Biggest Mary Sues of the Warrior Cat UniverseI'm sure we've all thought at least one character in the Warriors universe was a Mary Sue. In case you don't know, a Mary Sue (or Gary Stu, for male characters) is a character in the story that angsts about everything, is utterly perfect, and imbalanced compared to ther other characters. If you would like a more in-depth explanation, Google it.
Now, a Mary Sue (or heck, even Kitty Sue) is NOT just a character you don't like. Don't put characters up here unless you truly think they're unbalanced and either too generic/predictable or too overpowered. OCs will not be allowed. Feel free to put in plenty of cats, but I wouldn't recommend trying with the less well-known ones (such as cats in Codes of the Clans), as those are likely to just collect dust at the bottom of the list. Finally, please don't vote on a cat just because you think they shouldn't be called a Mary Sue. I may be new to this website and all, but I know that upvoting your favorite character to be recognized as an unbalanced one wouldn't be among the best of ideas.
Now, let the Listing Games begin, and may the odds be ever in the favor of your submitted cat!
The Top Ten
Dovewing is just very annoying in my opinion and she is nothing like her sister, though it breaks my heart because her and Ivypool would've been the best twins ever! And Dovewing just feels like a replacement of Hollyleaf, it didn't seem fair. Out of the blue she had these super-natural seeing powers that she probably would've told someone about before and not to mention Tigerheart and Dovewing are just an annoying couple. It doesn't seem right, not just because their both from another clan cause I have nothing against that, it's just, it doesn't seem to fit. And when she broke up with Tigerheart and went to Bumblestripe my mind went, UGH! Because Bumblestripe could do way better than her, I don't ship Dovewing with anyone and she's just an annoying character in general, she is a total mary-sue and I have no idea why people favor her.
Okay FIRST OF ALL Dovewing is NOT a Mary Sue, she just wanted everything to be exactly how she wanted and just because you get a whole novella about how sad you are about losing your powers and you have two toms who would love to be your mate and a caring sister who would do anything for you but you totally flipped her off by following your heart and everyone loves you IT DOES NOT MAKE YOU PERFECT. It just makes your life correct in every way.
Dovewing isn't a mary-sue! She was a part of a prophecy she didn't want to be in, and do you think she wanted her and Ivypool to fight all the time? No. She isn't perfect. Yeah, sure, she had two toms after her, but wouldn't that be pressuring to y'all? Dovewing has flaws, you know.
Do you guys even realize how much she ticks me offV 156 Comments
Why is he apart of every prophecy? The whole five cats from each clan thing, he wasn't apart of. Blood will spill Blood, that was an OMEN, it didn't really make anything bigger. Even the power of three, it was HIS kin. I liked Firestar, but he should've just been the greatly remembered leader if not a little less. He did a lot of things, so he had his spotlight. Jayfeather, Lionblaze, and Hollyleaf should've just had the spotlight. Then Dovewing replaces Hollyleaf, and above all, his final act of heroism took the place of someone like Ivypool or (FINALLY) Hollyleaf.
His character was stretched too much. He should've just been the cat to face Tigerstar, like he sorta hoped in Darkest Hour.
Not gonna lie, Firestar is a pretty great cat and one of my favourites for quite some time. Until I read past the first series. Firestar always saves cats' lives, makes the right choices, does brave and noble things... can anyone even think of one thing he did wrong after the first series?
This cat. Just... I can't even say anything...
Sure, he was relatable in the first series, but after that, he just became the most perfect being in the world. He loved everyone, and took in kitty pets and loners for goodness sake!V 106 Comments
Alright. Spottedleaf, you are going DOWN- no, Firestar, you can't stop me. I have the Bill of Rights. *waves in his face* Anyway, here is my list of sins that Spottedleaf has:
First: It was love at first sight. Love at first sight is almost never good. Because it's about LOOKS. He probably smelled her sweet scent (catmint. Firepaw didn't know what catmint was back then. She smelled of catmint.), saw her perfect coat (cats who care about what they look like...*shudder*), and saw her perfect green eyes (Sandstorm has green eyes too...), and thought *SHE'S SO HOT AND I'M GONNA MARRY HER. Bo-ring!
Second: She's. Way. Too. Old. Like, how?! Is an explanation needed for this?! Nah...
Third: She kept trying to steal Firestar away from Sandstorm! Unfair! She should be ashamed of herself! Trying to get Firestar to love a stupid dead cat instead of a living cat who's much more disciplined than her and is overall, just better! At least Sandstorm got to know ...more
That was beautiful! Spottedleaf was as useless as a rock. Even the rock has more personality than her. Even Sandstorm and Bluestar are better than her! - MLPFan
Spottedleaf is honestly the worst cat in the warrior cats universe and the WORST MARY SUE IN THE WORLD. Reason number one she is stunningly gorgeous and she has love at first sight. Secondly, practically every cat in ThunderClan thinks she is perfect. And it is so darn creepy after oh so devastating death she haunts him! That is why Spottedleaf deserves to be first on THIS list!
