Countries Who Should Leave the NATOgilde24ever This is a list of countries who will hopefully leave the NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) immediately, these countries have stronger ties with the Islamic world and East-Asia than the USA, Britain or France has.
It would be only good for their economy, independence and especially for their reputation.
The Top Ten
Guys, seriously. I'm a guy who lives in Turkey and who sees what's going on in here. Sorry but some of these voters are just a little jokers. Turkey is not a threat for anybody. Yeah, government is doing a poor job. But bombing innocent Kurds? Do you even know about terrorist groups ans their activities in here? I can answer for you: NO. You guys are talking with your American or European brains. You can't see the truth. You can't see what's going on in here. In my city, the capital of Turkey, Ankara, 3 bombs exploded, suicide attacks. Too many deaths. But I bet you didn't know this either. Open your eyes! Turkey is under attack by Terrorism since 60's. They are not just "innocent kurds". If you want to talk about ISIS, ask our government. We hate our leaders too. But Turkey has a growing economy, 2th biggest and strongest army in NATO. You can't just "eh, get out the Nato ya little Turks". Your countries have some opportunities in Middle East. And Turkey is a ...more
Yes, I am Turkish. And I don't see any benefit coming from NATO to Turkey. Instead US and larger European countries benefit from Turkey. Turkey's strategic location makes them want to keep Turkey in. I wish we could get out of NATO. But I know they won't let us go (at least for now). We can protect our country against any enemy in any state. We don't need you. By the way, kurds are not innocent (at least most of them). They are villagers and farmers during day time, and terrorists at night time. You keep talking. You know nothing about the conditions in Turkey. Come and spend a long time in Turkey, especially in Eastern and southeastern parts, and lets see what you will say then. You are ill-informed by the popular media in your country who can impose their opinions on you by letting you see what they want you to see only. Nothing here is like what you see on your TVs. Maybe you can wake up one day, but I really don't think so.
Seems people here who post can't speak proper English, I am gonna assume most of you are Turkish, and even though it hurts me to generalize, it is too likely to be true. Yes, Turkey has the 2nd largest military, but their military budget isn't up to par with half the countries in NATO. As some people do not know, from what I gather, NATO is a defensive alliance. Any aggressive operation basically makes Turkey ineligible from dismissal of protection, such as the shooting down of Russian planes. So if Russia declares war on Turkey that has a stick up it's ass and thinks it's safe, know that NATO isn't obligated to defend Turkey from the 2nd most powerful army on earth. Besides that, if a campaign of aggressive land grab happens after ISIS, NATO members will probably rearm the Kurds to keep the balance, since they are a terrorist organization (as if Turkey didn't purge them and started it) that's local. You guys just vote for Erdogan and become Islamist, and go the route of becoming a ...more
Turkey is on its way to exit NATO or be kicked out due to recent S400 purchases from Russia. I heard that Russian air defense system is not compatible with NATO's joint communications system.V 72 Comments
"If Germany goes it will give strength to other nations to leave the USA's tyrannical sphere of influence. The USA is like a wife abuser, what is needed is for one of its stronger victims to stand up and say enough is enough and encourage others"
If Germany wants to defend itself against the Russian Invasion that will come, it must raise its own army. I don't care about "Nazi domination" Germany should be allowed to defend itself.
Don't think there's a realistic chance to leave, there's no real independency to USA, still today. Unfortunately they are political and military weak although they are economically big in Europe.
They can enjoy their little EU armyV 8 Comments
Yes Italy should definitely leave Nato because it has become a unilaterally-controlled alliance driven by its major player's interest. United States are a literally hijacked country by a bunch of slimy disconnected sociopaths who do not represent their fabulous people, they just lick each other's asses while playing golf together, whose only goal is destabilizing the world to control it. It's not the Home of the Brave anymore and has become a dangerous ally that could drag all of us to hell. It's up to US people take back control of their great Country.
The USA uses every country as a puppet state, not only Italy.
Italy has a strong export and economical ties with Russia and China, a relationship that could be improved after a more transparent neutrality policy and a more independent administration of foreign affairs and wars.
