Biggest Mary Sues of the Warrior Cat UniverseI'm sure we've all thought at least one character in the Warriors universe was a Mary Sue. In case you don't know, a Mary Sue (or Gary Stu, for male characters) is a character in the story that angsts about everything, is utterly perfect, and imbalanced compared to ther other characters. If you would like a more in-depth explanation, Google it.
Now, a Mary Sue (or heck, even Kitty Sue) is NOT just a character you don't like. Don't put characters up here unless you truly think they're unbalanced and either too generic/predictable or too overpowered. OCs will not be allowed. Feel free to put in plenty of cats, but I wouldn't recommend trying with the less well-known ones (such as cats in Codes of the Clans), as those are likely to just collect dust at the bottom of the list. Finally, please don't vote on a cat just because you think they shouldn't be called a Mary Sue. I may be new to this website and all, but I know that upvoting your favorite character to be recognized as an unbalanced one wouldn't be among the best of ideas.
Now, let the Listing Games begin, and may the odds be ever in the favor of your submitted cat!
The Top Ten
Dovewing is just very annoying in my opinion and she is nothing like her sister, though it breaks my heart because her and Ivypool would've been the best twins ever! And Dovewing just feels like a replacement of Hollyleaf, it didn't seem fair. Out of the blue she had these super-natural seeing powers that she probably would've told someone about before and not to mention Tigerheart and Dovewing are just an annoying couple. It doesn't seem right, not just because their both from another clan cause I have nothing against that, it's just, it doesn't seem to fit. And when she broke up with Tigerheart and went to Bumblestripe my mind went, UGH! Because Bumblestripe could do way better than her, I don't ship Dovewing with anyone and she's just an annoying character in general, she is a total mary-sue and I have no idea why people favor her.
Okay FIRST OF ALL Dovewing is NOT a Mary Sue, she just wanted everything to be exactly how she wanted and just because you get a whole novella about how sad you are about losing your powers and you have two toms who would love to be your mate and a caring sister who would do anything for you but you totally flipped her off by following your heart and everyone loves you IT DOES NOT MAKE YOU PERFECT. It just makes your life correct in every way.
The first book back seemed all too sudden. Lion blaze and Jay feather found their replacements without even trying. Dove wing felt too much like a perfect version of holly leaf which I didn't like too much. The first book she even went on a journey to save the clans and she is seen like such a hero throughout the series but whines too much on how her life it's fair. "Oh it's not fair two cats love me"! She always whines. "My life is so unfair I'm so important". She didn't say this but it's exactly what she is saying overall. I think the Erin's got caught up in how much they love dove wing and began to write only positive things and when she does make mistake it's because she is worrying about someone else
I still think she should get back together with166 Comments
Why is he apart of every prophecy? The whole five cats from each clan thing, he wasn't apart of. Blood will spill Blood, that was an OMEN, it didn't really make anything bigger. Even the power of three, it was HIS kin. I liked Firestar, but he should've just been the greatly remembered leader if not a little less. He did a lot of things, so he had his spotlight. Jayfeather, Lionblaze, and Hollyleaf should've just had the spotlight. Then Dovewing replaces Hollyleaf, and above all, his final act of heroism took the place of someone like Ivypool or (FINALLY) Hollyleaf.
His character was stretched too much. He should've just been the cat to face Tigerstar, like he sorta hoped in Darkest Hour.
Dovewing wasn't perfect but Firestar definitely was
He is boring and Scourge should of killed him so that he wasn't the repeated hero
Firestar does nothing wrong and is part of every prophecy and EVERYBODY loves him. He already had his part in the first series, and other cats need a spotlight to, other than him.
He was the main character but got old okay he saved everyone his time is done as much as I like him move on120 Comments
Alright. Spottedleaf, you are going DOWN- no, Firestar, you can't stop me. I have the Bill of Rights. *waves in his face* Anyway, here is my list of sins that Spottedleaf has:
First: It was love at first sight. Love at first sight is almost never good. Because it's about LOOKS. He probably smelled her sweet scent (catmint. Firepaw didn't know what catmint was back then. She smelled of catmint.), saw her perfect coat (cats who care about what they look like...*shudder*), and saw her perfect green eyes (Sandstorm has green eyes too...), and thought *SHE'S SO HOT AND I'M GONNA MARRY HER. Bo-ring!
Second: She's. Way. Too. Old. Like, how?! Is an explanation needed for this?! Nah...
Third: She kept trying to steal Firestar away from Sandstorm! Unfair! She should be ashamed of herself! Trying to get Firestar to love a stupid dead cat instead of a living cat who's much more disciplined than her and is overall, just better! At least Sandstorm got to know ...more
That was beautiful! Spottedleaf was as useless as a rock. Even the rock has more personality than her. Even Sandstorm and Bluestar are better than her! - MLPFan
*weird smell of plants and stuff fills air*
Spottedleaf: oh, I love you Firestar!
Firestar: Uhh, I'm trying to sleep. Can you leave me alone!
Spottedleaf: NO. LOVE YOU.