Spottedleaf: hey Firestar how about a dream date with your ghost wife!
Firestar: I have a girlfriend. - Murphypaw
She stalked him in his dreams, even though she knew that Firestar had already had kits with another cat. - sydneyhelgetV 95 Comments
So much wasted potential! I still haven't read Bramblestar's Storm, but I know quite some information about her. She and Bramblestar maybe could have been together? Honestly, I think it would have been interesting while I was reading Visions of Shadows to find out that Bramble is with a former-kittypet, and that Squirrelflight was okay and moved onto a new tom. I would have liked to see Squirrel with a different ThunderClan tom who actually loved her! Yet, Bramble and Squirrel remained the same from before the whole Holly, Jay, and Lion fiasco started up. And I'm really questioning why? They could have forgiven each other and moved onto new mates, and more people might have liked that! But no! I'm just sort of disappointed with the new plots of the newer books. Sure, the Apprentice's Quest wasn't the absolute worst, but it had a lot of boring things in it. I really would have liked to see Alder and Spark with a new father! But their father is just Bramblestar in that book. I would ...more
I'm not caught up with Warriors, but...is this another one of those "forbidden love" scenarios where a cat loves somebody else (or in this case, "cheating")?
Honestly. Bramblestar's like," Oh Jessy, I could have loved you! Smoochy smoochy! "
'Squirrelflight watching from behind and whooping when Jessy turns him down'
Jessy: " Naw man, dat don't work out! U love Squirrelflight, and you know it. now lemme go! "
Honestly, Jessy is fine, It's Bramblestar that's a Gary Stu.
Hi everybody! Once again, make sure you visit and vote on MY lists! Thank you! - FiremistV 38 Comments
I personally don't think Millie is that much of a Mary-Sue. If you've read the three manga books about Millie and Graystripe, (The Lost Warrior, Warrior's Refuge, Warrior's Return) you can see how much Millie helped Graystripe on his return to ThunderClan. When Graystripe was about to give up hope of ever finding ThunderClan again at the end of Warrior's Refuge, Millie encouraged him and she was probably the reason how Graystripe found ThunderClan again. Sure, she refused a warrior name, and is a bit too worrying when it comes to Briarlight, but I just think that it's from her lack of experience in a Clan. Give her time, and consider her overall appearance. Millie shares qualities with Daisy, and I think both their reasons are because they weren't Clanborn. I'm not saying this as an offense to non-Clanborn cats, it's just that cats like Daisy and Millie are naturally overprotective because they don't know how well Clan cats take care of each other. Millie is better than Daisy, though. - Aurashine
True anyone else remember that she can speak DOG
People point out her flaws and then call her a mary-sue. Does the fandom even know what the term means?
Why is she here? Maybe I'm not looking into it, and I'm sorry if I'm not, but personally I love Millie as a character. - JuniperV 48 Comments
This cat is my favorite!
She is a lonely and lovely cat, and has suffered so much how on earth could you call her a Mary Sue? First of all, a Mary Sue has no feelings except happiness and love. Her feelings are amazing, all over the place. She is angry and irritated in the new prophecy, but more mature at the end (I still haven't read all of the new prophecy), Loves in the power of three, then, at the end, she is sad and suffering, and upset and lonely. She finally has some kits and feels grief and loving things. She tries to work them hard and feels sorry and excited. She suffers so much! How could you call her a Mary Sue?
Hello you guys. You know what? This list doesn't say that being a Mary Sue on this list was necessarily BAD. And Squirrelflight is a main character in the book series. Squirrelflight is the best character in the WHOLE BOOK SERIES. And she is a main character so ya...
Squirrelflight is my favorite warrior cat!V 46 Comments
He is just a typical hot guy in warriors who is also bland and boring
I Hate Lionblaze he shows off
I feel like in the 3+Hollyleaf, Jayfeather was the only one who actually had an understandable personality. Dovewing and Lionblaze's narration was so boring sometimes I just skipped the parts...The only reason he tops Dovewing is because he's like the typical buff but lacking individuality kinda dude whose like only purpose is to fight
Hey,it I not his fault he was in the prophecy. I don't think he was loved by every cat. To me he was only loved by Cinderheart.V 37 Comments
He is NOT a Gary Stu! He is a Yarg Uts! (Gary Stu Backwards! )
I like onestar! He's pretty cool and is not at all a mary sue! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
He is not a mary sue at all. He is the complete opposite of it. He is terrible. He should have just stayed as onewhisker instead of stupid onestar. Even the name onestar is terrible! Onestar is a eus yram!
-Pebblefrost - gymnastsofa
Annoying indeed, but turning rotten is... how do I say this... the exact OPPOSITE of turning sue? Also he has like, one strength, and like, fifty flaws? He's more of a... eus yraM (mary sue backwards)?
