Top 10 Reasons to Hate Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door

The Top Ten

1 The Game is Too Overrated

This is the best game of all time. I can't understand why anyone would hate it. It is original, emotional, fun, engaging, and absolutely amazing. If it was the highest rated game of all time, it would still be deserved. I understand people have personal tastes, but how anyone could say this is a bad game is astounding. It is perfect beyond comprehension (aside from a little backtracking now and then).

It is a good game, but the backtracking, the obnoxious stage gimmicks, the excruciatingly long cut scene before Shadow Queen every. Single. Time. you die, and so many other problems are completely ignored by everybody who says it is great. The main reasons are always its story, its characters, how emotional it is, and things like that, which are all good reasons to like it, but people treat it like the greatest game ever. These comments are a great example of that. Even the original for the N64 is leaps and bounds more fun, and less of a chore to play.

Overrated but still good. Please respect my opinion.

It really annoys me when people hate a game just because other people like it. - miccat87

2 Princess Peach, Her Voice, Her Horrible Nature, Her Cowardice & What She Let Happen to Her

I don't care that she wasn't voiced by Leslie Swan! I didn't play th game to listen to Princess Peach's voice! - HeavyDonkeyKong

Her voice is better in Super Paper Mario.

I think the Shadow Queen battle is the best Paper Mario battle ever! Also the list sucks. - Flamer310

Princess Peach is not at all awesome.

3 The Graphics

This list was made by a troll! - HeavyDonkeyKong

This entire list triggers me so hard.

The graphics are great! - DCfnaf

Not the worst thing about TTYD, but still good. They look too colonial and unfinished, though.

4 The Plot, Characters, Music & Storyline

Ok...everyone will have different opinions, but these 4 things to me are the BEST parts of this game! Also, these four aspects were just thrown together, and there's no reason to make them all one reason to hate this game. This game is so much more thought-out and original than most other Mario games, so if you hate this, then you will have a hard time finding one that's much better (and yes, I KNOW people will say Super Paper Mario at least on this list, but I love that game too so I don't need it to be forced upon me). A lot of people like The Thousand Year Door, and if you don't then that's fine, but at least try to understand why so many people do: mostly for these four aspects.

Lol is this a best or worst list

I, the creator of this list cannot tell a lie. This is a worst list.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl is much better than Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door!

Those four things are what make the game good you idiots! - DCfnaf

5 The Places & Names Overall

Rogueport? Goombella? Puni? Vivian? For Pigs the Bell Tolls? Hooktail (she's sexy)? Bobbery? Koops? Koopie Koo? Princess Peach? Boggly? What?! Such nonsense words! This is why any other Mario RPG (except for M&L: BIS, PM: SS and M&L: DT) is much better than PM: TTYD.

6 People Compare it to Super Paper Mario Then Say It's Much Better

This should be top 1! Seriously, this game sucks & will never be any better than Super Paper Mario.

How about "I like Super Paper Mario better than Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door" instead of "Super Paper Mario is better than Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door"?

Personally I like The Thousand Year Door better but I respect your opinions and you should respect my opinion too and not thumbs-down my comments.

No they don't! All I see is you people shoving Super Paper Mario down our throats! - HeavyDonkeyKong

I disagree, I think they are equally great games, just complain about sticker star, no story and it's watered down, sticker star is the disapointment.

I'm sorry... but... Huh? I think it's quite obvious that TTYD is better than Super. It's all based on opinions, but from the viewpoint of anyone who has played the series, Super is inferior.

7 The Fanbase

i agree

8 The Game Is On a Generation Era of (Gaming) Console
9 The Chapters

The OG Paper Mario has much better chapters than TTYD! That game was a disgrace which ruined everything from the original.

10 Yellow-Haired Female Characters

Gee, I wonder who? Hmm..

