Top Ten Dragon Ball Characters That Shouldn't Be So PowerfulEvilAngel There are a few characters that shouldn't have been so powerful compared to the other characters because some power ups didn't make sense. Easily the majority were brilliant and made sense but there were a few questionable moments and characters.
The Top Ten
Oh my God, what a lame, pathetic ending the first Broly movie had. Broly was there absolutely destroying everyone with ease, and then somehow all Goku has to do is take a bit of power from the half-dead Z Fighters, and he is able to beat Broly with one punch. Who in the world thought that was a good idea? It ruined an otherwise brilliant battle. Even if Goku put all the energy into one punch, it still shouldn't have even hurt Broly, nevermind beat him. When the Z Fighters were attacking Broly together they couldn't hurt him, then they got pounded into the ground, then when they can't even move anymore they somehow give Goku enough energy to beat Broly. Now I'm a massive DBZ fan, I love this show so much, but this is just pushing it too far... The ending to Broly The Legendary Super Saiyan was PATHETIC. - EvilAngel
Well technically in the movie, where goku punched Brody was his blind point as he was stabbed there as a baby. So it could be possible that while he is unstoppable, like every other villain he lost due to his weak point. But I still think it's makes no sense
Well technically, where Goku punched Broly would be his most vulnerable spot. Sorta like his Achilles Heel. He's invincible everywhere but get him in that spot and he's done. It still makes no sense how Goku knew where it was but punching him there probably dealt the 2nd biggest blow to the Legendary Super Saiyan (Right behind the Family Kamehameha). Plus he was obviously vulnerable as a baby and he got stabbed (emphasis on stabbed) there on orders from King Vegeta. But still it's messed up how Goku found out even with nobody telling him where that spot was.
I have no idea... Goku, battered to near death, after a point blank kamehameha did nothing, team work and taking the other Z fighters powers had done nothing, then a even more beaten up Vegeta lends a little energy and the whole thing is over in one punch. Doesn't work.
I don't like DBZ that much JUST BECAUSE people are WAY overpowered.Seriously.Naruto/Naruto Shipudden or Fairy Tail are balanced and that's why they're amazing.V 20 Comments
I pretty much made this list for Super Android 17. He's ridiculous. Who thought he'd be a good idea? The normal Android 17 can't even come close to a full power Super Saiyan 1 in power, Super Saiyan 2 would Destroy him with ease, and in the GT saga after all their training the Z fighters in their normal forms could beat Android 17, so how the hell does two Android 17's fusing become a match for Super Saiyan 4? He beats SS2 Vegeta, SS2 Gohan, Majuub (who is Uub fused with BUU for God's sake), SS Trunks and SS Goten with ease. He shouldn't even be able to beat one of them. It doesn't make sense. Even if the second Android 17 was made to be a lot stronger, Super 17 still shouldn't be that strong. The only logical explanation is that the second Android 17 was made much much stronger, but if that was the case then why should they bother fusing him with the regular Android 17 because it would make no difference. I'm sorry Super 17 fans, but to put it quite simply, SUPER ANDROID 17 DOES NOT ...more - EvilAngel
Super 17 is the most horribly conjured character in the entire dragon ball franchise. His origin and power make no sense at all. For shame on his creators!
Android 17 was originally supposed to be stronger than Cell; but something went wrong when Gero was building/programming him, so he remained at the under-powered level he is in in Z. (He was also too powerful for Gero to control even at that point, which is why he made 18 a tiny bit less powerful than him and didn't bother trying to do what he was planning with 17.) And when Gero and Myuu created Hell Fighter 17, his structure was able to fuse with 17's and bring him to his full potential, along with more power from being turned into a Machine Mutant...His story and creation could have been executed more gracefully, but he is by no means ridiculously overpowered.
Android 17 fused with another Android 17 = SS4 Goku
Uub (Reincarnation of Kid Buu but far stronger) fused with Majin Buu = Not Good enough to Fight Android 17...
Android 17 x 2 > Buu x 2? What?
