Countries Who Should Leave the NATOThis is a list of countries who will hopefully leave the NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) immediately, these countries have stronger ties with the Islamic world and East-Asia than the USA, Britain or France has.
It would be only good for their economy, independence and especially for their reputation.
Turkeys hate for the west will be in my opinion the trigger to a serious confrontation, it scares me to think that NATO and the U.K have such close ties with a country that openly supports terrorist groups and bombs those triying to stop its spreading... They are not our allies, for the contrary. Their policies put the whole of the world at risk, the media blind us into thinking that Russia are the terrible contra part in this ordeal, these games with Russia will end up quite badly, as soon as Turks step foot in Syrian sovereign territory, the Russians have all the right to defend the territory, just as the Turks "defended theirs". But as always communism will be seen as the worlds evil if such happens.
Yes, I am Turkish. And I don't see any benefit coming from NATO to Turkey. Instead US and larger European countries benefit from Turkey. Turkey's strategic location makes them want to keep Turkey in. I wish we could get out of NATO. But I know they won't let us go (at least for now). We can protect our country against any enemy in any state. We don't need you. By the way, kurds are not innocent (at least most of them). They are villagers and farmers during day time, and terrorists at night time. You keep talking. You know nothing about the conditions in Turkey. Come and spend a long time in Turkey, especially in Eastern and southeastern parts, and lets see what you will say then. You are ill-informed by the popular media in your country who can impose their opinions on you by letting you see what they want you to see only. Nothing here is like what you see on your TVs. Maybe you can wake up one day, but I really don't think so.
I'm a turkish guy at 25.
Firstly I say that NATO needs Turkey and Turkey needs NATO so europe as well. Because of we re located so strategical location as georaphical and cultural. One side is europe ( u call that homeland of civilization)(of course christianity) and the other side is medial east (place where has nonstop wars and terrorism)( Islam) so I can say easyly Turkey protect europe and NATO from dangers of medial east. Turkey is a crowded, powerful, historical country. Most of people that talks about Turkey, hates from Turkey I'm sure most of them do not know where Turkey and Syria are on map. While they don't know anything about Turkey and medial east, they talk about everything.
For example. We don't fight and kill Kurds even you may not know that most of the Kurd population live in Turkey about 10-15 million and we live together for 1000 years.But we have a terrible of PKK for 30 years, they re terror group in Turkey, Iraq,Iran and Syria. They killed thousands of ...more
Seems people here who post can't speak proper English, I am gonna assume most of you are Turkish, and even though it hurts me to generalize, it is too likely to be true. Yes, Turkey has the 2nd largest military, but their military budget isn't up to par with half the countries in NATO. As some people do not know, from what I gather, NATO is a defensive alliance. Any aggressive operation basically makes Turkey ineligible from dismissal of protection, such as the shooting down of Russian planes. So if Russia declares war on Turkey that has a stick up it's ass and thinks it's safe, know that NATO isn't obligated to defend Turkey from the 2nd most powerful army on earth. Besides that, if a campaign of aggressive land grab happens after ISIS, NATO members will probably rearm the Kurds to keep the balance, since they are a terrorist organization (as if Turkey didn't purge them and started it) that's local. You guys just vote for Erdogan and become Islamist, and go the route of becoming a ...more
"If Germany goes it will give strength to other nations to leave the USA's tyrannical sphere of influence. The USA is like a wife abuser, what is needed is for one of its stronger victims to stand up and say enough is enough and encourage others"
Germany was torn apart by the allied bastards. Germany would rather side with Russia and get the hell out of NATO, the countries who blamed them for a war they never started and never held the other guilty parties responsible.
Don't think there's a realistic chance to leave, there's no real independency to USA, still today. Unfortunately they are political and military weak although they are economically big in Europe.
If Germany wants to defend itself against the Russian Invasion that will come, it must raise its own army. I don't care about "Nazi domination" Germany should be allowed to defend itself.
Yes Italy should definitely leave Nato because it has become a unilaterally-controlled alliance driven by its major player's interest. United States are a literally hijacked country by a bunch of slimy disconnected sociopaths who do not represent their fabulous people, they just lick each other's asses while playing golf together, whose only goal is destabilizing the world to control it. It's not the Home of the Brave anymore and has become a dangerous ally that could drag all of us to hell. It's up to US people take back control of their great Country.