How far you have fallen, Onewhisker, old friend. - Juniper
I'm not a massive fan of leaf pool but I wouldn't consider her as a sue. She isn't the prettiest cat ever (not saying she's ugly just normal looking). Like all medicine cats she is close to star clan just like spotted leaf yellow wing cinder pelt and Jay feather. She has drama and gets upset about cats dying and is very soft hearted not in a good way though. She had one Tom padding after her which was crow but he wasn't exactly madly in love with her. He was just thinking about feather tail and basically compared loads of stuff to her which is why I think that. Leaf pool didn't adapt to being a warrior too well to be honest and the only thing I can really say which makes her special is the fact she found moon stone and has the kits from the power of three and her father is clan leader which isn't really her it's just her Mary Sue kin
Hmm...75% Sue. She is pretty, peaceful, falls in love easily, (with someone you would never think had mutual feelings.) blames herself for the death of my favorite character after going on about "true love," (which isn't really a red flag for Sues, but it's a common side trait, with Mary Sues finding their one and only...) AAAND she gives birth to the three power kits, (which were painful to read about...) and is evidently slightly intelligent for being a med. Did I miss anything? Oh, yes! When she gets kidnapped, she easily knows exactly what to do even though she hardly knows humans at all. No sense of violence, so she is an innocent, pretty, smart, gives birth to powerful beings...Nevermind. Just-just call her a Sue!
I absolutely hate how dramatic and near perfect Leafpool is. She's almos5 always seen as innocent because "we all make mistakes", she's totally peaceful, she always knows how to soothe others, she loves to go '"Starclan, help us! " Leafpool begged', almost everyone who isn't involved in plot-related drama with her is nice to her, she gets involved in lots of big things, she has a special connection to Squirrelpaw/flight, she figured out how to escape the twolegs, she found the moonstone, Starclan adores her, Crowfeather falls in love with her just because, her kits all forgive her... so much more. The way she gets to become a Medicine Cat again and receives almost no backlash from anyone other than her kits and Crowfeather's mate and son after her stupid love drama (which is all swept under the rug in the latest series) is just... no thanks. Maybe she doesn't have three toms after her like Dovewing does, but I can't stand how everyone seems to love, how she seems to have no flaws ...more
Ah, person who can't spell, punctuate, or anything you should be able to do on a normal basis, she couldn't control her father and mother, but she COULD control her kits. She could have killed her kits or given them away if she didn't want them. She had forbidden love, (a common thing in Sue Stories) special snowflake kits, and just GAVE UP HER ROLE AS A MEDICINE CAT. Crowfeather should have been with Feathertail.V 40 Comments
I've seen this so many times how is she a Mary Sue? Answer is she isn't!
She is brave
She also has flaws. She is insecure about her scars and envious of Cloudtail's relationship with Daisy. INSECURE AND ENVIOUS! Those are flaws. I can't see how anyone can think she's a Mary sue.
Why is she on here she is such a nice character! She is...
Not a mary- sue - Murphypaw
Well, I got sort of mad at her when she helped Cinderpelt, it seemed like she was trying to take Leafpool's place. But now I know she didn't mean to, but like she was so perfect...you know? But I mean she had Cloudtail, and they were so cute. But like, she is 3/4th a mary-sue because she just seemed so perfect when Daisy came along, like Cloudtail isn't a idiot. He loves Brightheart, and would never give her up...like what the crap Brightheart but I mean she understood but like still...…..
Yep! She was nice and all but, personality wise, she is every kid in school who ever bullied me! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarriorV 18 Comments
Finally. This snobby brat is a Mary Sue and disappointment
I completely disagree with this. She is NOT a Mary Sue at all. The definition of a Mary Sue is a character who is perfect. Does this describe Silverstream? No. She is deeply flawed, but not enough to seem terrible. She's stubborn, confident, arrogant, strong, sarcastic, independent. The list goes on, but the one thing that will not be on the list is Mary Sue. Re-read the books, dudes.
I don't think so, but on the other hand I really like Silverstream so I could just be totally biased. - ILuv2ReadAndWrite
85% mary sueV 29 Comments
I honestly have zero idea how Goldenflower got here. Like what? I'm actually confused - Juniper
She wasnt a really mary sue mary sue
Goldenflower has her own fair share of flaws, who ever wrote this can't see that.
Pluse she is one of the only peple who has reason behind hateing her (former) mate.
Honestly, why, just why?
Frick yes. She betrayed Thunder by telling One Eye about the groups plans. Then, she just had kits with Clear Sky, when she "dated" Thunder, who is Clear Sky's son! And of course she's VERY pretty.
Yeah, no, total Mary Sue. Her "loyalty" is all over the place, and she plays with the emotions with pretty much all the toms ever. I mean, really? And she puts on the water-works when her father is murdered, but then becomes mates with one of the cats who wanted him dead? I want to trust her now that she is Clear Sky's loving mate, but I can't: she's always seemed just naturally evil. She's manipulative, secretive, and treats toms like objects.