I understand Vegito being insanely powerful, that's gonna be obvious because it's Goku fused with Vegeta, but even though the Pottara is a stronger type of fusion, Vegito still shouldn't be that strong. He owns Super Buu when Buu has absorbed Ultimate Gohan who is stronger than SS3 Goku, Goten and Trunks who are both Super Saiyans, and Piccolo, and Majin Buu who is much stronger than a SS2, and then there's the original Super Buu's powers too, so all that all together would logically be much stronger than Vegito, and yet the people making that saga apparently forgot that Super Buu had absorbed an insane amount of power, and decided that one fusion would be able to overpower all of that. Buu should at least be stronger than normal form Vegito - EvilAngel
Vegito is op'd, true, BUT, it does make sense. The way that DBZ has done fusion suggests that it not only simply augments the end results power, but it completely multiplies: by how much isn't clear. For example, Trunks and Goten would never be able to hold out against Buu... But the moment they fused, they had more then enough power to basically show off. When Goku and Vegeta were fighting Janemba, they couldn't make a dent... Fuse to Gogeta, and Janemba was severely outclassed and got virtually molested. So it makes perfect sense that Vegito is able to overpower Super Buu. One key thing to factor in with Gogeta AND Vegito is the sole fact that Goku is able to go SSJ3 which in theory would give a good power spike to the fusion.
I find there power is awesome and should stay the same way it is - gangstaboy345
The Kai's are practically gods who never for. They have been around for as long as they allow us to know. By them being gods along with their longevity; it's only natural for them to have a technique that overpower any foe. The two strongest sayians times a gods fusion technique. That speaks in volumes bruh.V 6 Comments
Goku and Vegeta were getting killed by janemba but when they fused they put no sweat into killing him.
The best fusion in the universe
A soul with good and evil always overpower one single sided soul
In child time veseta has given the power to goku. or gogeta s power is veseta s power.V 2 Comments
I hate her. A terrible ox. Without her, Gohan and Goten AND Goku would be much stronger ( She forced them to study and being a radish farmer instead of train). She thinks Gohan's studies is more important than Earth's existance. So if Gohan goes to school for a few days and then dies due to Earth's explosion and humanity's extinction,she's find with it? She nags and hurts Goku so many time, ignores him when he's near dead, obsessed with money, and if she hadn't forced Gohan to study, he would have been strong enough and defeated Cell immediately, thus prevents Goku's 7-year death. Furthermore, she forced Goku to marry her although he doesn't love her, what kind of girl that wants to marry a husband you love but he doesn't love you? And she's selfish as well that she scolds Gohan for wanting to save's Picollo's life, forced him to obey her, and when he can't because of her selfishness ( Even the peaceful Goku got irritated with her selfishness and arrogrance), she thought Gohan's is ...more
Why doesn't someone stand up to her?! Anyone in this show could easily wipe the floor with her!
She's their mother and wife why would they hit a mother or wife? Would you hit yours and disrespect and not listen to her right now I'm sure your stronger than your mother too that doesn't mean do that - Ssj3bardock
Just because you can beat somebody up doesn't mean you should or will...
If your mom told you to clean your room would you punch her in the face because you're stronger than her, and thus you shouldn't have to listen to her? - Mourningstar
"I think the strongest person in the Universe is mom." ~ Goten - SPMZDEV 6 Comments
Yes Vegeta did deserve it more! I get that he's probably cursed from all the crap he did but with the way that he trains Gotenks reaching Super Saiyan 3 first is ridiculous. I mean Gohan is understandable since he had this mysterious amazing power but this is too much.
It's unfair how he reached Super Saiyan 3 faster. I think Vegeta deserved it more than him and I don't even like Vegeta!
Okay the fact he reached Super Saiyan 3 before Vegeta blows. seriously it's just Trunks and Goten combined REALLY?! VEGETA DESERVED IT WHY DBZ WHYV 1 Comment
In previous Super Saiyan transformations, the Saiyans went through extreme emotional traumas. Goku's catalyst was the death of his best friend, Krillin. Vegeta dealt with an asteroid field that threatened his life. Gohan transformed due to the fear of Cell destroying his loved ones and his planet. Future Trunks achieved Super Saiyan after his mentor Gohan was killed by the Androids; Future Trunks' life was plagued by death and destruction. Goten and Trunks however, became Super Saiyans without earning it. They diluted the legendary transformation into a child's play thing. I call B.S. on that.
He's so cute, adorable and powerful. My second favourite characters in the series, along with Gohan ( My favorite is Goku, apparently and obviously)
The only reason he and Gohan was so strong was so that they can keep up with everyone else. If they started from the bottom (Like Goku) then they would have been nothing against the likes of Frieza, Cell or BUU!
