Biggest Mary Sues of the Warrior Cat UniverseI'm sure we've all thought at least one character in the Warriors universe was a Mary Sue. In case you don't know, a Mary Sue (or Gary Stu, for male characters) is a character in the story that angsts about everything, is utterly perfect, and imbalanced compared to ther other characters. If you would like a more in-depth explanation, Google it.
Now, a Mary Sue (or heck, even Kitty Sue) is NOT just a character you don't like. Don't put characters up here unless you truly think they're unbalanced and either too generic/predictable or too overpowered. OCs will not be allowed. Feel free to put in plenty of cats, but I wouldn't recommend trying with the less well-known ones (such as cats in Codes of the Clans), as those are likely to just collect dust at the bottom of the list. Finally, please don't vote on a cat just because you think they shouldn't be called a Mary Sue. I may be new to this website and all, but I know that upvoting your favorite character to be recognized as an unbalanced one wouldn't be among the best of ideas.
Now, let the Listing Games begin, and may the odds be ever in the favor of your submitted cat!
The Top Ten
Dovewing is just very annoying in my opinion and she is nothing like her sister, though it breaks my heart because her and Ivypool would've been the best twins ever! And Dovewing just feels like a replacement of Hollyleaf, it didn't seem fair. Out of the blue she had these super-natural seeing powers that she probably would've told someone about before and not to mention Tigerheart and Dovewing are just an annoying couple. It doesn't seem right, not just because their both from another clan cause I have nothing against that, it's just, it doesn't seem to fit. And when she broke up with Tigerheart and went to Bumblestripe my mind went, UGH! Because Bumblestripe could do way better than her, I don't ship Dovewing with anyone and she's just an annoying character in general, she is a total mary-sue and I have no idea why people favor her.
The first book back seemed all too sudden. Lion blaze and Jay feather found their replacements without even trying. Dove wing felt too much like a perfect version of holly leaf which I didn't like too much. The first book she even went on a journey to save the clans and she is seen like such a hero throughout the series but whines too much on how her life it's fair. "Oh it's not fair two cats love me"! She always whines. "My life is so unfair I'm so important". She didn't say this but it's exactly what she is saying overall. I think the Erin's got caught up in how much they love dove wing and began to write only positive things and when she does make mistake it's because she is worrying about someone else
Dovewing has three toms padding after her and she is part of a prophecy that says she will save the clans!
All through OOtS all she did was worry about her precious Tigerheart and be absolutely horrible to poor Bumblestripe. During this her sister is risking her life every night against the greatest villains in the entire series.
Although Dovewing has many, many big flaws, the Erins write it in such a way to make Dovewing simply seem like a poor, confused, little she-cat with too much pressure on her!
A mary sue means she's perfect. No, she's an annoying whiny brat who whines more than my little sister. I imagine that she never gets a mate ever even though Bumbledonkey and Tigerheart like her. She is too whiny. "Ehhh I don't want powers wahh I'm acting like a lit eeehhh! " then she screeches, screams and whines about how much she WANTS her powers back! "Ehhh noo why did I go to stoneteller wah ehh" and she just lashed at Envypool for apparently breaking the code. She left ThunderClan for some ugly cat! And she WHINED SOME MORE! - PuppytartV 72 Comments
Alright. Spottedleaf, you are going DOWN- no, Firestar, you can't stop me. I have the Bill of Rights. *waves in his face* Anyway, here is my list of sins that Spottedleaf has:
First: It was love at first sight. Love at first sight is almost never good. Because it's about LOOKS. He probably smelled her sweet scent (catmint. Firepaw didn't know what catmint was back then. She smelled of catmint.), saw her perfect coat (cats who care about what they look like...*shudder*), and saw her perfect green eyes (Sandstorm has green eyes too...), and thought *SHE'S SO HOT AND I'M GONNA MARRY HER. Bo-ring!
Second: She's. Way. Too. Old. Like, how?! Is an explanation needed for this?! Nah...