Italy should leave the Nato simply because it has no right to be part of it. Did you forget that they are FASCIST and fought against Allies, killed 6 millions of jews, and was protagonist of the biggest genocide of the World? when Germany was finally losing the war, what did Italy? they BETRAYED their former ally, and sided with US and UK, against dying Germany. Can we trust such Honorless cowards?
Italy has a strong export and economical ties with Russia and China, a relationship that could be improved after a more transparent neutrality policy and a more independent administration of foreign affairs and wars.
Of course yes, Italy is the scum of Europe, a strong Europe is needed for fighting along with US.
I agree, NATO was the bigest mistake my country made since the fall of the Soviet Union. In the Cold War no soviet soldier set foot in Romania and they offered us the tech to build tanks, planes and warships at insignificant prices. We were a significant weapons exporter country. We were actually a regional power with a 300000+ army capable of mobilaizing 1000000 trained soldiers due to conscription, hundreds of fighters, a strong navy in the BlackSea. NATO has given us 2 rust buckets called Frigates from the british boneyard which cost us a ton of money to equip for a minimum standard of warfare. 12 used F16s from the portugese plane cemetery at the same price as 12 new Gripens with a very good offset and transfer of tehnology. A lot of battle torn humvees from iraq and afghanistan that were more expensive to take back home than to buy new ones. Now we have american soldiers, jets and other foreign military equipment stationed here including missile bases to intercept russian nukes. ...more
After being robbed by USA and our western"allies" we don't need to also die in wars defending their filthy business interests. Romania needs to be neutral.
Romania is a very weak country. Their politicians are puppets on a string. It will remain in Nato.
Because most people commenting here about romania can't even point it on the map...
We are Bulgarians, that means we are southern slavic orthodox Christians. Currently this military alliance called NATO is targeting our slavic orthodox Christian brothers in Russia and Ukraine, this is unacceptable and offensive. The bonds between Bulgaria, Russia and Ukraine span more than 10 centuries. Ever since we joined NATO and the EU our economy has become stagnant only recently surpassing 1985 purchasing power, in order to join NATO we had to demilitarize and get rid of our deterrents, in order to join the EU we had to dismantle our industrial base. Needless to say, this was a huge mistake that lowered our standard of living for decades. This alliance is archaic anyway, conventional warfare is a relic, nowadays war is being waged in the financial and cyber theaters. Gone are the days when millions of men and tanks clash face to face. Instead we have financiers speculating on prices and causing markets to crash, massive DDoS's bringing down government services, black-ops taking ...more
Absolute nonsense! Russia is historically THE NUMBER ONE ENEMY OF Bulgaria.
Unfortunately there is a significant Russophile presence in Bulgaria, which is contrary to the national interest of the country. Russia did not liberate Bulgaria. Russia's political and historical ambitions have always been to capture the Bosphorus and Istanbul. Bulgaria was supposed to be a Balkan Enclave to further Russian domination of the Balkans.
"Bulgaria has strong ethnic and linguistic ties with Russia. Russo-Bulgarian relationship has historically been very strong. The majority of Bulgarians feel their country should be allined with the Russian sphere of influence. Bulgarians feel dissatisfied with EU and NATO politics towards Russia and towards their own country. Treating us like second class citizens is not "European"."
Honestly we should just let Russia annex Bulgaria. It's a win win for everyone. We spend way to much money defending them through NATO and they don't want to be in the organization to begin with, they like Russia better. This is the same situation with most Eastern European countries.
Spain should leave NATO it has never been under threat geographically, with the Soviet Union stayed vastly neutral, despite being a member. It was not to their interest. Now that Spain has regained its strength it should create its own military alliance with Latin America with the "Organization of Iberia-American States. To keep Anglo imperialism out of its cultural zone. Creating its own economical, military and cultural alliance would be in the best interest of Spain if it wants to be an influential nation, rather than puppet.
Spain is the most glorious country of the world and the mother land of the spanish empire but its got a corrupt monarcy and political class and its in full decadency just like the whole western world due to DEGENERATED USA..