... Goku is the strongest
The reason goten was so strong at a young age unlike goku is because goku had so much power in him when he gave birth to goten and that power goes down to him like gohan was super strong as a kid because of his dad's power as an adultV 8 Comments
The power of the shadow dragons in general makes no dang sense. They are supposed to be evil versions of shenron, which is a cool idea, but shenrons power level was only 250, and that divided by the 7 dragons brings it down to around 35 each. Even if you take "evil energy" into the equation (which is incredibly stupid), it probably wouldn't boost his power that much.
So even omega shenron with all the powers combined wouldn't be that strong, and certainly not strong enough to stand up to ssj4 Goku, whose power level numbers in the HUNDRED BILLIONS.
The creator of the Dragonball series said himself that he created power levels to prove how useless they are
Well shenron is a divine being and all of them are supposed to hold more power and hidden potential power then they appear to
OMEGA SHEN LONG?! Wow. This isn't Street Fighter, ya know. - MKBeastV 2 Comments
Really broly can kill them all because he can match there power level like he did Goku, Goku only went ssj and so did broly, only reason he die because Goku got more power form he's friends and broly didn't have enough time to match that so that's how he die and also if Goku was just alone Goku could have died, so broly is the most powerful one, he just have to match there power level
I don't get what people see in this character. First, no one Can hurt him at all, then all for sudden he gets defeated in one punch. I mean what is this?
Broly is the legendary super saiyan enough said, if a saiyan grunt like goku can beat buu and omega shenron then imagine what a legendary super saiyan can do
Broly is weak compared to buu omega shenron and even perfect cell - Ssj3bardock
With some Prozac, and a crap load of training, who knows? - LSSJV 11 Comments
His case is similar to Goten's. - Goku02
Vegeta should be stronger because he trains his butt off to overcome goku, but no matter how much he trains he will never be as strong as goku because goku is the main character and can even beat a saiyan prince
Mr. Loafer is too powerful for his own good, as he cannot even handle it properly.
He shouldn't be so powerful. He's a retarded overconfident idiot who always makes dumb decisions and mess up everyone's day.
He only lives because of gokuV 11 Comments
No.. She isn't OP.
But it's weird vegeta loses in ssj from android 18 in the cell saga though.. - Number18
I like Android 18 - koopatroopaandgoomba4ever
She is not OP. She had power similar to her brother #17. 18 beated ssj vegeta and? What now? Vegeta then had power a bit stronger than 19 though. My opinion
How she's just a android DAWM she can beat down the whole DAWM CITY!
Show me one Fused entity who has trained
Gogeta just formed out of nowhere, and disappeared after beating Janemba
Vegito was formed in the midst of battle
Gotenks on the other hand was formed and after that Gotenks trained as Gotenks, not Trunks and Goten as separate but as Gotenks.. Who knows how good fused fighters are at training, maybe if you train as a fused warrior you can get abrupt power increases,
Doesn't make sense to me. Goten and trunks were nowhere close to as strong as their fathers, and neither of them could turn even super saiyan 2, let alone super saiyan 3. How is it that when they fuse, they achieve super saiyan 3, and vegito can't when he is made up of two way stronger people, one can turn super saiyan 2 and the other can turn super saiyan 3?
He doesn't deserve to be that strong simply. Gotten and Trunks weren't nearly strong enough to have their fusion surpass Goku or vegeta..
Just like to put something out there: did trunks and goten train as trunks and goten or as gotenks? I think this would mske a diffferenceV 3 Comments
SSJ4 Is The Strongest Form Of SSJ, Thus He Is OP Because He Has Reached The Limits Of The Super Saiyan Transformation, Maybe If The Creator Creates SSJ5 Goku And Vegeta Won't Feel So OP That They Can Beat The Crap Out Of Everyone
Yeah, the only good thing I like about ssj4 is how they look. but the power, come on guys. Ssj 3 goku couldn't even touch Baby Vegeta, SSJ 4 totally kicked his ass. I was really looking forward to much better fighting in GT, I mean for the first 40 episodes, super saiyan ONE was used like three times, and I was looking forward to more SSJ 3 actio.
Dude you comment sucks to me they should be strong for is the best 4 number so you guys are dumb I don't think Frieda should be strong
Can't even tank hits from a raged Vegeta whereas Cell could. There is no way he should be rated above Vegito or others. Also, he has such a lazy and dumb design. A purple cat is beating Piccolo with chopsticks? He should stick to playing rock, papers, and scissors with Oolong instead.
He's supposed to be stupidly powerful due to that whole god theme in the new movie. I don't see how his strength is a big deal.