What if she became leader
Star Flower is like the worst cat in the warriors world for me. I mean, she attracts all the toms, is cruel, sneaky, manipulative, a two-faced liar...she played with Thunder like he was a mere THING, then mated Clear Sky. I hate him too; they're matched in cruelty. I just...if ever meet her I'm going to murder her in cold blood. - BlossomfrostV 21 Comments
Ugh he abounded his clan when they needed him the most and returned when it suited him, and his mate dovewing is a Big marry sue One time she said ivypool was jealous of her and she quats "no wonder hollyleaf isn't part of the prophecy she killied a cat! "
I hope Tigerheartstar faceplants himself into moldy lasagna
This guy is such a mary-sue.V 8 Comments
Can I just say this
I HATE SCOURGE, HATE ME ALL YOU WANT BUT I'D KILL THIS DUDE IF I WAS A WARRIOR CAT, ALSO, I MADE A STORY ABOUT ME KILLING SCOURGE ACTUALLY
The reason is he's overrated and stupidly weak. People see him as strong but he's only killed like 3 cats and that's nothing compared to Sol, mapleshade, and Tigerstar if not more. They're all giving him awkward looks like 'that's all you can do? ' - DerpaHerpaMerpa
Why does everyone like Scourge? He is a stupid jerk who kills people and everyone likes him. Really?
Um guys what is a mary sue?
Um HELLO?! SCOURGE IS NOT A GAY STY! Think anything about him you want, hate meV 22 Comments
Why is he on here! - Murphypaw
Gary-Stue is not a REALLY bad thing... - sydneyhelget
Why is he on here - Camaro6
WHAT THE HELL - ScarletfallV 3 Comments
Brook, you and your tribe hold Stormfur captive. You're not... Just...
HOW CAN BEOOK JUST FALL IN LOVE LIKE THAT? - poppystar
Ugh. Brook should go die in a hole. - Scarletfall
Once again, a cat added because someone didn't like her, not because she's a Mary Sue.
I don't like her :3
Jayfeather is anything but this. Jayfeather isn't handsome,strong or invincible (Lionblaze is though) like a Gary sue. He doesn't have an overly depressing story. People are using the Leafpool reason to justify it. How would you feel if you were told you were adopted? Lied to your whole life by your mentor. You'd freak out.
Also If you say him being edgy and snappy makes him a sue then that makes Blackstar,Bramblecaw (when he was whining about Squirrelflight),Berrynose and Squirrelflight all Sues as they're whiny. But none of that is true all of those characters are Mary/Gary sues. People who don't like Jayfeather don't have good reasons other than "whiny" and "edgy". Scourge is the edgiest cat so complain about him. - Dawnlight
Um, excuse me, could someone tell me where the lie detector machine is? Oh thank you! *Straps lie detector around whoever put this in here* *Lie detector buzzes so much it explodes* Jayfeather? Really? I really liked him, he was so cool! He puts up with blindness, was one of the three and is ADORABLE! Look at that face! So is he a Mary Sue? NOPE! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Jayfeather is a mary sue and there is nothing to it
NO. Jayfeather is the complete OPPOSITE of a Gary Stu - RoseWeasleyV 42 Comments
Wait a minute... to all you people who think Bramblestar is a Gary-stu, maybe take a second to think... Ah yes, trained in the DARK FOREST, Had an EVIL FATHER, and in case you didn't know, Mary-su's and Gary-stu's are supposed to mean "A CAT THAT HAS NO FLAWS"
Yup, Bramblestar is a Gary-stu. HAHAhaha... This is officially the stupidest list I have ever seen. Squirrelflight was never even described as pretty! He doesn't even have that many friends! Feathertail and Stormfur are gone. Crowfeather's returned to his prickly old self. Ashfur pretty much backstabbed him by working with Hawkfrost, claiming he was not trustworthy, and insisting Leafpool made up a StarClan sign. He wasn't even temporary deputy! Graystripe was officially pronounced dead, they even had a funeral. Brambleclaw was officially deputy. It's like a deputy deciding to retire. If for some reason the deputy wants to be a warrior again, he's not going to be reinstated as deputy.
Bramblestar was tempted to kill his own leader. Gary-stu? NOPE. He was the son of Tigerstar, and had to struggle to prove his loyalty to his own Clan just because of his looks. Gary-stu? NOPE. He and Squirrelflight argued a lot. Gary-stu? For the third time, nope. Even though he knew Tigerstar was ...more
Well, Bramblestar is quite a bit of a Gary Stu. I know he's a skilled warrior, but in Bramblestar's storm, he defeats a fox that's at least twice as big as him all by himself.
I HATE BRAMBLESTAR! Such a Gary Stu! He LEFT SQUIRRELFLIGHT for being loyal to her sister! And I bet he would do the same for Tawnypelt. Bramblestar complains that Squirrelflight is accusing his half-brother and SHE WAS RIGHT! And Brambleclaw bossed her around and bullied her just because he was deputy and he could. BO - SwiftdawnV 12 Comments
I agree that Oak heart is a May Sue. He was always trying to make CrookedStar do the right thing. Tottaly Mary Sue!
You could say he's a Mary Sue for one reason... Crookedstar got his injury his mother completely ignored his brother and paid attention to him only.