Firestar: Sorry to break it to you, but Sandstorm is my mate, and we have grandchildren,
Spottedleaf: I wish it could be different! *dramatic exit* - ILuv2ReadAndWrite
Spottedleaf is honestly the worst cat in the warrior cats universe and the WORST MARY SUE IN THE WORLD. Reason number one she is stunningly gorgeous and she has love at first sight. Secondly, practically every cat in ThunderClan thinks she is perfect. And it is so darn creepy after oh so devastating death she haunts him! That is why Spottedleaf deserves to be first on THIS list!
Spottedleaf is not a Mary Sue. What's her flaw you ask? She most likely not a good fighter. Maybe she's a terrible fighter. So, whoever put her on this list... GET HER OFF OF THE LIST NOW! - WarriorcatKitty104 Comments
She is such a pain! I honestly hated her! She just comes waltzing in and is all like, 'Bramblestar! Pay attention to me! ' (Honestly, if you watch Grease, she is literally Cha-Cha). Bramblestar is all like, 'Well, Squirrelflight and I seem to be over, I guess I can spare a few moments.' Then, at the end, she's like, 'Bye, Bramblestar.' and in her head like, 'Ha, he fell for my trap! He's hopelessly in love with me! ' Then he's like, 'Well, Squirrelflight still seems to have forgotton about me, so bye Jessy, I guess I could have loved you? I still love Squirrelflight' she's like, 'Pft! Of course you could not have loved me, what was I thinking? I guess I should leave.' *runs away sobbing her eyes out* - Lightfang
She is the female version of Firestar, just to make things worse
So much wasted potential! I still haven't read Bramblestar's Storm, but I know quite some information about her. She and Bramblestar maybe could have been together? Honestly, I think it would have been interesting while I was reading Visions of Shadows to find out that Bramble is with a former-kittypet, and that Squirrelflight was okay and moved onto a new tom. I would have liked to see Squirrel with a different ThunderClan tom who actually loved her! Yet, Bramble and Squirrel remained the same from before the whole Holly, Jay, and Lion fiasco started up. And I'm really questioning why? They could have forgiven each other and moved onto new mates, and more people might have liked that! But no! I'm just sort of disappointed with the new plots of the newer books. Sure, the Apprentice's Quest wasn't the absolute worst, but it had a lot of boring things in it. I really would have liked to see Alder and Spark with a new father! But their father is just Bramblestar in that book. I would ...more
What was the point of her?! She just left afterwards and was never seen again! Maybe she was just there to make Squirrelflight jealous? - Puppytart44 Comments
I personally prefer Millie over Silverstream. (Hate Silverstream.) Millie was a great cat, but obviously she has flaws. Look up the definition, whoever put her on here.
I personally don't think Millie is that much of a Mary-Sue. If you've read the three manga books about Millie and Graystripe, (The Lost Warrior, Warrior's Refuge, Warrior's Return) you can see how much Millie helped Graystripe on his return to ThunderClan. When Graystripe was about to give up hope of ever finding ThunderClan again at the end of Warrior's Refuge, Millie encouraged him and she was probably the reason how Graystripe found ThunderClan again. Sure, she refused a warrior name, and is a bit too worrying when it comes to Briarlight, but I just think that it's from her lack of experience in a Clan. Give her time, and consider her overall appearance. Millie shares qualities with Daisy, and I think both their reasons are because they weren't Clanborn. I'm not saying this as an offense to non-Clanborn cats, it's just that cats like Daisy and Millie are naturally overprotective because they don't know how well Clan cats take care of each other. Millie is better than Daisy, though. - Aurashine
Millie isn't a sue in the slightest. She looked nothing like Silverstream, and had to work so hard to get into Thunderclan with Graystripe. He only chose her because Graystripe truely loved her like he did Silverstream. She helped Graystripe, yet didn't always succeed. She was hurt, and I think blinded by getting hit with briars or brambles before arriving in the loner barn with those who helped her and such. Plus, Millie was the one to stand up to the dogs, and knew how to deal with them, but she also has some flaws to pull her weight with her good traits. In my opinion, Graystripe had many reasons to fall in love with her. Millie saved his life on multiple occasions, encouraged him, helped him, and made sure he kept his sanity. She was kind, but also clumsy, and couldn't exactly get hunting or fighting on the first try. Not at all. - Diistortions
True anyone else remember that she can speak DOG52 Comments
Being invincible is a stupid power. It just means you win everything, happy, happy, happy...
He is just a typical hot guy in warriors who is also bland and boring
Uh... That's his power. Being invincible. Blame the Erins for giving him the power, not making him a bad character. I mean, sometimes he was a bit bland, but he never beat a fox as kit. At least I didn't read that. He and Hollyleaf were saved by Thornclaw's patrol, not by themselves. And Jayfeather almost died. He always had to deal with it, Hollyleaf "died", Cinderheart had trouble accepting his power, I mean... He's not a Gary-Stu.
I Hate Lionblaze he shows off38 Comments
Mary Sue means "perfect" even though the entire fandom talks about the cats flaws after calling them a Mary sue. - davis_895263
I don't know what Mary Sue means either but I agree. Only she's like super cool so deal with it
I just think Squirrelflight is like super annoying like she is so rude but she is also super funny when she like bosses the warriors around I think she gets it from Sandstorm not Firestar he is the best.