I cannot understand why people still insist on calling him bills. His name is Beerus. Also he is supposed to be overpowered. He is the GOD OF DESTRUCTION! - Rayzer
Seems like a cheap character to me. They should come up with The God of Gods of Saiyans and have them go at it. - LSSJV 10 Comments
Nowhere near as ridiculous as Super 17 is, but still pretty stupid, how can absorbing literally 3 or 4 pieces of Androids 14 and 15 (who were beaten by Super Saiyans) make Android 13 so strong? He gets to the point where he can't even be moved by the Super Saiyan's attacks, and then ONCE AGAIN the people who made this movie had to bring yet another lame ending into it simply because they can't think of any other way to kill him. So once again they use the Spirit Bomb, and somehow Goku actually absorbs it and destroys Super 13. After a while the movie ending got really lame because you got the feeling that no matter how hopeless the situation seemed, you'd know that the goodies would win because they could simply use the Spirit Bomb or Fusion, both of which became overused. Back in the day, back in the Frieza saga, fans would actually be on the edge and wouldn't know what is going to happen, whereas later on it got so stupid that nobody would really care because we all knew that the ...more - EvilAngel
Why didn't Goku kill cell the same way he did android 13? I love the show but some things just make no sense at all.
Not as silly as super 17 but really absorbing 2 androids that die by ssj can make you stronger? This is the worst android next to android 19 a pathetic android that got so much power it did not deserve
Super android 13 should be at one rank
I understand thisV 1 Comment
Why did they make some random dragon at the start of GT that was far stronger and bigger than the green original Shenron? How did they even do that? Surely if they could make this crazy dragon then they could make something that could kill any villains that come along - EvilAngel
Different dragon balls they were the black star and it says in the story that one was more powerful it wasn't random. - Ssj3bardock
There's more than one type of dragon on any show SMH.
Reasoning the fact he was strong so they could make it last but still 30 that's off the charts with goku can't belive that but cells I'll do calculations
Well it actually 6 17 and 30 and sometimes double there own power when they get hurt near death but really cells power level according to superdragonfly he was 21 million to 90 million a huge increase like seriously
I disagree with that one. Goku gone from a power level of 90.000 to 3.000.000 just because vegeta kicked his ass. Cell exploded himself and there was nothing of him left, so its fair
I think SPC is ok but we don't no how much a saiyans power is increased by it could be any number geez akira toriyama should of been specific with saiyan increase saiyans like goku and vegeta get damage to near death like 20 times through out the whole series only thing I can understand is the vegeta thing the 18,000-24,000 increase that is 6,000 so your saiyan if goku's power level was 6,000,000,000 it would be 66bill after small increaseV 2 Comments
This Bull that toriayama dares to call ultimate gohan.6-7 yrs of slacking off (depends if you find Bojack cannon) while vegeta and Goku pushed themselves to near death over and over and broke their limits over and over. I'll admit I wasn't thrilled that vegeta still wasn't on Gokus because that's bull and everyone knows it. When gohan got his ass handed to him by buu truthfully I saw that coming he had always been shown as someone who would slack off train whenever they got a chance so I was like eh. Then that bull the potential unleash comes along and what happens oh he's the strongest unfused character in the show now what! And what happens he s up with buu just like he did with cell and got his brother, mentor, and trunks absorb by buu then gets his ass handed to him AFTER fighting on the same level as buu (with the absorbed people I remind you) for a little bit and ends up messing up missing the earring and getting himself absorbed.
This character is nothing more than a ...more
Gohan would have reached that power if he trained for the 7 years that passed. His " hidden potential" is actually just what would have come if he would have trained. Gohan has been shown to be momentarily stronger than Goku during his childhood. Gohan surpassed Goku at 9 - 11 yrs. he would have been stronger than Goku regardless of the ssj3 transformation if he had trained those 7 years.
Very unfair to Goku and Vegeta, who intensely train all the time and still get surpassed by someone who barely trains (Gohan).
To anyone saying that Gohan would have been just as strong, regardless of the ritual, if he had trained for those 7 years;
Are we then to assume that Gohan, or any character for that matter, can simply do nothing but have their "potential unlocked"? And this alone would be enough to surpass some of the strongest fighters?