Of course yes, Italy is the scum of Europe, a strong Europe is needed for fighting along with US.V 4 Comments
Because most people commenting here about romania can't even point it on the map...
Romania is a very weak country. Their politicians are puppets on a string. It will remain in Nato.
Romanian should leave Nato (better if hadnt joined at all) since it only won Russia's hatred.
I agree, NATO was the bigest mistake my country made since the fall of the Soviet Union. In the Cold War no soviet soldier set foot in Romania and they offered us the tech to build tanks, planes and warships at insignificant prices. We were a significant weapons exporter country. We were actually a regional power with a 300000+ army capable of mobilaizing 1000000 trained soldiers due to conscription, hundreds of fighters, a strong navy in the BlackSea. NATO has given us 2 rust buckets called Frigates from the british boneyard which cost us a ton of money to equip for a minimum standard of warfare. 12 used F16s from the portugese plane cemetery at the same price as 12 new Gripens with a very good offset and transfer of tehnology. A lot of battle torn humvees from iraq and afghanistan that were more expensive to take back home than to buy new ones. Now we have american soldiers, jets and other foreign military equipment stationed here including missile bases to intercept russian nukes. ...moreV 1 Comment
Honestly we should just let Russia annex Bulgaria. It's a win win for everyone. We spend way to much money defending them through NATO and they don't want to be in the organization to begin with, they like Russia better. This is the same situation with most Eastern European countries.
Bulgaria should leave Nato immediately. This country has always been a friend of Russia. Russia liberated Bulgaria from the Ottoman Empire once. The language is Slavian, the church is Slavian. The Bulgarian people are nice people. The politicians are corrupt and only follow the money.
The NATO goal is to kill all Russians. Obviously Germany eager to repeat the bid, Bulgaria once followed her a lost. Why would Bulgaria would repeat the former mistake?
We are Bulgarians, that means we are southern slavic orthodox Christians. Currently this military alliance called NATO is targeting our slavic orthodox Christian brothers in Russia and Ukraine, this is unacceptable and offensive. The bonds between Bulgaria, Russia and Ukraine span more than 10 centuries. Ever since we joined NATO and the EU our economy has become stagnant only recently surpassing 1985 purchasing power, in order to join NATO we had to demilitarize and get rid of our deterrents, in order to join the EU we had to dismantle our industrial base. Needless to say, this was a huge mistake that lowered our standard of living for decades. This alliance is archaic anyway, conventional warfare is a relic, nowadays war is being waged in the financial and cyber theaters. Gone are the days when millions of men and tanks clash face to face. Instead we have financiers speculating on prices and causing markets to crash, massive DDoS's bringing down government services, black-ops taking ...moreV 6 Comments
Spain should leave NATO it has never been under threat geographically, with the Soviet Union stayed vastly neutral, despite being a member. It was not to their interest. Now that Spain has regained its strength it should create its own military alliance with Latin America with the "Organization of Iberia-American States. To keep Anglo imperialism out of its cultural zone. Creating its own economical, military and cultural alliance would be in the best interest of Spain if it wants to be an influential nation, rather than puppet.
Spain is the most glorious country of the world and the mother land of the spanish empire but its got a corrupt monarcy and political class and its in full decadency just like the whole western world due to DEGENERATED USA..
Spain is just a third world crap of no importance.
I�'m spanish and understand than POTUS have better relations with Russians than europeans. We should leave NATO to USA, Israel and Arabia Saudi, the best friends of americans.V 5 Comments
Croatia should increase cooperation with Slavic countries, especially Russian Federation, as NATO has changed from a defensive alliance to an offensive alliance.
Croatia's progress is decreasing since we are a part of nato and eu. No wonder why all the young people are leaving this country.
The only country with worse relations to Croatia, next to the USA, is Serbia. - gilde24ever
This country should also leave Nato. Their politicians ware doing quite well at the moment, however they still don't have enough power to say NO.