How dare you put her on this list? She is one of my favorite cats ever! - WarriorcatKitty53 Comments
They totally ruined him...He and Firestar had so much potential... - davis_895263
Nah man...he's not a gary stu - davis_895263
He's not a Gary Stu in my eyes. I really liked him as Onewhisker, but hated him as Onestar. Also, here's a warrior's joke!
Firestar: I don't like WindClan very much. I give in a Onestar rating! - ILuv2ReadAndWrite
He is NOT a Gary Stu! He is a Yarg Uts! (Gary Stu Backwards! )21 Comments
She's such a Mary Sue! After she had kits with another cat from another CLAN she didn't get exiled for like at least one moon! Okay okay she wasn't a med cat anymore but then she became a med cat again! She's so perfect and in Leafpools wish Squirrelfloght doesn't want the kits but then feather tail comes down to guilt trip her in to taking the kits! Even star clan treats her like she's a queen! She's the worst!
SHE is such a mary sue not jk she is good but SQuirrelflight is I hate her cause of crowfeather
I'm not a massive fan of leaf pool but I wouldn't consider her as a sue. She isn't the prettiest cat ever (not saying she's ugly just normal looking). Like all medicine cats she is close to star clan just like spotted leaf yellow wing cinder pelt and Jay feather. She has drama and gets upset about cats dying and is very soft hearted not in a good way though. She had one Tom padding after her which was crow but he wasn't exactly madly in love with her. He was just thinking about feather tail and basically compared loads of stuff to her which is why I think that. Leaf pool didn't adapt to being a warrior too well to be honest and the only thing I can really say which makes her special is the fact she found moon stone and has the kits from the power of three and her father is clan leader which isn't really her it's just her Mary Sue kin
SHE IS AWESOME. * coughs* but *coughs* squirrel- * wheeze* flight! should not be on here45 Comments
I've seen this so many times how is she a Mary Sue? Answer is she isn't!
She is brave
She also has flaws. She is insecure about her scars and envious of Cloudtail's relationship with Daisy. INSECURE AND ENVIOUS! Those are flaws. I can't see how anyone can think she's a Mary sue.
Finally. This snobby brat is a Mary Sue and disappointment.
Why is she on here she is such a nice character! She is...
Not a mary- sue - Murphypaw
Well, I got sort of mad at her when she helped Cinderpelt, it seemed like she was trying to take Leafpool's place. But now I know she didn't mean to, but like she was so perfect...you know? But I mean she had Cloudtail, and they were so cute. But like, she is 3/4th a mary-sue because she just seemed so perfect when Daisy came along, like Cloudtail isn't a idiot. He loves Brightheart, and would never give her up...like what the crap Brightheart but I mean she understood but like still...…..20 Comments
She's kinda overratted and snobby, seemingly perfect. Mary-Sue for sure.
She maybe is a little bit of a Mary Sue, but to be honest, I love Silverstream's character. - ILuv2ReadAndWrite
Finally. This snobby brat is a Mary Sue and disappointment
YOU WILL DIE IN A HOLE, GO TO THE DARK FOREST, DIE THERE IN A HOLE, THEN YOU GET TO RELIVE YOUR LIFE MISERABLY, AND THEN DIE IN ANOTHER HOLE! SILVERSTREAM IS BY FAR THE GREATEST CHARACTER OF ALL TIME!33 Comments
Ugh he abounded his clan when they needed him the most and returned when it suited him, and his mate dovewing is a Big marry sue One time she said ivypool was jealous of her and she quats "no wonder hollyleaf isn't part of the prophecy she killied a cat! "
I hope Tigerheartstar faceplants himself into moldy lasagna
This guy is such a mary-sue.8 Comments
UGH. STAR FLOWER. Please do not mention her in my presence. (Goes into room to scream)
I hate her so much, die in a poisoned pool!
Yeah, no, total Mary Sue. Her "loyalty" is all over the place, and she plays with the emotions with pretty much all the toms ever. I mean, really? And she puts on the water-works when her father is murdered, but then becomes mates with one of the cats who wanted him dead? I want to trust her now that she is Clear Sky's loving mate, but I can't: she's always seemed just naturally evil. She's manipulative, secretive, and treats toms like objects.
TOTAL MARY SUE. look how she plays with toms!24 Comments
I honestly have zero idea how Goldenflower got here. Like what? I'm actually confused - Juniper
She wasnt a really mary sue mary sue
Goldenflower has her own fair share of flaws, who ever wrote this can't see that.
Pluse she is one of the only peple who has reason behind hateing her (former) mate.
Honestly, why, just why?
He's not a Gary Stu. He's only killed a few cats, and the only reason he's able to do that is because of the fact that he has dog tooth claws instead of cat claws. Really, he's pretty weak. - ILuv2ReadAndWrite
Why does everyone like Scourge? He is a stupid jerk who kills people and everyone likes him. Really?