I'm spanish and understand than POTUS have better relations with Russians than europeans. We should leave NATO to USA, Israel and Arabia Saudi, the best friends of americans.
Spain will remain in Nato. Spain is a weak player. It can't think by themselves anymore.
Croatia should increase cooperation with Slavic countries, especially Russian Federation, as NATO has changed from a defensive alliance to an offensive alliance.
Croatia's progress is decreasing since we are a part of nato and eu. No wonder why all the young people are leaving this country.
The only country with worse relations to Croatia, next to the USA, is Serbia.
This country should also leave Nato. Their politicians ware doing quite well at the moment, however they still don't have enough power to say NO.
They have better relations to Russia than to the USA.
Everyone hates the United States because they know it is the best country in the world with the most influence and the most power. The hate that comes from foreigners is pretty pathetic considering the U.S. saved the world from fascism and imperialism many times in the past and continues to defend innocent people from the growing threat of terrorism. Unlike many weak European countries, the United States has the courage to stand up for itself and that is why no one wants to attack us. America is what is protecting the world from terrorism and destruction, so hating the country that protects all others is a pretty stupid thing to do.
The US must focus on defending its own citizens from any potential threats, rather than defending other countries from non existent ones. Taxes are wasted on having military presence overseas, taxes which could be used for education, infrastructure, etc. Besides, if the US were attacked, I highly doubt other NATO members would care, although I'm sure plenty of people would want the US to "defend" them if they were attacked. Many Europeans seem to be sick of US military presence in their countries, so why should we keep troops there? It's completely contrary to self determination, if they don't want us there, we should leave, as it is their right to choose what they want.
... Do I even need to explain my opinion? The foreign policy of the YOU.S. has gone rogue and is totally impulsive and stupid. I am a big believer of "Peace Through Strength." But American foreign policy has been "Expansionism through being the world bully." I realize people are going to call me a liberal or call me unpatriotic. I ask those people to please look at this situation with an open mind. I am a very patriotic person and very proud to be an American. However it's foreign policy is nothing to be proud of. Just look at history. We have been carrying the rest of the world on our backs ever since WW1 and in some ways before then. We waste all this money overseas and then don't have enough money to fund things back here. I suppose our government would rather fund overseas wars and genocide than help people here at home. For example, While we are over here debating healthcare, Iraq and Afghanistan both have FREE universal healthcare funded by yours truly, the government of the ...more
The USA should leave NATO because it has devolved into an alliance that defends the EU and most EU countries are hostile to the United States. Also the EU countries are useless because they are degenerate welfare states and will always remain too weak to project meaningful force outside Europe. The primary future conflicts are between China, US, Russia and possibly India. Russia has a tiny stagnant economy and is surrounded by enemies while the US has a vibrant economy but smaller than China in the long run.
The smart strategic move for the USA would be:
1) US withdraws from NATO and offers alliance/free trade to remaining European states that leave the EU. The EU will then disintegrate.
2) Russia may pick up some EU members states as allies but will be too weak to compete with its neighbors.
3) USA offers alliance to Russia, India and remaining British commonwealth members against China.
4) China sees it can't win so a world government forms.
5) Note that the ...more
Greece joins Nato through political pressure and sold out politicians... Greek people is totally Against Nato and USA... So basically Greece is forced to join Nato. Right now Greece stays in Nato due to pressure USA apply via Turkey... There was an attempt by certain Politician to come to agreement with Russia... and we all now how it is finished... CIA makes him to leave the party and political scene for ever with terror tactics. One day we hope a politician will sacrifice his life for the good of this country..
Greece's Allies are NOT NATO. We where the first country forced on to this globalized plane since the original countries. NATO was the first phase of wiping out the Greek race and the most effective one.
Greece's ally is Russia. NOT the MONGOLS called turks or USA
Spend huge amount of money just to help imperialism of nato
Nato crates the wars arround globe. Why a poor country to spend resources to help them ill other nations? Yugoslavia? Libya? Syria? Iraq?
Best trained pilot many dogfights daily with the Turkish air force many times fist in the Nato exhibitions...