Oak heart is not a Mary Sue and he's a good cat has a horrible mother (one of my least favourite cats)a wonderful father and brother great clan...and now that I think about it maybe he is...a little bit.
He's to arrogant, but I have sympathy for his messed up kit-hood - SongwindV 7 Comments
Depressed emo cat? Yeah, he's TOTALLY a Mary Sue. - Willowfur
How does loving three cats make Crowfeather, Crowfeather of all cats, a Gary-stu?!?
He's the exact opposite of a Gary-Stu seriously this list is getting ridiculous
He loved three cats Nightcloud Leafpool and Feathertail.V 9 Comments
How is Feathertail a Mary Sue or a weakling? She had argued with Stormfur in defense of her relationship with Crowpaw(who was from a different Clan, don't get me wrong though, Crow x Feather is one my favorite ships). She most definitely is not weak. She sacrificed herself to kill Sharptooth, a mountain lion 2 times her size, when an entire Tribe couldn't do it.
If you think she's weak or a mary sue you are evil
I think this is why she's dead. - Juniper
Feathertail defense rant.
Ok, if you really think she's weak or a mary sue, re read the books. Do you think this would be a Mary sue!? Her mother died, she argued with her brother, Stormfur all the time, loved a cat younger than her, and than she died young, and was never able to start a family. Feathertail lived a short life. You really think that would be a Mary sue? We can see that she has many flaws. She loved a cat from a diffrent clan and didn't let her brother help her. A mary sue would never do that. Feathertail is simply awesome.Stop calling this poor cat a mary sue. And by the way SHE A WEAKLING DIISTORTIONS!
Gleam who now - Juniper
Don't know this character and for sure is not canon, but she does sound like a mary sue - ILuv2ReadAndWrite
All right first of all... HER WARRIOR NAME WAS STARGLEAM, she was revived by starclan TWICE. she was revived to give out the ten, oh no sorry, 11 commandments. she is loved by ashfur, hawkfrost, blackstar and everyone else. she chose her leader name, became leader when firestar was still alive and chose her leader name which may I add while gleamstar is a pretty name, it is her warrior name flipped. she also had a prophecy when she was born. Plus she had kits in a lesbian relationship, lot long after being against gay relationships
not canon - ScarletfallV 8 Comments
Brokenstar huh..Ho9nestly he got his eyes scratched so hard he was blind stop picking on some poor character.
Brokenstar? Really? Enough said! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
A stereotypical(ish) villain, yes. Gary Stu, no. - SnowyOwlV 14 Comments
People! Stop posting non-canonical cats! This is for the original series! - Juniper
Cute name, but - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Its not exist
LOL This warrior does not even exist I mean I'm 100 precent sure most cats don't even know what IS a unicorn... - GingerboboV 11 Comments
I do hate her but, shes not a Mary-Sue. - DerpaHerpaMerpa
Snowfur's not exactly a Mary Sue; She's just a bit... Annoying.
For one thing, she did have flaws! She loved Thistleclaw for Starclan's sake. That, though, doesn't make her a Mary Sue. Need I remind you, a Mary Sue is a character that is PERFECT! Snowfur isn't perfect.
However, I do agree that she was a bit unpleasant. I remeber one scene where Bluefur was trying to explain to her sister about the prophecy Goosefeather gave her. What does Snowfur do?
"Just ignore him..." she says
Then she ignores Bluefur's concern.
"I think Thistleclaw will be a great father! " she says, comepletly ignoring an important prophecy her sister is trying to explain to her!
Honestly, she was just too busy mooning over Thistleclaw...
Snowfur, SNOWFUR! How dare you! Just look at the pic and you won't need any more input! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
There is no way she was a mary sue! Sure, she came to terms with her mother's death a lot faster then Bluestar: but she isn't perfect. Honestly, my only guess for why she is here is either because people favored Bluestar or because some just didn't like her mate (Thistleclaw.) I suppose her death was the reason he turned evil, creating an evil Tigerstar: who beat up Tiny and then invited bigger Tiny (Scourge) to come attack the clans. He also made almost every cat in the forest pregnant, resulting in half-rogue kits (one of which messed stuff up in the lake territory).. so yeah, her love with Thistleclaw did pretty much screw the four clans over, but where would the story be without it?V 24 Comments
No. Ivypool had her share of flaws, too. She's honestly one of my favorite warrior cats. She risked her life in THE DARK FOREST and she kept her feelings hidden. Sure, she was a bit nasty sometimes but she turned out a hero. She was so brave! She even killed a cat to remain loyal to thunderclan so that the dark forest thought she was loyal to them! She was creeped out to the bone, yet she still went into the dark forest! Is this enough?
IVYPOOL IS ONE OF THE BEST CATS!
I didn't like her at first. I thought she was being mean to Dovewing. Dovewing too. OKAY HOLD UP. Dovewing had a lot a of trouble too. family troubles and mate troubles. So BOTH OF THEM ARE NOT MARY SUES!