Can I just say this
I HATE SCOURGE, HATE ME ALL YOU WANT BUT I'D KILL THIS DUDE IF I WAS A WARRIOR CAT, ALSO, I MADE A STORY ABOUT ME KILLING SCOURGE ACTUALLY
The reason is he's overrated and stupidly weak. People see him as strong but he's only killed like 3 cats and that's nothing compared to Sol, mapleshade, and Tigerstar if not more. They're all giving him awkward looks like 'that's all you can do? ' - DerpaHerpaMerpa
Um guys what is a mary sue?23 Comments
What did WHITESTORM do? Like seriously that is unfair! - BloodFang
Why is he on here! - Murphypaw
Gary-Stue is not a REALLY bad thing... - sydneyhelget
Why is he on here - Camaro64 Comments
Brook, you and your tribe hold Stormfur captive. You're not... Just...
HOW CAN BEOOK JUST FALL IN LOVE LIKE THAT? - poppystar
Once again, a cat added because someone didn't like her, not because she's a Mary Sue.
Ugh. Brook should go die in a hole. - Scarletfall
I don't like her :3
Dude, Jayfeather is just this weak, blind child. The greatest love of his life was a stick. Honestly. - ILuv2ReadAndWrite
Jayfeather is anything but this. Jayfeather isn't handsome,strong or invincible (Lionblaze is though) like a Gary sue. He doesn't have an overly depressing story. People are using the Leafpool reason to justify it. How would you feel if you were told you were adopted? Lied to your whole life by your mentor. You'd freak out.
Also If you say him being edgy and snappy makes him a sue then that makes Blackstar,Bramblecaw (when he was whining about Squirrelflight),Berrynose and Squirrelflight all Sues as they're whiny. But none of that is true all of those characters are Mary/Gary sues. People who don't like Jayfeather don't have good reasons other than "whiny" and "edgy". Scourge is the edgiest cat so complain about him. - Dawnlight
He's a cliche emo teenager. He always complains about how Leafpool and Crowfeather are his parents, and how he's blind. He's got blue eyes, one of the worst things you can do to a cat unless it's common in their breed. A siamese would have blue eyes, but Jayfeather is a silver tabby mix if I remember correctly. NO SIAMESE!
Like the previous post states, he is constantly challenged by the narrative of the story. He's clumsy and a grump, constantly snappy and has a tragic backstory. His mother didn't want him, and his father is kind of a prick in my opinion. Almost 99% of the time he is completely emo and can never be happy. The only time he ever screwed up is when he through a STICK out of all things into the lake and almost drown Firestar. Wow. You wanted him to cry and whine and mourn after Flametail's death? NOPE! To emo to have feelings like that! Even though Jayfeather liked Flametail as in friendship, he just can't mourn over someone from SHADOWCLAN of all things. Plus, he ...more - Diistortions
And why wouldn't you have a blind cat with flaws in a prophecy? Because everyone has to be powerful and flawless and the literal living definitions of Gary Stu/Mary Sues? - SnowyOwl
Um, excuse me, could someone tell me where the lie detector machine is? Oh thank you! *Straps lie detector around whoever put this in here* *Lie detector buzzes so much it explodes* Jayfeather? Really? I really liked him, he was so cool! He puts up with blindness, was one of the three and is ADORABLE! Look at that face! So is he a Mary Sue? NOPE! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior43 Comments
Yup, Bramblestar is a Gary-stu. HAHAhaha... This is officially the stupidest list I have ever seen. Squirrelflight was never even described as pretty! He doesn't even have that many friends! Feathertail and Stormfur are gone. Crowfeather's returned to his prickly old self. Ashfur pretty much backstabbed him by working with Hawkfrost, claiming he was not trustworthy, and insisting Leafpool made up a StarClan sign. He wasn't even temporary deputy! Graystripe was officially pronounced dead, they even had a funeral. Brambleclaw was officially deputy. It's like a deputy deciding to retire. If for some reason the deputy wants to be a warrior again, he's not going to be reinstated as deputy.
Bramblestar was tempted to kill his own leader. Gary-stu? NOPE. He was the son of Tigerstar, and had to struggle to prove his loyalty to his own Clan just because of his looks. Gary-stu? NOPE. He and Squirrelflight argued a lot. Gary-stu? For the third time, nope. Even though he knew Tigerstar was ...more
Wait a minute... to all you people who think Bramblestar is a Gary-stu, maybe take a second to think... Ah yes, trained in the DARK FOREST, Had an EVIL FATHER, and in case you didn't know, Mary-su's and Gary-stu's are supposed to mean "A CAT THAT HAS NO FLAWS"
Graystripe is the rightful leader of ThunderClan! I said it! Graystar for life! - ILuv2ReadAndWrite
He. Is. NOT. A. MARY SUE. - WarriorcatKitty15 Comments
Basically the only reason why some people view him as a Gary Stu is that his mother completely ignored Crookedstar and gave all the attention to Oakheart. - ILuv2ReadAndWrite
When I was reading Crookedstar's promise, I got a bit jealous that oak heart got all the love. He was doing great in his app training as well. He is OK, he just makes me mad! - BloodFang
Okay so he IS a LITTLE bit of a Mary sue... I don't hate him, I don't have too many problems with him, I just wish Rainflower would have treated Crookedjaw better oof - WarriorcatKitty
I agree that Oak heart is a May Sue. He was always trying to make CrookedStar do the right thing. Tottaly Mary Sue!10 Comments
Depressed emo cat? Yeah, he's TOTALLY a Mary Sue. - Willowfur
How does loving three cats make Crowfeather, Crowfeather of all cats, a Gary-stu?!?