They have better relations to Russia than to the USA. - gilde24ever
... Do I even need to explain my opinion? The foreign policy of the YOU.S. has gone rogue and is totally impulsive and stupid. I am a big believer of "Peace Through Strength." But American foreign policy has been "Expansionism through being the world bully." I realize people are going to call me a liberal or call me unpatriotic. I ask those people to please look at this situation with an open mind. I am a very patriotic person and very proud to be an American. However it's foreign policy is nothing to be proud of. Just look at history. We have been carrying the rest of the world on our backs ever since WW1 and in some ways before then. We waste all this money overseas and then don't have enough money to fund things back here. I suppose our government would rather fund overseas wars and genocide than help people here at home. For example, While we are over here debating healthcare, Iraq and Afghanistan both have FREE universal healthcare funded by yours truly, the ...more
The US must focus on defending its own citizens from any potential threats, rather than defending other countries from non existent ones. Taxes are wasted on having military presence overseas, taxes which could be used for education, infrastructure, etc. Besides, if the US were attacked, I highly doubt other NATO members would care, although I'm sure plenty of people would want the US to "defend" them if they were attacked. Many Europeans seem to be sick of US military presence in their countries, so why should we keep troops there? It's completely contrary to self determination, if they don't want us there, we should leave, as it is their right to choose what they want.
Most Americans are great people. They are just fooled by media that is controlled by small group of asses who is trying to take over the world. I bet if American clearly understood what really is happening around the world they would hate themselves for voting for those individuals that rule the country. So Americans please open your eyes and lose the stupidly aggressive football player attitude.
i hate youV 21 Comments
Best trained pilot many dogfights daily with the Turkish air force many times fist in the Nato exhibitions...
Greece joins Nato through political pressure and sold out politicians... Greek people is totally Against Nato and USA... So basically Greece is forced to join Nato. Right now Greece stays in Nato due to pressure USA apply via Turkey... There was an attempt by certain Politician to come to agreement with Russia... and we all now how it is finished... CIA makes him to leave the party and political scene for ever with terror tactics. One day we hope a politician will sacrifice his life for the good of this country..
Greece's Allies are NOT NATO. We where the first country forced on to this globalized plane since the original countries. NATO was the first phase of wiping out the Greek race and the most effective one.
Greece's ally is Russia. NOT the MONGOLS called turks or USA
Greeces economy is failing and so will they military. EU countries (many in NATO) have too keep bailing them out of their huge debt which weakens those NATO members.V 5 Comments
Britain should pull out of this broken organization. NATO should be ashamed of showing support for the downing of a Russian bomber by Turkey. I certainly would not want Britan to Play any part in ganging up against the only country who is constructively removing a common foe in ISIS. I'm afraid it is Russia who holds the moral high ground and we should drop any allegiance any country who behaves in such a way that Turkey has. Politicians are playing a game of RISK with their counties and poorly informed public. With recent events, people are being overloaded with in bad news. Now the people need to research what is really going on with World and who is really causing everything to go wrong. The real news and information is in plain sight on the net, just Google it.
Britain should leave this broken organisation. NATO should be ashamed of showing support for the downing of a Russian bomber by Turkey. I certainly would not want Britan to Play any part in ganging up against the only country who is constructively removing a common foe in ISIS. I'm afraid it is Russia who holds the moral high ground and we should drop any allegiance any country who behaves in such a way that Turkey has. Politicians are playing a game of RISK with their counties and poorly informed public. With recent events, people are being overloaded with in bad news. Now the people need to research what is really going on with the World and who is really causing everything to go wrong. The information is in plain sight on the net, just Google it.
We (Britain) need NATO for self defense but the bullying of one country (Russia) by other countries (NATO) shouldn't be accepted especially since Russia is fighting Isis with us. NATO celebrated the shooting down of a Russian fighter by Turkey that angered Russia.
The UK needs to quit being focused on protecting other people of other nations. And If America is so powerful it won't hurt if the UK leaves.V 8 Comments
Canada pays a disproportionately high amount for being in NATO. Domestic terrorist threats are raised due to association with other nato members (usa especially). Canada faces little threat from abroad and thus is paying for intervention without benefit. A non-nato Canada could resume their previous role as mediators and peacekeepers which is more beneficial to the international community than Canada's role in nato.
Times are changing, and the US economy is going down like a sinking ship. I don't believe in backing an eventual looser, especially when it was that looser arrogantly went around the world bullying everyone; why should Canada be dragged into the troubles the US started? Canada doesn't want wars, it's enough we have to do battle every year with a force of nature called winter.