Ivypool and Dovewing have grown to be the best. So YEAH."
Uh... you mean Dovewing right? Ivypool spied on cat hell from her dreams. She was a hero. She was terrified by the Dark Forest cats but still continued spying for her Clan. She was loyal, and an overall good cat. (by the way, I totally ship her and Blossomfall. Ivy x Blossom is great.)
This list is flawed and stupid Ivypool is the BEST so whoever wrote this CHECK YOUR FACTS!
Yeah, she is NOTV 22 Comments
I like Ashfur and all but, I'm not gonna disagree! He was so unkind to Squirrelflight after they fell out of love, he tried to kill not just the leader, but three helpless kits and he got a ticket on the hogwarts expr-oops, wrong book- Starclan express (from platform 9 and 3 quarters :P) because he "Loved too much."
And to that one person, your right! Mapleshade (my favorite warrior, by the way) did the same thing and went to the dark forest! It just enrages me when I break it down and focus on each little part because, at the end of the day, total Gary Stu! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
I truly don't get why people sympathize with this character. He acted like a huge jerk to Squirrelflight after their "breakup", he tried to kill his leader and three kits, and after all that, he gets to go to Starclan because he just "loved too much". Do you want to know who did basically the same thing as him and went to the Dark Forest/Place of no Stars? Mapleshade. If another cat from the same clan can do the same (the only difference is not successfully killing any cats) and go to Starclan because "oh he is so misunderstood and in pain and he loved too much", then that is a perfect sign of a Gary Stu cat.
Unfortunately, as much as I like Ashfur I have to agree. I think Yellowfang was a bit demented when she admitted Ashfur to StarClan. So what if he "loved too much? " He tried to kill four cats, including two of the prophecy cats and his Clan leader! He deserves to go to the Dark Forest!
And honestly, it would be a whole lot more interesting if he went to the Dark Forest. - Scarletfall
How come ash fur got into star clan when thistle claw didn't. At least thistle claw didn't try to kill loads of cats then complain he loved too muchV 16 Comments
No, Dovewing is a sue, Bluestar is a broken child with a sweet heart. I love her so much!
How is she a Mary Stu...
What? She went insane, died saving fire heart and she gave up her kits! She isn't a Mary Sue! Maybe like 10% BUT OTHERWISE NO! Mary Sues are totally perfect with no flaws. Bluestar loses her mind, doesn't cope well with grief and at times can be arrogant
Anyone who thinks Bluestar or yellow fang should be in this list, let alone before daisy,
GO AWAY IN A HOLE AND NEVER COME OUT! This must be a mistake daisy is total Mary but Bluestar and yellowfang are my favorite characters so this must be a mistake
Nope I don't get this...
HA HA Haha...
(By the way I'm just gonna stael this a use it as a code name for Jessy) - Murphypaw
*sigh* - sydneyhelget
I can see why you may think that - ILuv2ReadAndWrite
i wonder why - SnowyOwl
Wagontiger is pretty nice in the books to be honest, I don't know why he's on here.
Everybody vote this we need to get it to the top of the list for all to see
Wagontiger is best boi how dare you put him on this list!?! Go to the calm down corner. -frostfrost and friends
What the frick... Wagontiger... of all the fake names!V 5 Comments
How? Briarlight had a horrible life, although not really to horrible. She thinks as herself as useless all the time here's an example.
Jayfeather: "So no appetite, eh? "
Briarlight: "What? "
Jayfeather: "You might be able to fool Millie, but not me. Do you really think it's fair to make her worry just because you've gotten it into your head that you don't deserve food because you can't hunt? "
Briarlight: "What are you talking about? "
Jayfeather: "I know you think you're being fair. But it's not that simple."
She's starving herself because she feels like she's useless. She's almost the opposite (I'm saying almost because she has some good traits to like every character) of perfect to she's self concision,nervous, and miserable? Sound overpowered and perfect to you? - Dawnlight
...PLEASEE! Briarlight is the opposite of a Mary Sue. The Non-sue or something. Could somebody please tell me how getting squished by a falling tree, not being able to walk again and still not losing hope is being a Mary Sue. CAN I GET AN AMEN? - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
OKAY> I was so sad when she died. I can't imagine life with out my HAPPY Briarlight. Put Blossomfall on this, or a whiny list. Not Mary Sue.
Mary Sue. And all Briarlight haters here- The Rise Of BriarlightHaterClan begins!V 4 Comments
Ewww I haaattteee hawkfrost
Despite for being evil he is every boy in school I used to like. - Murphypaw
Erm, not at all! Hawkfrost (despite being evil) still was not a Gary Stu! Plus, whatever drove him evil (sorry, I haven't finished that series yet) must have been bad, real bad! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
He was a really disappointing villain but not a Gary stu
He's not a gary stu.. He was manipulated by his own father.V 2 Comments
What the *. Why is Mosskit on here, she is my favorite Warrior cat I just have no words to describe my rage right now. Take this off NOW.