He's the exact opposite of a Gary-Stu seriously this list is getting ridiculous
He loved three cats Nightcloud Leafpool and Feathertail.9 Comments
How is Feathertail a Mary Sue or a weakling? She had argued with Stormfur in defense of her relationship with Crowpaw(who was from a different Clan, don't get me wrong though, Crow x Feather is one my favorite ships). She most definitely is not weak. She sacrificed herself to kill Sharptooth, a mountain lion 2 times her size, when an entire Tribe couldn't do it.
If you think she's weak or a mary sue you are evil
I think this is why she's dead. - Juniper
Feathertail defense rant.
Ok, if you really think she's weak or a mary sue, re read the books. Do you think this would be a Mary sue!? Her mother died, she argued with her brother, Stormfur all the time, loved a cat younger than her, and than she died young, and was never able to start a family. Feathertail lived a short life. You really think that would be a Mary sue? We can see that she has many flaws. She loved a cat from a diffrent clan and didn't let her brother help her. A mary sue would never do that. Feathertail is simply awesome.Stop calling this poor cat a mary sue. And by the way SHE A WEAKLING DIISTORTIONS!
Gleam who now - Juniper
Don't know this character and for sure is not canon, but she does sound like a mary sue - ILuv2ReadAndWrite
Weird purple cat with rainbow eyes. fell in love with grandfather and has three toms going after her.
All right first of all... HER WARRIOR NAME WAS STARGLEAM, she was revived by starclan TWICE. she was revived to give out the ten, oh no sorry, 11 commandments. she is loved by ashfur, hawkfrost, blackstar and everyone else. she chose her leader name, became leader when firestar was still alive and chose her leader name which may I add while gleamstar is a pretty name, it is her warrior name flipped. she also had a prophecy when she was born. Plus she had kits in a lesbian relationship, lot long after being against gay relationships9 Comments
He killed his father, and then was blinded, then killed by his mother. I hated him, but he was not a Gary Stu. - ILuv2ReadAndWrite
Yay brokenstar oh and watch warriors epic rap battles brokenstar and mapleshade(are you hungry have a treat its from your mummy-mapleshade)
Brokenstar huh..Ho9nestly he got his eyes scratched so hard he was blind stop picking on some poor character.
Yeah she's mary suee
People! Stop posting non-canonical cats! This is for the original series! - Juniper
Cute name, but - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Its not exist12 Comments
Ivypool is not a Mary-sue she kept risking her life while Dovewing sat around whining.
I am Whitewing so DO NOT punish my daughter!
No. Ivypool had her share of flaws, too. She's honestly one of my favorite warrior cats. She risked her life in THE DARK FOREST and she kept her feelings hidden. Sure, she was a bit nasty sometimes but she turned out a hero. She was so brave! She even killed a cat to remain loyal to thunderclan so that the dark forest thought she was loyal to them! She was creeped out to the bone, yet she still went into the dark forest! Is this enough?
IVYPOOL IS ONE OF THE BEST CATS!
I didn't like her at first. I thought she was being mean to Dovewing. Dovewing too. OKAY HOLD UP. Dovewing had a lot a of trouble too. family troubles and mate troubles. So BOTH OF THEM ARE NOT MARY SUES!
Ivypool and Dovewing have grown to be the best. So YEAH."
Uh... you mean Dovewing right? Ivypool spied on cat hell from her dreams. She was a hero. She was terrified by the Dark Forest cats but still continued spying for her Clan. She was loyal, and an overall good cat. (by the way, I totally ship her and Blossomfall. Ivy x Blossom is great.)25 Comments
I do hate her but, shes not a Mary-Sue. - DerpaHerpaMerpa
There is no way she was a mary sue! Sure, she came to terms with her mother's death a lot faster then Bluestar: but she isn't perfect. Honestly, my only guess for why she is here is either because people favored Bluestar or because some just didn't like her mate (Thistleclaw.) I suppose her death was the reason he turned evil, creating an evil Tigerstar: who beat up Tiny and then invited bigger Tiny (Scourge) to come attack the clans. He also made almost every cat in the forest pregnant, resulting in half-rogue kits (one of which messed stuff up in the lake territory).. so yeah, her love with Thistleclaw did pretty much screw the four clans over, but where would the story be without it?
Snowfur's not exactly a Mary Sue; She's just a bit... Annoying.
For one thing, she did have flaws! She loved Thistleclaw for Starclan's sake. That, though, doesn't make her a Mary Sue. Need I remind you, a Mary Sue is a character that is PERFECT! Snowfur isn't perfect.
However, I do agree that she was a bit unpleasant. I remeber one scene where Bluefur was trying to explain to her sister about the prophecy Goosefeather gave her. What does Snowfur do?