We need to create sane, intelligent, circumspect relations with Russia, China, and the rest of the world. NATO is the posse for Washingtons bullying and warmongering. This ugly coalition needs to be broken up for the sake of world peace. Since WW2 the US, often backed by NATO has killed over 3 million people. Time for some sanity. NATO has proven time and again, that they do not respect the sovereignty of other nations. As a Canadian, we are shamed for belonging to this band of thugs.
We just keep throwing ourselves into wars, we should support the UN's peacekeeping missions and not America's constant war of aggression on the world.V 1 Comment
It's a dictatorship since Viktor Orban came to power.
Well first of all... Even if we wanted Iran in NATO they would not be able to join. It's called the "North Atlantic Treaty Organization" for a reason. Iran is in the Middle East and nowhere near the Eurozone, North America, or even the Atlantic Ocean. Now let me tell you why this wouldn't work anyways. Iran is an Islamic republic that has a rough past with the West and rough relations in general. Russia has better relations with Iran than the West does... Just look at those S-300 missiles they are selling to them... And how they're propping up iran's ally Assad up in Syria. It's called geopolitical chess... Do your research. Also even if Iran were our ally it wouldn't help us at all. It wouldn't block out the Caspian Sea... That's unrealistic for a lot of reasons and it's pretty self explanatory. I agree it would be good to have better relations with Iran but I don't believe there is a safe, humane, or correct way to do this at the time (& yes the Iran Nuclear Deal was and is a ...more
Iran is having difficulties keeping its self save let alone other countries safe.
NATO was created agaist Soviets and the best way to keep Russia's borders tight, better NATO let Iran to join and make Russia with less friends in Middle East and close doors to Russia over Caspian sea
Iran is islamicV 3 Comments
They are only used by the USA to spy out Russia and Belarus. - gilde24ever
NATO states are just puppets of USA
I disagree, Poland is the strongest NATO's country at the moment, and it shields the rest of the NATO in case of invasion from Russia. Russia's door are closed to Europe so far there is a NATO member like Poland. The last few years Poland was building up it's army while ignorant Baltic country's like Denmark with almost no defense won't spend a penny on defenses claiming that it is NATO's duty to protect them.
Poland and the Baltics are most vocal of war with Russia, whereas Russia rejects such claims. Blindly they follow the US rhetoric of "Russian Agression", making statements that even Reagan would have found ridiculous. They are not beneficial to NATO, in fact, they are one of its biggest threats.V 1 Comment
The reason that this organization was created was because of fear from the Soviet Union. Arch enemies back in the 20th century.
What? The whole reason NATO was created in the first place was to combat the Soviet Union in case of an emergency.
Anyone with minimum knowledge of history and geography knows this is true.
Yes becomes the soviet union is totatlly not dead
It should leave NATO with Spain and form a military alliance with Latin America. Maybe by reforming the "Organization of Iberia-American States", thus creating a cultural alliance and protecting its sphere of influence from further Anglo Imperialism. NATO only serves the interest of North American and Northern Europe.
Portugal has good relations with the USA and with powerful countries like France and England so it will not leave!
Same as Spain, they have better relations with Lationamerica especially Brazil. - gilde24ever
Trump supports serbia? Wow... Trump supports Kosovo and that triggers a automatic red flag for serbia
Albania should leave NATO because it is are too weak to attack a country like Serbia or Greece. Now even USA doesn't care about them because Trump supports Serbia. When Albania leaves NATO, it will be completly destroyed by its neighbours, and I can not wait to see that.
Albania should never leave NATO
As It Doesn't Need It.
The Russian Federation has no right being in NATO. NATO was created to stop Russians! Why are they in it?