Third: She kept trying to steal Firestar away from Sandstorm! Unfair! She should be ashamed of herself! Trying to get Firestar to love a stupid dead cat instead of a living cat who's much more disciplined than her and is overall, just better! At least Sandstorm got to know ...more
That was beautiful! Spottedleaf was as useless as a rock. Even the rock has more personality than her. Even Sandstorm and Bluestar are better than her! - MLPFan
I'm just throwing a starter up here. Spottedleaf is a blatant Sue, not only because she's oh-so-sweet and beautiful and young, but she manages to fall in a forbidden relationship with a KITTYPET. In my opinion, a higher-ranking cat shouldn't be as soft on OutClanners, especially in the time when such an idea is so new and strange. Have you seen her do one bad thing? I think not. Her coat is literally IMPOSSIBLE for any cat in the real world to have, much less a full-blooded feral, and she cannot always have a sweet scent all around her.
Spottedleaf is just too "perfect." She has always so beautiful tortoiseshell fur, have a sweet scent, is small and lithe and so kind and pretty. She fell in love with a kittypet, who is 3,5 years younger than her. Just like EVERYBODY loves her UGH.. Well, she wasn't a villain or something like that but SO Mary Sue. I like Tigerstar much better than her. It was almost (or it was) like party when she died, especially when she died second time; she is the most boring cat I ever read (sorry for peoples who like her, that is just what I think about her
Pedophilic sue - MLPFanV 59 Comments
Why is he apart of every prophecy? The whole five cats from each clan thing, he wasn't apart of. Blood will spill Blood, that was an OMEN, it didn't really make anything bigger. Even the power of three, it was HIS kin. I liked Firestar, but he should've just been the greatly remembered leader if not a little less. He did a lot of things, so he had his spotlight. Jayfeather, Lionblaze, and Hollyleaf should've just had the spotlight. Then Dovewing replaces Hollyleaf, and above all, his final act of heroism took the place of someone like Ivypool or (FINALLY) Hollyleaf.
His character was stretched too much. He should've just been the cat to face Tigerstar, like he sorta hoped in Darkest Hour.
Anyone noticed that this cat almost ALWAYS made the best decisions for his clan after the first series? He led the attack on BloodClan, too. He was also in like, TWO major prophecies, one being even older than the clans. Firestar's personality seemed to be calm, peaceful, respective, brave, loyal... Totally a Gary Stu
Okay, I am on The Power of Three, but what the fridge is wrong with Firestar? I remember him as a nice, forgiving cat from The Prophecies Begin... Now he's a weirdo. I mean, I can't even explain him! I don't think he's a Gary stu and I don't hate him for killing Stupid Scourge but the fact that they HINTED that he favored Leafpool for having the prefix "-Leaf" like Spottedleaf is bad. Also, there's proof because she broke THREE codes and was stripped off of medicine cat duty then put back again! Poor Mapleshade. Also, the fact that her punishment as an apprentice was going to the WindClan patrol with the cats. Really? He used to be my role model.
Firestar should be first. He relates to the readers and made peace throughout the books, he has no flaws. He showed the clans that a kittypet can be a warrior, deputy, and leader, he has saved many cats lives and saved the forest. He is by far better than Dovewing and Spottedleaf.V 49 Comments
Millie isn't a sue in the slightest. She looked nothing like Silverstream, and had to work so hard to get into Thunderclan with Graystripe. He only chose her because Graystripe truely loved her like he did Silverstream. She helped Graystripe, yet didn't always succeed. She was hurt, and I think blinded by getting hit with briars or brambles before arriving in the loner barn with those who helped her and such. Plus, Millie was the one to stand up to the dogs, and knew how to deal with them, but she also has some flaws to pull her weight with her good traits. In my opinion, Graystripe had many reasons to fall in love with her. Millie saved his life on multiple occasions, encouraged him, helped him, and made sure he kept his sanity. She was kind, but also clumsy, and couldn't exactly get hunting or fighting on the first try. Not at all. - Diistortions
I don't believe Millie is a total Sue. After all, not just any cat could bring Graystripe back to the clans in one piece! And, although this might just be me, I admire her for having the courage to face Thunderclan and declare she was going to keep her kittypet name. Usually, I dislike cats that deny a proper clan name upon joining a clan: like Daisy. The only thing I really dislike about Millie is her as a mother. She was fantastic until she had kits, then I started to dislike her a bit. She was a VERY protective mother, which I can respect in most characters, but Millie took it a bit far. I suppose what I really mean is her babying Briarlight, I mean I understand it's horrible what happened to her daughter: but she took it way too far. Instead of accepting that terrible things can happen to warriors, and praising her daughters bravery in going back to try and save an elder, she made things worse for all her kits. Millie first treated Briarlight like she was a poor helpless kit, ...more
I forget who said this, but I was reading this one Deviantart Journal, and someone said that because Millie looks so much like Silverstream Graystripe chose her for a replacement. But, I'm confused- Millie is never perfect in the slightest way, from her favoritism to her name. Why would she be on here? She should really be on Worst Mothers.