Britain should pull out of this broken organization. NATO should be ashamed of showing support for the downing of a Russian bomber by Turkey. I certainly would not want Britan to Play any part in ganging up against the only country who is constructively removing a common foe in ISIS. I'm afraid it is Russia who holds the moral high ground and we should drop any allegiance any country who behaves in such a way that Turkey has. Politicians are playing a game of RISK with their counties and poorly informed public. With recent events, people are being overloaded with in bad news. Now the people need to research what is really going on with World and who is really causing everything to go wrong. The real news and information is in plain sight on the net, just Google it.
Britain should leave this broken organisation. NATO should be ashamed of showing support for the downing of a Russian bomber by Turkey. I certainly would not want Britan to Play any part in ganging up against the only country who is constructively removing a common foe in ISIS. I'm afraid it is Russia who holds the moral high ground and we should drop any allegiance any country who behaves in such a way that Turkey has. Politicians are playing a game of RISK with their counties and poorly informed public. With recent events, people are being overloaded with in bad news. Now the people need to research what is really going on with the World and who is really causing everything to go wrong. The information is in plain sight on the net, just Google it.
NATO, or the USA run gang, has no purpose any longer. The USA have no clue of what the dangers are to Europe, just as they had no clue with Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Palestine and the list goes on.
The only reason for NATO is for the USA to have bases from which to operate and in the process 'drag' in all other members. The USA called Ghadaffi a terrorist financier when they gave 3 million to the IRA, yet the USA had been openly funding the IRA for decades. Indeed, just listening to some of the Kennedy speaches just showed how ignorant he and the USA are in fact over international affairs.
We all have our defences. Russia is part of Europe and we should build links with them and their fight against the terror of the Islamists, who are funded and supported by Saudi Arabia, and Ally and major trading partner. Just read Thehistoryofislam.com and open eyes. The USA does not care about its own people, sacrificing them in idiotic games to show their military power. Try building links to ...more
After Brexit it would be offensive if we stay in another bureaucratic threat to British sovereignty. Since the EU was a threat to our own economic independence then surely the loss of control over our armed forces should be as just as much a threat. We gained independence from Franco-German dominated EU not so we can become a US dependency. I am not anti-American or anti-European just pro-British. Time for another exit from international threats to our sovereignty
Canada pays a disproportionately high amount for being in NATO. Domestic terrorist threats are raised due to association with other nato members (usa especially). Canada faces little threat from abroad and thus is paying for intervention without benefit. A non-nato Canada could resume their previous role as mediators and peacekeepers which is more beneficial to the international community than Canada's role in nato.
We need to create sane, intelligent, circumspect relations with Russia, China, and the rest of the world. NATO is the posse for Washingtons bullying and warmongering. This ugly coalition needs to be broken up for the sake of world peace. Since WW2 the US, often backed by NATO has killed over 3 million people. Time for some sanity. NATO has proven time and again, that they do not respect the sovereignty of other nations. As a Canadian, we are shamed for belonging to this band of thugs.
Times are changing, and the US economy is going down like a sinking ship. I don't believe in backing an eventual looser, especially when it was that looser arrogantly went around the world bullying everyone; why should Canada be dragged into the troubles the US started? Canada doesn't want wars, it's enough we have to do battle every year with a force of nature called winter.
Canada should leave NATO. We always end up taking part in ruining other countries. Logically the United States of America is equally a threat to Canada as is Russia. If the Americans elect a demagogue who want to annex Canadian territory being part of NATO wouldn't prevent that.
The reason that this organization was created was because of fear from the Soviet Union. Arch enemies back in the 20th century.
What? The whole reason NATO was created in the first place was to combat the Soviet Union in case of an emergency.
Anyone with minimum knowledge of history and geography knows this is true.
1. The soviet union is gone 2. They were never in NATO and 3. Why is this on the list
It's a dictatorship since Viktor Orban came to power.