What the fuuu-- she doesn't even survive for longer than a month - Juniper
Scarletfall's right, along with about 100% of you! Did you even read the books? - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Mosskit is DEAD and was NEVER alive! How does this make her one? - SilentShadowV 10 Comments
Stop putting fake names. It's making me mad. - DerpaHerpaMerpa
WHO? - sydneyhelget
Most powerful warrior ever (though his/she's not real) - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Wow a lot of fans are kinda mouse brained huh, What da heck Starstarstar? - GingerboboV 8 Comments
Urm, sorry but no! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Mates: Turtle Tail (Formerly), Slate
Sons: White Tail, Black Ear
Daughter: Silver Stripe
Mother: Quiet Rain
Brothers: Clear Sky
Sister: Fluttering Bird
Clan: Shadow Clan (Formerly), Wind Clan - CreamstripeOfButterClan
Ok, I think Gray Wing is such a amazing cat. So he is not a Gary stu BUT a Mary sue - Gingerbobo
WHAT NO - ScarletfallV 5 Comments
I HAVE HAD ENOUGH! THIS LIST IS PURE SPITE! Yellowfang gave up her kit, her clan and (eventually) her life! She gave Firestar the life of compassion, which makes sense because she's a nice cat! Three best traits of Yellowfang:
3. (This is so me! :P) Rebel! 1
Sorry but if you want to discuss why she's a Mary Sue, I'll be waiting! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
I am clickin out now. - sydneyhelget
Since when is Yellowfang anything even remotely resembling a Mary Sue? - Scarletfall
I want to ban whoever thinks she should be here.V 1 Comment
She is a Mary Sue because when she talked to firestar, if he said anything about another cat she would storm off and not talk to him until he BEGGED for forgiveness - sydneyhelget
Sandstorm? Why her! She ain't no Mary sue! She was kind to Fireheart, a brave fighter and had a noble death during Alderpaw/heart's quest! your Mary sue? I think NOT! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Someone was a Spottedleaf x Firestar shipper or something shipper and they decided to post Sandstorm.. Look.. Sand x Fire is staying, why?
Cinder x Fire:
Sandstorm never stole Fireheart away, so shut it down please. Firestar never noticed, not because he was a jerk, but because he saw Cinder as a sister, their relationship was totally platonic. He felt bad when Cinderpelt got ran over not because he loved her, but because he was her mentor, and was supposed to be watching over her.
Spotted x Fire:
Fire had lust for Spotted, they barely talked, on about 3 times before Spotted got killed by Clawface. I know they kinda loved each other.. But after Firestar met Sandstorm and fell in love, he was more mature and realized that their love wasn't real, and Spottedleaf had to realize that in Starclan. Spottedleaf's acceptance was when she saved Sandstorm from Mapleshade by sacrificing herself. I think it was her last gift to Firestar once and for all, and then she ...more
To that one person, I don't think that Cinderpelt really loved Firestar that way...All the authors said was that she loved him, but that doesn't really mean lust, either. I don't think that a 6 month old kitten could be old enough to feel that way,(they do feel emotions, maybe not the same as humans, but...) even though they can be force-bred.(which, of course, isn't happening.) HOWEVER, Sandstorm gets defeated, has flaws, and GAVE BIRTH TO LEAFPOOL, the worst character in that thing!V 10 Comments
Unless we're talking about Moonflower, then it's not canon. - IcetailofWishClan
huh - Scarletfall
I don't think this is canon.
It's not canon.
Yellowfang's unbelievable grandmother
Moving on with life is such a terrible crime, clearly. It was definitely better for Berrynose to permanently live in the past, alone and sad, instead of being with Poppyfrost. Oh, yes. I see your logic. - SnowyOwl
Oh hey, would you look at that! My sister died! Oh well, I'mma take her mans now! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
'Oh, no! My sister is dead well I'mma steal her mate! What?! He still loves her?! DISGRACE! Now I'mma go to the moonpool and let Breezepelt kill me cause he has feelings for a cat he won't see in another billion moons just like basically EVERY OTHER CAT WHO HAS A NEW MATE AFTER THERE FIRST ONE DOES! (Graystripe, Crowfeather, Tallstar's mother, Firestar...)' MARY-SUE FOR YOU?
Heh, my sister died so now I can take her husband... oh hi Berrynose let's have kits!
He is the opposite of a mary sue. He's a selfish, horrible monster who let his kits drown and blamed his mate so he could stay popular in his clan. - Juniper
I'm not really sure what to think about this one! Anyway, whatever you thought, Mapleshade could do better! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Oh and, by doing a bit of math (SKRA), I've figured out he was LITERALLY CHEATING on Mapleshade and Reedshine, having two mates at once! - Juniper
He's not a marry sue...V 3 Comments
What do you mean she is the best character - Juniper
She's supposed to be a sue, if you're talking about Starkit from Starkit's Prophecy. It was a joke story/troll story. She's still full on sue, though.
not canon - Scarletfall
She was not a Mary Sue! She fought in the Battle Of The Stars even though she was a kit and almost died. But she saved her brother, Nightkit, and her sister, Moonkit, along with countless warriors (Emberstone much? ) but she was so close to dieing. Good on you Rainstar for saving her. Easily my favorite book and an adorable name!