To be honest I hated Millie to graystripe she was just second best. She is annoying and kinda under developed. Even in the manga. I just thing graystripe deserves better than a house cat. I admit she gave up a lot to join thunderclan but she is just a second boulder really. She bored me to death.V 24 Comments
I'm not a massive fan of leaf pool but I wouldn't consider her as a sue. She isn't the prettiest cat ever (not saying she's ugly just normal looking). Like all medicine cats she is close to star clan just like spotted leaf yellow wing cinder pelt and Jay feather. She has drama and gets upset about cats dying and is very soft hearted not in a good way though. She had one Tom padding after her which was crow but he wasn't exactly madly in love with her. He was just thinking about feather tail and basically compared loads of stuff to her which is why I think that. Leaf pool didn't adapt to being a warrior too well to be honest and the only thing I can really say which makes her special is the fact she found moon stone and has the kits from the power of three and her father is clan leader which isn't really her it's just her Mary Sue kin
Hmm...75% Sue. She is pretty, peaceful, falls in love easily, (with someone you would never think had mutual feelings.) blames herself for the death of my favorite character after going on about "true love," (which isn't really a red flag for Sues, but it's a common side trait, with Mary Sues finding their one and only...) AAAND she gives birth to the three power kits, (which were painful to read about...) and is evidently slightly intelligent for being a med. Did I miss anything? Oh, yes! When she gets kidnapped, she easily knows exactly what to do even though she hardly knows humans at all. No sense of violence, so she is an innocent, pretty, smart, gives birth to powerful beings...Nevermind. Just-just call her a Sue!
Ah, person who can't spell, punctuate, or anything you should be able to do on a normal basis, she couldn't control her father and mother, but she COULD control her kits. She could have killed her kits or given them away if she didn't want them. She had forbidden love, (a common thing in Sue Stories) special snowflake kits, and just GAVE UP HER ROLE AS A MEDICINE CAT. Crowfeather should have been with Feathertail.
Leafpool is an Overused Sue, she does everything special while Cinderpelt is left in the dust. She has kits with Crowfeather and Firestar doesn't care. She puts her love above her duties and yet is still a worthy med cat. Also, she discovered Moonpool. Couldn't have Cinderpelt done that, oh wait no because "She's Special" *Courtney
ProjectSNT voice.* Does anyone notice that Cinderpelt got barely any prophecies, instead they went to her or her Gary Stu father Firestar. She is useless and is more trouble than she is worth yet she is loved by her clan.
Why is he a Mary Sue? He raided a clan that had been his friends (worst betrayal ever) and because of that put his clan in a battle with a no known reason and if I'm not wrong let his cats trespass into another clans territory! Would you call that a Mary Sue?
One whisker was an amazing cat but when he became leader, I think being " less powerful " and stress of being leader kinda went to his brain. But I don't think of him as a Gary Stu.
Not exactly a Mary Sue, but very, very annoying.
...eh.V 10 Comments
Uh... That's his power. Being invincible. Blame the Erins for giving him the power, not making him a bad character. I mean, sometimes he was a bit bland, but he never beat a fox as kit. At least I didn't read that. He and Hollyleaf were saved by Thornclaw's patrol, not by themselves. And Jayfeather almost died. He always had to deal with it, Hollyleaf "died", Cinderheart had trouble accepting his power, I mean... He's not a Gary-Stu.
Here ladies and gentlemen is the BIGGEST Mary Sue in Warriors, Lionblaze! He is literally invincible! When he was just a kit he bet a fox. A fox! He's just a kit and he a fox that's bigger than him and could kill him easily! Thank you Warriors you have won an award for making a canon sue. He can win any fight but lost only once because he wanted to show Cinderheart he could control his powers. He even bet Tigerstar like What the heck! He was still young too and look at Tigerstar. Tigerstar is a senior warrior who is really strong and is still training in Dark Forest. Now he's another reason he's a sue, almost everyone loves him expect for a few. Cinderheart and Heathertail like him! I absolute hate him. I hope they make another book in Warriors where he actually loses a battle not on purpose either.