Well first of all... Even if we wanted Iran in NATO they would not be able to join. It's called the "North Atlantic Treaty Organization" for a reason. Iran is in the Middle East and nowhere near the Eurozone, North America, or even the Atlantic Ocean. Now let me tell you why this wouldn't work anyways. Iran is an Islamic republic that has a rough past with the West and rough relations in general. Russia has better relations with Iran than the West does... Just look at those S-300 missiles they are selling to them... And how they're propping up iran's ally Assad up in Syria. It's called geopolitical chess... Do your research. Also even if Iran were our ally it wouldn't help us at all. It wouldn't block out the Caspian Sea... That's unrealistic for a lot of reasons and it's pretty self explanatory. I agree it would be good to have better relations with Iran but I don't believe there is a safe, humane, or correct way to do this at the time (& yes the Iran Nuclear Deal was and is a ...more
Iran is having difficulties keeping its self save let alone other countries safe.
I strongly support NATO and I hate people saying that ''Russia is better'' or ''Nato sucks'', But having Iran in NATO would just be weird.
Iran is islamic
I disagree, Poland is the strongest NATO's country at the moment, and it shields the rest of the NATO in case of invasion from Russia. Russia's door are closed to Europe so far there is a NATO member like Poland. The last few years Poland was building up it's army while ignorant Baltic country's like Denmark with almost no defense won't spend a penny on defenses claiming that it is NATO's duty to protect them.
Poland and the Baltics are most vocal of war with Russia, whereas Russia rejects such claims. Blindly they follow the US rhetoric of "Russian Agression", making statements that even Reagan would have found ridiculous. They are not beneficial to NATO, in fact, they are one of its biggest threats.
True. There is no Poland after WWII, first in hands of Soviets, then Americans and Eastern countries, now in hands of Germany and EU. No autonomy, puppet country.
They are only used by the USA to spy out Russia and Belarus.
As It Doesn't Need It.
Russia is NOT in NATO. Do some research. Now let me take you back in time to the 1980's when you weren't alive yet. The Berlin Wall was a symbol seperating the East from the west, communism from capitalism, oppression from democracy. Once a great man named Ronald Reagan put an end to that and the wall was tore down. Eventually the Soviet Union fell in the early 1990's. Eastern European countries once Soviet members were then free. (Ex:Ukraine,Poland,Romania,Bulgaria,etc.) Many of those countries trying to escape their past ran to NATO for protection. Russia was mainly what they were afraid of. Russia never joined NATO but today they do work together on terrorism prevention cooperation even its not highly heard of. NATO and Russia however have been rivals in the past and I believe it will be this way in the future unless something major changes.
The Russian Federation has no right being in NATO. NATO was created to stop Russians! Why are they in it?
Russia is not in NATO
Every glorious Montenegrin with the love of his fearless ancestors and proud legacy knows where Montenegro belongs and where it does NOT. Guess which category NATO is.
Hang in there brothers. The vassals and collaborators will fall.
Without Russian support in the 19th century, Montenegro wouldn't have existed as an independent state.
Montenegrin people hate NATO and nobody benefits from Montenegro being a part of NATO
It should leave NATO with Spain and form a military alliance with Latin America. Maybe by reforming the "Organization of Iberia-American States", thus creating a cultural alliance and protecting its sphere of influence from further Anglo Imperialism. NATO only serves the interest of North American and Northern Europe.
Portugal has good relations with the USA and with powerful countries like France and England so it will not leave!
We don't get anything from being in NATO. Who would attack us? We'd make a better alliance with the CPLC.
Same as Spain, they have better relations with Lationamerica especially Brazil.
Albania should leave NATO because it is are too weak to attack a country like Serbia or Greece. Now even USA doesn't care about them because Trump supports Serbia. When Albania leaves NATO, it will be completly destroyed by its neighbours, and I can not wait to see that.
Trump supports serbia? Wow... Trump supports Kosovo and that triggers a automatic red flag for serbia
Albania should never leave NATO
I don't see why our soldiers should die for American interests? Either we should work with our European partners or we should re-assume the position we held prior to 1940: friendship with all, alliance with none (armed neutrality).
The Netherlands should leave, since the NATO is NOT to be trusted with the USA at the head. Netherlands need to wake up.
They have better relationship with russia
Doesn't need it
Why does Iceland need to be in NATO? They don't have an army, the people are against NATO membership, and it just gives the United States an excuse to militarise the country (They are trying to reopen Keflavík air base) and drag it into unneccesary conflict.