"Just ignore him..." she says
Then she ignores Bluefur's concern.
"I think Thistleclaw will be a great father! " she says, comepletly ignoring an important prophecy her sister is trying to explain to her!
Honestly, she was just too busy mooning over Thistleclaw...
Snowfur, SNOWFUR! How dare you! Just look at the pic and you won't need any more input! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior24 Comments
No, Dovewing is a sue, Bluestar is a broken child with a sweet heart. I love her so much!
How is she a Mary Stu...
What? She went insane, died saving fire heart and she gave up her kits! She isn't a Mary Sue! Maybe like 10% BUT OTHERWISE NO! Mary Sues are totally perfect with no flaws. Bluestar loses her mind, doesn't cope well with grief and at times can be arrogant
Anyone who thinks Bluestar or yellow fang should be in this list, let alone before daisy,
GO AWAY IN A HOLE AND NEVER COME OUT! This must be a mistake daisy is total Mary but Bluestar and yellowfang are my favorite characters so this must be a mistake
I hate him. How is he a Gary stu if he tried to kill cats though? - WarriorcatKitty
I like Ashfur and all but, I'm not gonna disagree! He was so unkind to Squirrelflight after they fell out of love, he tried to kill not just the leader, but three helpless kits and he got a ticket on the hogwarts expr-oops, wrong book- Starclan express (from platform 9 and 3 quarters :P) because he "Loved too much."
And to that one person, your right! Mapleshade (my favorite warrior, by the way) did the same thing and went to the dark forest! It just enrages me when I break it down and focus on each little part because, at the end of the day, total Gary Stu! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
I truly don't get why people sympathize with this character. He acted like a huge jerk to Squirrelflight after their "breakup", he tried to kill his leader and three kits, and after all that, he gets to go to Starclan because he just "loved too much". Do you want to know who did basically the same thing as him and went to the Dark Forest/Place of no Stars? Mapleshade. If another cat from the same clan can do the same (the only difference is not successfully killing any cats) and go to Starclan because "oh he is so misunderstood and in pain and he loved too much", then that is a perfect sign of a Gary Stu cat.
How come ash fur got into star clan when thistle claw didn't. At least thistle claw didn't try to kill loads of cats then complain he loved too much17 Comments
Well duh... this is actually the only cat on the list that actually is a Mary-Sue, right down to her name.
Ah, yes, this is definitely canon. Not. Still funny though - WarriorcatKitty
Nope I don't get this...
HA HA Haha...
(By the way I'm just gonna stael this a use it as a code name for Jessy) - Murphypaw
*sigh* - sydneyhelget7 Comments
Wagontiger is pretty nice in the books to be honest, I don't know why he's on here.
Everybody vote this we need to get it to the top of the list for all to see
Wagontiger is best boi how dare you put him on this list!?! Go to the calm down corner. -frostfrost and friends
What the frick... Wagontiger... of all the fake names!5 Comments
I looked at this thinking that maybe there would be a character that was a Mary Sue, but then thinking about each character, they all had their flaws and their good things.
People, this one is here becuase there are no Mary sues in warriors. We have to make one up, and what better name is their than STARSTARSTAR for a Mary sue? - WarriorcatKitty
Stop putting fake names. It's making me mad. - DerpaHerpaMerpa
WHO? - sydneyhelget10 Comments
How? Briarlight had a horrible life, although not really to horrible. She thinks as herself as useless all the time here's an example.
Jayfeather: "So no appetite, eh? "
Briarlight: "What? "
Jayfeather: "You might be able to fool Millie, but not me. Do you really think it's fair to make her worry just because you've gotten it into your head that you don't deserve food because you can't hunt? "
Briarlight: "What are you talking about? "
Jayfeather: "I know you think you're being fair. But it's not that simple."
She's starving herself because she feels like she's useless. She's almost the opposite (I'm saying almost because she has some good traits to like every character) of perfect to she's self concision,nervous, and miserable? Sound overpowered and perfect to you? - Dawnlight
...PLEASEE! Briarlight is the opposite of a Mary Sue. The Non-sue or something. Could somebody please tell me how getting squished by a falling tree, not being able to walk again and still not losing hope is being a Mary Sue. CAN I GET AN AMEN? - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
OKAY> I was so sad when she died. I can't imagine life with out my HAPPY Briarlight. Put Blossomfall on this, or a whiny list. Not Mary Sue.
Mary Sue. And all Briarlight haters here- The Rise Of BriarlightHaterClan begins!4 Comments
Ewww I haaattteee hawkfrost
Despite for being evil he is every boy in school I used to like. - Murphypaw
Erm, not at all! Hawkfrost (despite being evil) still was not a Gary Stu! Plus, whatever drove him evil (sorry, I haven't finished that series yet) must have been bad, real bad! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
He was a really disappointing villain but not a Gary stu
He's not a gary stu.. He was manipulated by his own father.2 Comments
What the *. Why is Mosskit on here, she is my favorite Warrior cat I just have no words to describe my rage right now. Take this off NOW.