This is Lionblaze. His power is invincibility. He is one of the only three cats in the entire warriors world EVER who has powers. He can never die in battle. Two she-cats love him. He is the descendant of another Mary Sue, Firestar. He defeated a fox when he was just a kit. He has shimmering beautiful lovely golden fur that sparkles in the sunlight. And the books are constantly recalling how he is a tall, handsome, muscular cat. *COUGH COUGH MARY SUE COUGH COUGH*
Jesus, I thought this was Warriors, not Superman.V 20 Comments
Yeah, no, total Mary Sue. Her "loyalty" is all over the place, and she plays with the emotions with pretty much all the toms ever. I mean, really? And she puts on the water-works when her father is murdered, but then becomes mates with one of the cats who wanted him dead? I want to trust her now that she is Clear Sky's loving mate, but I can't: she's always seemed just naturally evil. She's manipulative, secretive, and treats toms like objects.
She's constantly described as beautiful and stunning, etc, and she attracts the attention of THREE tomcats (if you count Slash, which was implied). Her personality changes according to the plot. In one scene, she's kind and supportive. In another, she'll be a badass fighting machine. One scene later she's a damsel in distress. She is also the center of a creepy love triangle. (Between the dad or his kid, really? ) Just, ugh. The Erins tried too hard this time.
All she does is stand around and look pretty, and everyone thinks she's amazing for it! I've only read up through 'Blazing Star', but even in that one she was annoying. I dare you to name one useful thing she ever did that didn't have some sort of personal benefit, or one time she was criticized by one of the good guys. It just doesn't happen.
Worst cat ever besides dovewing,jayfeather and firestarV 14 Comments
I don't even get how she would be a mary sue. She didn't get everything she wanted.
She is flawed in being inpatient and stubborn when she doesn't get what she wants and I know she's beautiful but it doesn't make her a Mary Sue so much as a cat who, as everyone has, flaws and it's not to mention that she didn't mean to ash fur that she didn't love him it's just you can't love someone because they like you and are your friend so she. Is. Not. A. Mary. Sue!
I don't get how she isn't. She is a beautiful fiery she cat with skills and is the clan leaders daughter. She has toms padding after her and then ends up being the deputy and has kits with the clan leader. There was one part where she wasn't a sue. It was about the kits but everything worked out in the end and even bramble claw apologised for getting upset over the fact his kits weren't actually his
0,o how?V 25 Comments
Mary sue. Everyone loves her because she lost an eye. She overreacted too, cinderpelt's leg looked horrid, but did she complain? Nope. Crookedstar's mother abandoned him because of his looks, but he learned to cope with it on his own. Brightheart needed Cloudtail to tell her she was pretty. Whats worse, she's super overrated JUST BECAUSE SHE LOST AN EYE.
How is she a Mary Sue? She isn't pretty because her face got ripped apart. You would complain if this happened to you. She only had one tom that liked her and Cloudtail cheated on her!
I get it she's got an injury. So did crookedstar. Brightheart complained about not being beautiful, and didn't stop until Cloudtail became mates with her. Crookedstar's ' mom hated him. I only started liking Brightheart when she forgot about her injury
She whines about her looks and need Cloudtail to tell her that she's pretty. Even with her eye missing she still acts like a normal cat.V 7 Comments
Why would you put a cat that is only mentioned a little. We don't really know her. - Songwind
I prefer Cinderheart over Cinderpelt.
Before you hate me, I want to say that I have my opinions and you have yours.
How would you feel if you were only a second chance for another cat who didn't live a fair life? Would you feel all happy? No! Cinderheart has her flaws as well. Nobody calls Cinderpelt a mary sue? She didn't put a paw wrong either! I don't hate Cinderpelt, but when somebody calls Cinderheart a Mary sue, I don't get that. This is my opinion, so there's little reason to bash me for this. Thank you and good night. - Mewbosses
I STRONGLY dislike (hate) Cinderheart SUCH a drama queen!