Thousand year Door is my favorite, but when I saw this, I just had to vote for it

Idiot Peach Hater - DCfnaf

The Contenders

11 Princess Daisy Not Being In This Game

What the hell is up with everyone who wants Daisy in the Paper Mario series? I see it in every list about "Why Paper Mario sucks". The only main series game she's ever been in is Super Mario Land.

Daisy Sucks So Much I Gave Rosalina Credit For Being better, DAISY SUCKS! - VideoGamefan5

Shes not in spm either - Adambalm

This stupid visitor comments on every list going


This visitor makes awful lists. - DCfnaf

12 Princess Peach's Voice

Bowser has a much better voice than this.

Worst voice in gaming, ever!


13 The Game Is Unoriginal

WHAT? The first three Paper Mario games are practically the most original Mario games out there, along with the other Mario RPGs (not Sticker Star, since it was very basic despite not being terrible like most people say). The music, gameplay, and especially bosses and locations are at least as original as the other Paper Mario games, if not more. So have personal preferences all you want, just don't say the game isn't original when that isn't even really an opinion statement ad isn't true.

This Game Isn't More Unoriginal Than Sticker Star!

Most unoriginal Paper Mario game by far, even more unoriginal than Sticker Star

And the first one where you save peach from Bowser, but you seem to like that

14 Frustrating Gameplay

Seriously? It's JUST like the original! We are not forcing you guys to like this game we are just saying why WE like this game! It seems as though you guys are forcing us to like Super Paper Mario! Well I love Super Paper Mario but Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door is my favorite Paper Mario game! Does that SERIOUSLY impact your life in anyway? - HeavyDonkeyKong

15 It Is the Highest Rated Paper Mario Game

How does this make it a bad game? Others liking or disliking a game should have absolutely NO EFFECT on your enjoyment of the game. If you hate it, fine, and if you love it, fine, just do so for an actual reason and give it a chance!

Super Paper Mario rocks! I like TTYD, but Super Paper Mario is a groundbreaker & much more creative.

Now you guys are actually LYING! The original is the highest rated! - HeavyDonkeyKong

For a good reason

16 Fangs
17 It Was Released in the Sixth Generation Era of Gaming

What the hell does this even have to do with the game being good/bad? Practically all the best games came out in this generation.

18 Scratchpad
19 When Princess Peach wears a ponytail after her shower, she takes it off after she leaves the bathroom

Best reason out of all of these my opinion is now changed forever

20 The Game Is With Low Definition
21 The Title

The title seems fine to me. It relates to the plot and is important, since the Thousand-Year Door is the center of everything related to the Crystal Stars and it being opened causes the world to almost end. To me, it's a cool title, and it is the only Paper Mario game with an interesting title other than just generic Mario stuff (except for Sticker Star, but that title isn't that great to me at least).

"Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door"?! Always use a full sentence, Nintendo!

Super Paper Mario isn't a full sentence either. Neither is legend of the seven stars. - HeavyDonkeyKong

There isn't even an 1,000 year old door

So now your judging this by its title?!? That's like judging a boom by its conver! - HeavyDonkeyKong

22 The Setting
23 It Never Make Sense

Yeah! That Could Be True Or You Would Just Be Too Stupid To Understand It.

How so? It made sense to me. If anything, Super Paper Mario had a more complex and weird story, but I got it too and absolutely loved it also. As for the gameplay, TTYD made a lot of sense and had very fun but simple mechanics.

Why do you care if a Mario game makes sense?

You know what? If Peach had been voiced by leslie Swan, you would be sining the praises for this game! I just know it! - HeavyDonkeyKong

24 It's For The GameCube

So this game is bad just because it's for GameCube?

Best console to be honest

The Wii is the best because it plays gamecube games. Gamecube is second. - HeavyDonkeyKong

25 Its Super Mario Kun adaptation
26 It's Not a Crossover

And that's a bad thing? What do you want, a Call of Duty Mario Rpg from hell?