What the fuuu-- she doesn't even survive for longer than a month - Juniper
Scarletfall's right, along with about 100% of you! Did you even read the books? - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Mosskit is DEAD and was NEVER alive! How does this make her one? - SilentShadow10 Comments
Leader name: sTaRsTaR
What do you mean she is the best character - Juniper
She's supposed to be a sue, if you're talking about Starkit from Starkit's Prophecy. It was a joke story/troll story. She's still full on sue, though.
not canon - Scarletfall2 Comments
She is a Mary Sue because when she talked to firestar, if he said anything about another cat she would storm off and not talk to him until he BEGGED for forgiveness - sydneyhelget
Someone was a Spottedleaf x Firestar shipper or something shipper and they decided to post Sandstorm.. Look.. Sand x Fire is staying, why?
Cinder x Fire:
Sandstorm never stole Fireheart away, so shut it down please. Firestar never noticed, not because he was a jerk, but because he saw Cinder as a sister, their relationship was totally platonic. He felt bad when Cinderpelt got ran over not because he loved her, but because he was her mentor, and was supposed to be watching over her.
Spotted x Fire:
Fire had lust for Spotted, they barely talked, on about 3 times before Spotted got killed by Clawface. I know they kinda loved each other.. But after Firestar met Sandstorm and fell in love, he was more mature and realized that their love wasn't real, and Spottedleaf had to realize that in Starclan. Spottedleaf's acceptance was when she saved Sandstorm from Mapleshade by sacrificing herself. I think it was her last gift to Firestar once and for all, and then she ...more
Sandstorm? Why her! She ain't no Mary sue! She was kind to Fireheart, a brave fighter and had a noble death during Alderpaw/heart's quest! your Mary sue? I think NOT! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
To that one person, I don't think that Cinderpelt really loved Firestar that way...All the authors said was that she loved him, but that doesn't really mean lust, either. I don't think that a 6 month old kitten could be old enough to feel that way,(they do feel emotions, maybe not the same as humans, but...) even though they can be force-bred.(which, of course, isn't happening.) HOWEVER, Sandstorm gets defeated, has flaws, and GAVE BIRTH TO LEAFPOOL, the worst character in that thing!9 Comments
It's not canon. But, I don't think any of these cats on this list are Mary sues. Maybe Billystorm a little bit. A LITTLE BIT. But other than that, I can't vote for anyone. Except for this made up kitten who I shall now say is perfect and does everything right and never gets hurt and is a perfect Hunter and fighter and is super nice and gets along with everbody ans is always a kitten. THAT'S A MARYSUE LOL. - WarriorcatKitty
Unless we're talking about Moonflower, then it's not canon. - IcetailofWishClan
huh - Scarletfall
I don't think this is canon.1 Comment
Urm, sorry but no! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Mates: Turtle Tail (Formerly), Slate
Sons: White Tail, Black Ear
Daughter: Silver Stripe
Mother: Quiet Rain
Brothers: Clear Sky
Sister: Fluttering Bird
Clan: Shadow Clan (Formerly), Wind Clan - CreamstripeOfButterClan
Ok, I think Gray Wing is such a amazing cat. So he is not a Gary stu BUT a Mary sue - Gingerbobo
He isn't a Gary Stu at all! One of the defining traits of a Mary Sue/Gary Stu is that they have no real flaws, and that they power through the plot with nearly no loss, or with excess angst. And as awful as Clear Sky's evilness is,the angst isn't too excessive, and Grey Wing is clearly hurt, damaged, and in other ways thrown around by the plot.6 Comments
I HAVE HAD ENOUGH! THIS LIST IS PURE SPITE! Yellowfang gave up her kit, her clan and (eventually) her life! She gave Firestar the life of compassion, which makes sense because she's a nice cat! Three best traits of Yellowfang:
3. (This is so me! :P) Rebel! 1
Sorry but if you want to discuss why she's a Mary Sue, I'll be waiting! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
I am clickin out now. - sydneyhelget
Since when is Yellowfang anything even remotely resembling a Mary Sue? - Scarletfall
I want to ban whoever thinks she should be here.1 Comment
Very evil, she killed Spottedleaf and every cat except Bluestar who Crookedstar loved at all. - Willowfur
Evil, but not a total Mary-sue, besides being mates with Appledusk from RiverClan. He left her anyway.
I'm not just saying this because she's my favorite warrior (she is) but No! No,no,no,no,no honey! Just, just no!
Mapleshade, watched her own three kit drown in front of her eyes and then her mate wasn't bothered to save them (she could do better than appledusk, anyway) and killed 3 kits. Like, opposite of a sue!
#MAPLESHADEISTHEBESTWARRIORWHOEVERLIVED! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Please tell me I’m seeing things! I’m not? ok, I want a private chat with whoever put this on here! Like, seriously. I mean, she did kill some cats like Appledusk, Ravenwing, I think she killed Frecklewish, (why not have gone for Reedshine while your at it! I hate reedshine! ) But, she was distraught and hallucinating. Cut her some slack, guys - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior1 Comment
Well, she abandoned her kit, but she is perfect. A lot of toms pad after her...