Cinderheart NEVER stopped whining "Oh, just because your stronger than me I have to be a drama queen and cry but really I'm just making this whole relationship a big mess! " And so this makes Lionblaze feel terrible,wishes he never had his powers, after the last hope Cinderheart:"Oh Lionblaze your so brave! I love you now in Bramblestar's Storm I'm going to have your kits! "
I perfer CinderPELT
Cinderpelt's so much better.V 5 Comments
He's a cliche emo teenager. He always complains about how Leafpool and Crowfeather are his parents, and how he's blind. He's got blue eyes, one of the worst things you can do to a cat unless it's common in their breed. A siamese would have blue eyes, but Jayfeather is a silver tabby mix if I remember correctly. NO SIAMESE!
Like the previous post states, he is constantly challenged by the narrative of the story. He's clumsy and a grump, constantly snappy and has a tragic backstory. His mother didn't want him, and his father is kind of a prick in my opinion. Almost 99% of the time he is completely emo and can never be happy. The only time he ever screwed up is when he through a STICK out of all things into the lake and almost drown Firestar. Wow. You wanted him to cry and whine and mourn after Flametail's death? NOPE! To emo to have feelings like that! Even though Jayfeather liked Flametail as in friendship, he just can't mourn over someone from SHADOWCLAN of all things. Plus, he ...more - Diistortions
Jayfeather is always challenged by the narrative, and that's the true definition of "Mary-Sue" or "Gary-Stu". What, did you want Jayfeather to weep for days when Flametail died, and be traumatized? He has Clanmates to treat, you know, he couldn't grieve about ShadowClan's medicine cat forever. He plenty of times falls/trips/walks into things, like in Sunrise when he walked into the brambles, Eclipse he got scratched by a thorn, and more. He's snappy and moody, and that's not being perfect. How would you feel if you were blind and all you had was a blind elder also to share feelings with? I mean, he was annoying sometimes, but still, but his blindness really is tragic, and he never had a "perfect life".
I don't know why everyone is either obsessed with Jayfeather or thinks he's a Gary Stu. He's so grumpy all the time, and he even doesn't appreciate his awesome powers as much as he should, but he doesn't think of them as a curse. Jayfeather is pretty much an anti-sue, minus the awesome powers. Jayfeather isn't really the nicest to be around, I don't know why there's an overwhelming amount of fan art about him. Even though I do like the ones about him and his stick.
Sorry peeps, don't care if I get hate for this but I like Jayfeather. - SongwindV 27 Comments
If you don't know who Jessy is, she's the "brave, bold, sparkling kittypet" from Bramblestar's Storm. Mary-sue senses tingling. Every /single cat/ had talked about what a "perfect Clan cat" she was. She's a natural hunter, picks up fighting super quickly, worms her way into Thunder Clan with ease. What made it even worse was the fact that she was "always right." /Always/? Really? She was very unlike Minty, Daisy, /or/ Frankie (though Daisy joined much much earlier). They were having difficulty accepting the new life while at the same time, trying to adapt to it, but Jessy just suddenly got used to everything on the first try. Even worse, apparently all her ideas were the best. Bramblestar agreed on /all/ of her ideas. Her personality had remained static, intrusive, rude, perfect, and /annoying/.
I personally hate her. And not just because she stole Bramblestar. Look at her. Just look! She is an Outclanner who somehow wormed into his heart and stayed there. I would've thought she'd be a bit of an outsider but no, everyone loves her, like Dovewing. She always comes up with the ideas, and is always 'the perfect warrior'. Just no. Jessy deserves to be number 2!
Even though I kinda liked Jessy, I'll have to admit she is totally a Sue. She always had these brilliant ideas, everyone liked her, she was a fantastic fighter and hunter, and she didn't have any flaws that I can remember.
Ugh, I hate this little tom snatching, snooping, OTT perfect kittypet, - SongwindV 19 Comments
You could say he's a Mary Sue for one reason... Crookedstar got his injury his mother completely ignored his brother and paid attention to him only.
He's to arrogant, but I have sympathy for his messed up kit-hood - Songwind
I don't really like him...and go comment 2!
Oak heart is not a Mary Sue and he's a good cat has a horrible mother (one of my least favourite cats)a wonderful father and brother great clan...and now that I think about it maybe he is...a little bit.V 5 Comments
Well I don't see why she's on this list, she might be annoying but not a Sue. - cassiabez
She's not that bad guys, just a little irrational. - Songwind
EMBERLEAP! You are NOT alone! I like her too!