Russia is not in NATO
Russia is NOT in NATO. Do some research. Now let me take you back in time to the 1980's when you weren't alive yet. The Berlin Wall was a symbol seperating the East from the west, communism from capitalism, oppression from democracy. Once a great man named Ronald Reagan put an end to that and the wall was tore down. Eventually the Soviet Union fell in the early 1990's. Eastern European countries once Soviet members were then free. (Ex:Ukraine,Poland,Romania,Bulgaria,etc.) Many of those countries trying to escape their past ran to NATO for protection. Russia was mainly what they were afraid of. Russia never joined NATO but today they do work together on terrorism prevention cooperation even its not highly heard of. NATO and Russia however have been rivals in the past and I believe it will be this way in the future unless something major changes.
Doesn't need it
The Netherlands should leave, since the NATO is NOT to be trusted with the USA at the head. Netherlands need to wake up.
I don't see why our soldiers should die for American interests? Either we should work with our European partners or we should re-assume the position we held prior to 1940: friendship with all, alliance with none (armed neutrality).
Does not need it
Does not need it
Lost more than won
Time to build a EU army. NATO not needed anymore, especially since France is a major nuclear power and has the biggest stockpile of uranium on Earth. Moreover, if you consider the military gear EU countries are able to build, US military power isn't necessary, in fact, especially in the aircraft and missile industries, EU-made gear even ends superior.
Another point is that USA are using NATO to lever on EU internal politics and for their geopolitical view while EU, which is a bigger economical power than USA is viewed as their vassal and moreover, these geopolitical interests are contradicting the EU ones, i.e. the US-backed coup in Ukraine or the US/UK made troubles in Syria and Libya which provocated a gigantic refugee crisis and not counting having more than once pushed a NATO intervention against coutries that weren't threats at all for the EU and even the USA.
EU shall stop helping USA will to rule the world including ourseleves. Remember what Charles DeGaulle said : "USA ...more
After WW2 was over President Truman of the US signed a defense treaty with Japan stating Japan's military can only be used for self defense and that the United States would defend Japan if involved in war. This was good for security back then but now it is useless and even a liability. Japanese citizens are nationalistic and don't want US troops on their soil and US citizens don't want their tax dollars defending other countries. I say let Japan make its own decisions and stand up for itself... The threat is changing... Change your strategy.
Japan can't join NATO its in the Pacific, and besides with the resurgence of Japanese patriotism, it should form its own standing military, no this pitiful 'self defense force'. It would be a powerhouse and would not rely on western protection.
Along with Turkey this country funds various terrorist organizations and is a liability not an asset for the west in many ways. I say end all agreements and partnerships with them active immediately.
Somalia should leave
Djibouti is by far an extremely powerful country. Has the most beautiful culture and food and nato is threatening to invade djibouti but djibouti is far to powerful to lose againts nato and every single other country in the world. Djibouti is a superpower able to defeat every single country, nato is threatening them and they need to leave!
Djibouti is the most powerful nation on earth. Djibouti has amazing culture food and tradition, nato is threatening to invade djibouti but nato is nothing to djibouti. Djibouti could defeat the whole world easily with it's high economy high GDP and a amazing military. Djibouti needs to stop showing support for nato and leave nato now!
Almost no defenses, no willingness to build up strong strong army, and Danish claim it is NATO's duty to protect them. A country that won't defend it self does not belong in NATO. In case of war Denmark will again surrender without a fight.
Time to go massive shale gas fracking everywhere! The time they had the whole world by the ball with their oil is coming to an end, it's also time to stop closing eyes on what they are doing : this regime is the shame of humanity, this is even worse than apartheid-driven South Africa was as they didn't used hundreds of billions to spread their sick ideology worldwide and to fund terrorism on a never seen scale.
If there was a regime change to do before any other, Saudi Arabia should have been first targeted instead of Iraq, Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, etc etc etc.
Worst idea ever, they are whats wrong with humanity, continuing to live in barbaric conservative values that are long gone from the rest of the globe.
Terrible human rights record, funds terrorism, and does nothing to help the west so why are we defending them?
Mexico should never join NATO, it would just be a puppet of Anglo influences. Just look how they treat Southern Europeans and Turkish members. If anything it should be promoting Pan-Americanism with the other Latin American nations, maybe a military alliance with them would be the best foreign policy.
Vote for Donald Trump!
Finland is NOT in NATO. Who put this here?
SO STUUUPID BUT NOT AS STUUUPID AS TRUMPLAND!
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