Except for abandoning her kit, she's a total sue! Toms pad after her everywhere, she's a fierce warrior, and she created to super successful kits, even if she didn't want one of them. - Swiftdawn
She is nt perfect, but she is a sue
She's actually the exact opposite. She abandoned one of her own kits. So she's not a Sue. - IcetailofWishClan1 Comment
Yellowfang's unbelievable grandmother
Moving on with life is such a terrible crime, clearly. It was definitely better for Berrynose to permanently live in the past, alone and sad, instead of being with Poppyfrost. Oh, yes. I see your logic. - SnowyOwl
Oh hey, would you look at that! My sister died! Oh well, I'mma take her mans now! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
'Oh, no! My sister is dead well I'mma steal her mate! What?! He still loves her?! DISGRACE! Now I'mma go to the moonpool and let Breezepelt kill me cause he has feelings for a cat he won't see in another billion moons just like basically EVERY OTHER CAT WHO HAS A NEW MATE AFTER THERE FIRST ONE DOES! (Graystripe, Crowfeather, Tallstar's mother, Firestar...)' MARY-SUE FOR YOU?
Heh, my sister died so now I can take her husband... oh hi Berrynose let's have kits!
He is the opposite of a mary sue. He's a selfish, horrible monster who let his kits drown and blamed his mate so he could stay popular in his clan. - Juniper
I'm not really sure what to think about this one! Anyway, whatever you thought, Mapleshade could do better! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Oh and, by doing a bit of math (SKRA), I've figured out he was LITERALLY CHEATING on Mapleshade and Reedshine, having two mates at once! - Juniper
He's not a marry sue...3 Comments
Her name sounds like a Mary Sue but she's anything but. It wasn't her choice to be called Princess just like it wasn't my cats choice to be called Harry, but names don't define a person. My name is OceanBreeze, but you don't just gotta judge that I like the ocean. I do but still. My actual name is foreign (actually it's Irish) but like, don't just assume that makes me Irish. I am but still! I could write a whole book on why you shouldn't go judging people on their names but in stead I'm gonna go raid the money jar, because if I had a dollar for every time I seen a cat that doesn't deserve to be on this list I would practically own the warrior's series by now! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
She appears all of six times in the book. SIX TIMES. And none of the encounters were all that long. How are we supposed to know enough about her to decide this or not? - Scarletfall
We don't know that much about Princess to know her overall traits. Along with that we got very little about her personality to know whether or not but for now I say no to the whole Mary Sue thing!
So what if her name is Princess. Her name doesn't reflect any of her traits. She didn't even get enough book time to show if she was a Sue at all.11 Comments
It reminds me of that saying "it's raining dogs and cats" except with goats! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
This name is so funny all I think of when I hear his name is a bunch of goats in a hurricane!
He's not. He's not. And yes, his name is funny, everyone get over it please. - Scarletfall
This cats name...6 Comments
Mate: Gorse Fur
Daughters: Morning Whisker, Moth Flight
Sons: Ember Fur, Dust Muzzle
Clan: Wind Clan - CreamstripeOfButterClan
Even though Wind Runner is a bit overpowered compared to other cats, she isn't a total Mary Sue, because she goes through real hardships that aren't handled too unrealistically, and she does have obvious character flaws that impact the storyline.
She skilled. That makes her a Sue? She has a LOT of character flaws. She's stubborn, ugly, irritable... There's no way she's a Sue.
She is always right and is an amazing hunter and fighter. Even her daughter is special3 Comments
Now, I haven't finished Dawn Of The Clan's yet, but Clear Sky, to me, doesn't seem like a Gary Stu. He might just be on this list because of hate, or because people don't like him, but to be honest, Clear Sky just doesn't seem like a Gary Stu. However, as I said before, I haven't finished Dawn Of The Clans yet, so I'll have to wait and see what happens! - oceanbreezetheawesomewarrior
Honestly, I'm pretty sure the only reason he is here is because people don't like him. Which is understandable, Clear Sky is shown to be a villain in most of the Dawn of the Clans books. But he is DEFINITELY not a perfect or idealized character. I mean, hello? He lost his first love and his unborn kits, had to go on to take charge of a whole new group of cats and become one of the most hated cats in the forest, find another mate only to have her run off to twolegplace with his unborn kits and die: leaving only one survivor, then he ruins his chances of ever being a father to his only son by making a grief-driven decision to push him away. The list goes on, I mean honestly: who would want his life?
Mates: Bright Stream (Formerly), Storm (Formerly), Star Flower
Sons: Thunder, Tiny Branch
Daughters: Flower Foot, Dew Petal
Mother: Quiet Rain
Brothers: Grey Wing, Jagged Peak
Sister: Fluttering Bird
Clan: Sky Clan - CreamstripeOfButterClan
Clear Sky fights and kills to get his way. In Moth Flight's Vision, he blinds Willow Tail which kills her. He busts up Wind Runner's leg. He claws cats if they don't agree.
Misty (A mother! )
He also has had three mates.
Right after Bright Stream died, and Storm came along, he was mates with her. No thoughts on Bright Stream. Then, when Storm dies, he sees Star Flower and accuses his son of jealousy. No thoughts on Bright Stream or Storm.
Abandons Thunder, and goes
" oh well "
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