I am the lone one who actually likes daisy. ~~EmberleapV 1 Comment
He felt loss and grief tearing him up on the inside, like claws attacking his emotions. Loving three she cats doesn't make him a Gary stu, it makes him heartbroken. He never truly loved Nightcloud, anyway. She was his reputation repair-girl after he ran off with Leafpool as an attempt to repatch his reputation and prove himself loyal to his clan. - Ku
How does loving three cats make Crowfeather, Crowfeather of all cats, a Gary-stu?!?
He loved three cats Nightcloud Leafpool and Feathertail.
Okay he might not exactly deserve a spot on this list bu I'll do anything to insult this female dog (u know wut I'm saying)V 6 Comments
Yup, Bramblestar is a Gary-stu. HAHAhaha... This is officially the stupidest list I have ever seen. Squirrelflight was never even described as pretty! He doesn't even have that many friends! Feathertail and Stormfur are gone. Crowfeather's returned to his prickly old self. Ashfur pretty much backstabbed him by working with Hawkfrost, claiming he was not trustworthy, and insisting Leafpool made up a StarClan sign. He wasn't even temporary deputy! Graystripe was officially pronounced dead, they even had a funeral. Brambleclaw was officially deputy. It's like a deputy deciding to retire. If for some reason the deputy wants to be a warrior again, he's not going to be reinstated as deputy.
Bramblestar was tempted to kill his own leader. Gary-stu? NOPE. He was the son of Tigerstar, and had to struggle to prove his loyalty to his own Clan just because of his looks. Gary-stu? NOPE. He and Squirrelflight argued a lot. Gary-stu? For the third time, nope. Even though he knew Tigerstar was ...more
The ONLY reason he became leader was because he was the main character in the second series. I bet if Tigerstar was the main character, he would become leader! (Don't tell him that.)
(Comment Below) I agree with your every word
Haaate this cat beyond words!V 5 Comments
Sure, she was a beautiful, lovely, sleek, charming she-cat, but for one, she died giving birth to her kits, she was in a forbidden relationship, and she stated in code of the clans she only saved Graystripe because she didn't want the river to be poisoned with dead bodies. Go ahead, but she is everything BUT a Mary-sue.
Okay I am sorry but she was kinda a Mary Sue. She had a loving mate and no one fought her. Yes I love her. Just my opinion. 1 amendment I have the right of speech and an opinion. Sorry!
She's a bit Mary Sue. I've been doing this thing where I defend all the cats and give reasons that they're not Sues/Stus, or at least not AWFUL Sues/Stus, but Silverstream wasn't well written enough to merit all the love she gets from the fans. If she got more time and development, then she could likely be one of the best supporting characters that died in one book, but as she is, she's a bit boring to read about. Yes, she has clear flaws and and goes through real hardships, but the way that she's written ignores her flaws, and skims over what could be one of the most interesting conflicts in that book, and THAT is why she is a Sue.
Yeah, Silverstream's a little too perfect if you ask me. MARY-SUE - SongwindV 12 Comments
This is his description:dark coloured Tom with chipped ears loots of scars personality:cruel blood thirsty cat murdered kits banished his medicine cat drove out a whole clan! Does that sound like a Mary Sue to you?
His prefix is literally BROKEN. I don't think this cat was ever a gary stu...
Brokenstar is NOT a Gary Stu in the slightest!
He is not a Mary Sue! But I haate him!V 5 Comments
There is no way she was a mary sue! Sure, she came to terms with her mother's death a lot faster then Bluestar: but she isn't perfect. Honestly, my only guess for why she is here is either because people favored Bluestar or because some just didn't like her mate (Thistleclaw.) I suppose her death was the reason he turned evil, creating an evil Tigerstar: who beat up Tiny and then invited bigger Tiny (Scourge) to come attack the clans. He also made almost every cat in the forest pregnant, resulting in half-rogue kits (one of which messed stuff up in the lake territory).. so yeah, her love with Thistleclaw did pretty much screw the four clans over, but where would the story be without it?
Um, how is she a Mary-Sue? Some people...
I personally LOVE Snowfur's character. She is not a Mary sue in the slightest!
I think everybody on this list are Mary-Sues especially Firestar and DovewingV 16 Comments
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