fortress 2 vs Overwatch

This video has more errors about both games than there are stars in the universe.

worst ever

Creating the Channel

When he made his channel he knew that it'd get popular and now that it is popular, he is able to get views with absolutely no effort. You can't just name a channel 'Game Theory' or 'The Game Theorists' without self-asserting that you are the be-all end-all and everything you state is fact. And saying 'That's just a theory' at the end is smug and inconsiderate. Other theorists do a better job.

Yes this is the worst mistake he ever did

The biggest mistake this whack job "theorist" has ever made.

Game Theory: Why I gave the Pope UNDERTALE

When I saw this video I started cringing and having flashbacks to the "Sans is Ness" episode at the same time. I mean, I like both Game Theory and Undertale, but this is just awful. To be honest, it's fans like these that give good franchises such bad reputations.

It's more likely for Emma Watson to fall in love with me than the pope ever playing this game

Come on, a copy of a game isn't that bad. - Ultron123

Until you realize that the pope probably doesn't have a computer or a steam account so he can't use it. - Lmrpirate

This is so wrong, according to hime he gave Undertale to the pope because the games encourages pacifism, that's so wrong because we have Mario and other Nintendo games that have minimal violence what so ever - Hoxton

So...because he gave the pope UNDERTALE of all games, that means it was wrong for him to do it? - DCfnaf

Game Theory: The Gender Of Team Fortress 2's Pyro

Valve has always been evasive concerning pyro's gender, often switching from reffering to the pyro as "her", to "he" and sometimes even "it"

Valve has confirmed that there were no female classed in production of tf2. There is even unused audio for meet the pyro that confirms it as male.

Game Theory: Portal's Companion Cube Has A Dark Secret

He cherry-picks 'evidence' for his theory, even outright fabricating some of it (such as the fact that the Companion Cube screams when it's incinerated; it's a sound the radio makes that he's taken out of context), and jumps to conclusions based on little evidence that contradict established canon. The video just rubbed me the wrong way.

Does Luigi MEASURE Up

When getting Mario's measure from a Japanese comic, something that Matpat didn't take into consideration nor think of was that one the Japanese style like that most penises are that size. I've seen it a lot actually, even in old art at a recent Nude Renaissance exhibit at the Getty Museum. Because of this, the actual size cannot be determined from this comic, due to the specific style of it.

And to be fair, they probably did that because if they made it any bigger or what they'd possibly consider to be his canonical size was then it would be deemed as inappropriate. The size that it's at within the art is a little more palatable.

Thank you for listening to my Ted Talk.

What MatPat said about Mario’s weiner being 2.6 inches is based on a Mario comic that isn’t considered canonical to the franchise. Also, he said Luigi’s stick is half an inch larger due to that much being buried in the mons pubis, only to take it out in the final equation. He also assumed that Luigi’s dick was flaccid for that image because he used statistics that more men are showers than growers. So if Luigi’s schlong was 4.66 inches erect, then he’d have a bulge that is 4.2 inches on the low end, 3.15 inches on the high, if it was flaccid. This is not a serious mistake, but it is good to address.

Game Theory: Morph Ball is Lame

I hate how he tells us to curl up into a ball so that he can laugh at us!

Morph ball has many useful applications, it is not just something born out of coding issues.
For example, when a physical force hits a sphere it has to be dead on for it to do any real damage, if it is not then the force will bounce right off.
Morph ball also allows access to bombs and power bombs and traversing surfaces that a magnet can stick to.
Morph ball also allows more mobility, as shown when Samus dodges gandrayda's attack before the fight.

Super Mario Odyssey's GIANT Problem

I think Mario's height being 5 FT has changed. The original image that says he's 5'1 set Luigi up to Peach's height, and Peach is currently a little bit taller than Luigi. Not to mention things do change over time (like Mario no longer being a plumber). I believe Mario shrunk down in size and the humans are normal sized.

He measured the humans based on Mario's statue height despite what the interviews with Yoshiaki Koizumi said about using the humans to measure Mario.

Two interviews debunk this, not to mention Matpat pulled the "10 feet tall" thing outta his aye, because if Mario was really 155cm, and you did the measurements yourself, the Human Males of New Donk City would actually be around 251cm, and the two interviews that debunk this theory are here - and - making it clear that, which, the first interview makes it clear we are supposed to use people from our world in which we live in to measure Mario's abilities, which can also be applied to his height, and the second one mentions how the literal creator of Mario was worried on how players would react to seeing that Mario is this tall and NORMAL PEOPLE are just a little bit taller, so doing exactly what they said and measuring Mario by comparison to a person from ...more

Persona 4 Teddy is Yu’s Shadow

He didn't even seem to want to make this video based on his opening statements

So many factual errors

Attacking Other People's Gifts to The Pope Compared to His

No one should ever attack anyone else's opinions or actions, unless they harm someone

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