I hope you know I'm just kidding, but that is such a good idea for a book! Should we team up and right a book?
Edit: This was before I read Starkit’s prophecy! Total Mary Sue!! And the eleventh commandment: No being gay Me:.....i’m A sinner!!! Dark forest here I come!! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Very evil, she killed Spottedleaf and every cat except Bluestar who Crookedstar loved at all. - Willowfur
Evil, but not a total Mary-sue, besides being mates with Appledusk from RiverClan. He left her anyway.
I'm not just saying this because she's my favorite warrior (she is) but No! No,no,no,no,no honey! Just, just no!
Mapleshade, watched her own three kit drown in front of her eyes and then her mate wasn't bothered to save them (she could do better than appledusk, anyway) and killed 3 kits. Like, opposite of a sue!
#MAPLESHADEISTHEBESTWARRIORWHOEVERLIVED! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Please tell me I’m seeing things! I’m not? ok, I want a private chat with whoever put this on here! Like, seriously. I mean, she did kill some cats like Appledusk, Ravenwing, I think she killed Frecklewish, (why not have gone for Reedshine while your at it! I hate reedshine! ) But, she was distraught and hallucinating. Cut her some slack, guys - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Her name sounds like a Mary Sue but she's anything but. It wasn't her choice to be called Princess just like it wasn't my cats choice to be called Harry, but names don't define a person. My name is OceanBreeze, but you don't just gotta judge that I like the ocean. I do but still. My actual name is foreign (actually it's Irish) but like, don't just assume that makes me Irish. I am but still! I could write a whole book on why you shouldn't go judging people on their names but in stead I'm gonna go raid the money jar, because if I had a dollar for every time I seen a cat that doesn't deserve to be on this list I would practically own the warrior's series by now! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
She appears all of six times in the book. SIX TIMES. And none of the encounters were all that long. How are we supposed to know enough about her to decide this or not? - Scarletfall
We don't know that much about Princess to know her overall traits. Along with that we got very little about her personality to know whether or not but for now I say no to the whole Mary Sue thing!
So what if her name is Princess. Her name doesn't reflect any of her traits. She didn't even get enough book time to show if she was a Sue at all.V 11 Comments
It reminds me of that saying "it's raining dogs and cats" except with goats! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
He's not. He's not. And yes, his name is funny, everyone get over it please. - Scarletfall
This name is so funny all I think of when I hear his name is a bunch of goats in a hurricane!
Billystorm... for Starclans sake change your name... please... the poor goatsV 6 Comments
Mate: Gorse Fur
Daughters: Morning Whisker, Moth Flight
Sons: Ember Fur, Dust Muzzle
Clan: Wind Clan - CreamstripeOfButterClan
Even though Wind Runner is a bit overpowered compared to other cats, she isn't a total Mary Sue, because she goes through real hardships that aren't handled too unrealistically, and she does have obvious character flaws that impact the storyline.
She skilled. That makes her a Sue? She has a LOT of character flaws. She's stubborn, ugly, irritable... There's no way she's a Sue.
She is always right and is an amazing hunter and fighter. Even her daughter is specialV 3 Comments
Now, I haven't finished Dawn Of The Clan's yet, but Clear Sky, to me, doesn't seem like a Gary Stu. He might just be on this list because of hate, or because people don't like him, but to be honest, Clear Sky just doesn't seem like a Gary Stu. However, as I said before, I haven't finished Dawn Of The Clans yet, so I'll have to wait and see what happens! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Mates: Bright Stream (Formerly), Storm (Formerly), Star Flower
Sons: Thunder, Tiny Branch
Daughters: Flower Foot, Dew Petal
Mother: Quiet Rain
Brothers: Grey Wing, Jagged Peak
Sister: Fluttering Bird
Clan: Sky Clan - CreamstripeOfButterClan
How in the world would anyone ever think that this guy is a Mary Sue? - Scarletfall
Honestly, I'm pretty sure the only reason he is here is because people don't like him. Which is understandable, Clear Sky is shown to be a villain in most of the Dawn of the Clans books. But he is DEFINITELY not a perfect or idealized character. I mean, hello? He lost his first love and his unborn kits, had to go on to take charge of a whole new group of cats and become one of the most hated cats in the forest, find another mate only to have her run off to twolegplace with his unborn kits and die: leaving only one survivor, then he ruins his chances of ever being a father to his only son by making a grief-driven decision to push him away. The list goes on, I mean honestly: who would want his life?V 4 Comments
Except for abandoning her kit, she's a total sue! Toms pad after her everywhere, she's a fierce warrior, and she created to super successful kits, even if she didn't want one of them. - Swiftdawn
She is nt perfect, but she is a sue
She's actually the exact opposite. She abandoned one of her own kits. So she's not a Sue. - IcetailofWishClan
#NOT - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
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