27 The Interludes
28 The Prologue

Fine, play without the tutorial

29 The Backstory

Well, I love Super Paper Mario very much, but THAT backstory was KIND OF a Romeo and Juliet ripoff... so... - HeavyDonkeyKong

Worst backstory ever! I do not even get the text!

There was supposed to be action like in the OG Paper Mario, not just a depiction of a storybook!

30 Lack of Princess Daisy

I put this here because in the loading screen I originally believed that Princess Daisy was in this game, because I am not very smart.

True It Could've Been Better If They Had Princess Daisy In There. But Hey, Look On The Bright Side At Least Luigi Mentioned Her In One Of His Stories.

Man, I hate Daisy Fans so damn much.


31 Rogueport
32 Annoying Characters
33 People Say This Game Is Better Than All the Other Paper Mario Games

Yeah That's True Most People Brag About This Being The Best Paper Mario Game Out Of All Of Them Which Does Get More Annoying Overtime, But How Does That Make The Game Any Worse? It Doesn't Make Any Sense Whatsoever!

Paper Mario is great.
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door is favourable.
Super Paper Mario is perfect.
Paper Mario: Sticker Star is unfavourable.

34 No Humor

Does Any Video game Have To Be Funny In Order For It To Be Good?

35 Awful Voice Acting

Mainly Princess Peach's voice. I tell you, it's awful! Princess Peach sounds unbelievably miscast.

I am not okay with Princess Peach's voice! It strongly annoyis the hell out of me!

36 This Game Ruined the Installment of the Original

How? It doesn't make the original any less great in my opinion! - HeavyDonkeyKong

Uh... it actually improves the original game in every way...

37 The Hub & Levels
38 The Game Being Preferred Over Super Paper Mario

Super Paper Mario is much more interesting than this still-classic sequel to the good old original Paper Mario. I love the N64 very much!

Even if you like SPM better, then why is that a reason to hate TTYD MORE? That doesn't make sense! You can like both or one or neither without that being related. There's a reason why many love TTYD the most, but even if there wasn't, hating something because of it being loved by others isn't a reason to hate it. A game being bad isn't a legitimate reason WHY the game is bad! There has to be a legitimate reason (or just personal taste) or your claims won't make any sense!

No it isn't! Not with you fanboys hating on it! - HeavyDonkeyKong

How is iyt preferred ove rsuper paper Mario if you all hate it? - HeavyDonkeyKong

39 Awful Chapters
40 The Weird Title of the Game
41 This Game Doesn't Make Sense

It is confusing, but fun.

This game has no reason to exist. I mean, the whole game sucks!

It's not confusing! The game has a great plot that made perfect sense to me, and the game mechanics weren't confusing either. If anything, SPM had a MORE confusing story, although that had arguably an even better story than TTYD so I'm not complaining and I love SPM too. People who wrote and vote on this list, give this game a chance and if you don't like it, at least appreciate why others like me love it so much and why it's NOT OBJECTIVELY a bad game, even if you don't personally enjoy it.

42 This Game Is On the Gamecube
43 Ugly Characters

Who's Ugly? Tell Me Who?

44 Princess Peach's Dress

She Always Has The Same Dress. Get Over It! That's Like Saying The Game Is Bad Because Bowser Never Wears Any Clothes.

45 Useless Partners
46 Ms. Mowz Rips Off Mouser

Is she Mouser's younger sister or wife?

How can Nintendo rip off itself? Exactly, I mean? - HeavyDonkeyKong

47 The Shadow Queen

Sounds like a ripoff of Shadow the Hedgehog's name. She even makes me lose.

Why do you hate the shadow queen? Because she was hard to beat? That was the point! - HeavyDonkeyKong

48 Princess Peach Is In the Game

Um, she's in every Mario game?

She's also in super pape rmario and the original paper Mario! - HeavyDonkeyKong

49 Super Bowser Bros. Is Only 3 Stages

That's True They Should've Made More Stages.

50 Weak Humor
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