Don't get me wrong, I like Gohan as a character, especially his SSJ2 transformation, but this "unlock potential" feels kind of cheap. It was somewhat acceptable on Namek as it didn't make Gohan completely overpowered. However, the second time, when it was done by the Elder Kai, it just felt like an underhanded move to make Gohan stronger than SSJ3 Goku. I don't know, maybe I'm missing something.
Two major flaws with this one, one Trunks as USSJ is taking the the form and pushing pretty much all of the power meant for speed into strength. The form before this that both Vegeta and Trunks achieve is simply a lower example of this. They sacrificed some speed at this level, but ti didn't matter because they were already on par with incomplete cell's speed, so they could trade some speed for power which was where they were lacking. Number 2, the difference between fuision and simply adding multiple power sources is quite different. It's like tossing a huge bag of styrofoam on someone versus throwing a single brick. In DBZ, numbers don't really add up, this is quite simple to see as an easy example would be cell wiping out all of earth's military forces. As long as a character is superior, they can't be defeated no matter how many lower powers are thrown at them. But when multiple powers are combined into one, then it gives the merged being enough power to fight on equal level ...more
He isn't overpowered at all he's just slow.
Lol I don't even know what "ultra super saiyan" is
He is the main character he always finds away to be stronger
He deserve to be the strongest Because he trains hard and trains smart unlike vegata who does not train smartly
Goku is the smarter trainer, but Vegeta is a smarter fighter. If Vegeta had Goku's power, he'd kill Buu, Cell and even Frieza by himself. Especially Freiza. You probably didn't pay attention, but Future Trunks made the comment "I won't hold back like Goku did either." What does that tell you. Goku would of been wiped Freiza as a Super Saiyan.
Started from the bottom now he here
He started with a power level of like 20
In the same episode Super Saiyan 4 was fully introduced, they decide to give the villain a form that is as strong as a Super Saiyan 4... Oh, surprise surprise. Bet you didn't see that coming did you? Oh sorry, you did. I did. We all did. - EvilAngel
He just seems over powerd
Bruh just shut up. What you're saying makes no sense at all. He is still a full blood sayian with a tuffle fused with his DNA
WAIT, WHAT?! Why the hell is the Mouse Pokemon himself on a DBZ list? - ModernSpongeBobSucks
Pikachu is Pokémon, not DBZ.
I can't STOP LAUGHING - shawnmccaul22
Whis says each part of his body moves independently to fight
The amount of time it takes to send the signal from the brain to the muscles... Whis even eliminated that! That time is negligible.. But nope, whis's fights lie in the 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 second range
This dude girl is the fastest thing in the universe
He can even control time
He should be OP seeing that he is the teacher of the god of destruction, I wonder how many gods he has trained.
Bills States that he isn't the most powerful but that whis is his teacher. So obviously he is the STRONGEST. And if you don't agree with me well your wrong and not a true dbz fan
Anyone who uses the "You're not a true DBZ fan" argument deserves to be killed by Yamcha. - MissingUTAH
He is so OP and the weird thing is that I like him and his attitudes!
This girl can beat any goku character because she is too quick to hitV 4 Comments
He is the best he defeated great ape baby
By chill being the strongest in the universe at the time. It's only natural for a stronger force to eventually exist to stop it. It's called nature people
Bardock isn't OP. If you didn't notice, Chilled is in his first form when Bardock kills him. - MissingUTAH
Bardock isn't OP. If you didn't notice, Chilled is in his first form when Bardock kills him. - MissingUTAH
How did he go in the past was that real or was he dreamingV 2 Comments
How does Frieza who died against ssj 1 Goku and trunks come back and be as strong as super god Goku 1. They say he trained for 6 months but Goku trained his whole life and got god form and Frieza came out of nowhere and was stronger. Let me remind you that he said he never trained his whole that his powers where natural. So let him train for 6 months and he is as strong as a god.
Dummies. It's his genetics. Training would increase his power because he was already so strong. So he not an alien, but a mutant that was born with Super Saiyan at about 4/5 strength. You don't think that if he trained, he can get that strong. Then your dumb.
How does Frieza go from being WEAKER than Cell Saga Frieza to having god ki just by training. Dragon Ball Wish or some ritual would have made more sense. Maybe a canon Fifth Form...
To me it was kinda dumb for frieza to go from being molested by ssj Goku to having a god form to keep up with SSGSS. It made a good spark in the movie but Frieza trained for only 6 months with a guy who was outclassed, Tagoma, and couldn't fight back and have a good training session. How do you get God ki from that. You may say he was already close to being strong as a ssj at full power but even Goku and Vegeta couldn't get results that fast. And they are Saiyans. They had to train their whole lives just to be reconized by Whis and Beerus. Disagree or Agree Frieza shouldn't have had God ki that fast with a short matter of timeV 2 Comments
Yeah they/he shouldn't be so strong
I mean, come on people. Abo and Cado were pretty much weaklings. Goten and Trunks were already stronger by like 70%. They both fuse and SSJ3 Gotenks & SSJ1 Goku are weak? Come on.
In the first cooler movie he looked ridiculously weak! Sorry, but he was killed so fast.. - Number18
I agree, his base form is equal to freeza at 100%, and then he gets a transformation that multiplies his powers 40x practically overkill? Don't believe he's that strong, cooler planely states in the original japenese dub that Goku was strong enough to beat freeza in his base form before kaioken before super sayian, believing he was already witnessing a super sayians power, and then he throws his kaiokenx20 away like nothing after he transforms, cooler is uber strong for such an early villian, toei messed up on that one.
Um, Uub existences because Buu was reincarnated into a human giving him Buu's strength. Your just hating. Is it because he's new. Or maybe because he is of darker tone.
Goku saved the world and asked for a favor. I'm just gonna leave it at that lol
Uub is only an earthling, shoudlnt be that powerful, and majuub shouldn't exist at all
This glob of regen pink is just to powerful last time I watched dbz he just would never die and kept healing himself especially after his fat form
No way, nappa's not even powerful as vegeta, but he can hurt Goku real bad
I thought Nappa was cool. He's really underrated, and could get some more apreciation for being the first to take out almost every Z-Fighter out at once.
How is he overpowered? The only thing he did in the series was to die
He's not too op but the way he died so easily made me angry
Personally I think that if king cold somehow went 5th form he would be able to beat perfect cell
King cold was the coldest in the neighborhoodV 1 Comment
How the hell could a stupid machines, made out of Earth's supplies, be stronger than the strongest warriors in the entire Universe? Stronger than a Legendary being - Super Saiyan! Come on, that's retarded!
If someone could make 3 robots this strong, why the hell was there any need for some of the weaker ones?
Arale is to over powered a human robot rams you from the city to the desert
Well she is overpowered but she is not from dragon ball - samanime
WOW strongest character
AS strong as YAMCHA
Krillin 2 strong
I LOVE Raditz. He deserves more love.
Raditz needs love? He's a douchebag to everyone
Yeah Raditz is awesome it sucks that he is so weak though,hope they make him come back in the end of super and be all like SSGSS3
The reason he was weak is because he had to be the first enemy in dbz plus he was a low class sayian soilder with power level equal to a saibamen:1,200
But if it was night when Goku and piccolo was fighting raditz then raditz would won because he went great ape which boost his power up tenfold so 1,200 goes to 12,000.
They were trying to keep piccolo a relevant fighting character for as long as possible but it doesn't make any sense
He was only as strong as 17 when he fused with kami
Piccolo should fuse with his inner shenron
What? he should be strongerV 2 Comments
She is not even born and she could turn Goku turn super say in god
Too op, unneeded
He's the one who beat Cell, beat Beebus the God of Destruction, AND can go Super Saiyan even though he's human! That's just too much!
So, even SSJ3, who already in SSJ1 form was supposed to be strongest in the entire Universe, was ONLY equal to a monster made from... Wait for it... NOTHING!
Magic is life energy right? Oh ok
It is just a ridiculous plot device and it destroyed the human characters usefulness.
I didn't know "ZENKAI" was a character
Yeah Zenkai is not a character
He was able to surpass all of the other Z-fighters at the age of 9. But unfortunately the buu saga made that seem like it never happened, especially since they made Goten (who had only been trained by Chi-Chi, one of the weakest main characters in the show) significantly stronger than him.
Frieza and Cell went to the other world and they lost there fights so they should have fused and got a power level over Goku's.
The only reason they surpassed him because with all fusion it multiples your power. So with the fusion they used, was the formula f(2) + c(2)=fc^2 with f=Frieza and c=Cell.
With Vegito it was 10(v(10) + g(10))= Vegito. Makes sense
It's not that he wasn't mystic. It's just that he is both non canon and not a fighter, and that Mystic Gohan was nothing next to Buu, let alone Omega Shenron. Also, bad writing pooped on him.
I don't see why he wouldn't be able to use a transformation just because he slacked off.
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