Top Ten Reasons Why Ash is Better Than Red in Pokemon
The Top Ten
Didn't good and the Pokemon Sun protagonist, you know, BEAT RED?! - HeavyDonkeyKong
There wasn't really any canon winner, but I do agree that Red (game) is mostly just a game protagonist, only with an official status - yungstirjoey666
Don't forget that Red was also beaten by Gold in Gold/Silver and Kris in Crystal and Ethan/Lyra in Heart Gold/Soul Silver and Nate/Rosa in Black 2/White 2 no matter if that's canon or not, in game it's canon that he got beaten anyway
By the way keep in mind that this is origins red that I'm talking about
i understand manga red though - yungstirjoey666
In every way, in the movies, episodes, etc. Ash has always been the one saving someone, along with his FRIENDS! ( which by the way red doesn't have so yeah sorry for going off topic a little.)
The reason Ash always has companions on his journey is because they are inspired by him to improve themselves as people, not just as trainers.
Ash doesn't care about making his team huge. He seems to know the value of centering your team around just a small amount of Pokemon. With much less Pokemon to worry about than Red, he ha smore time to minimize the weaknesses of his teams, and capitalize on the strengths of his team. - HeavyDonkeyKong
Which is still a rather impressive feat, regardless of whether or not they count as a league. - HeavyDonkeyKong
U can't compare the games Red to the anime Ash because YOU played as Red. So you have to use the pokemon origins Red and with out a doubt Red is killing Ash with his Mewtwo and Mega Charizard and more OP pokemon. Sorry Ash
So by that logic, Red does not exist, and is merely an abstract concept of our experience in the games? - yungstirjoey666
A will o wisp defeat ash charizard...
As far as I've seen, everything is very difficult in the anime. The games are just too straightfoward. - yungstirjoey666
If Ash wins with a type disadvantage, people call him a hacker. If people beat ash with a type disadvantage, nobody calls them a hacker. they just say that ash sucks. logic, please? lolol. - HeavyDonkeyKong
As much as I dislike Amourshipping, I'm still putting this here because it's an accomplishment that Red hasn't achieved. - yungstirjoey666
Even more If you count the movies (which I consider to be noncanon.) - HeavyDonkeyKong
In origins, red has only been shown to have a bond with his charizard. Admittedly, the pokemon advenntures red seems to care about his pokemon a lot more than origins red. He seems a lot like an even stronger version of ash. But for whatever reason, I still like Ash better than him. - HeavyDonkeyKong
Correction, Ash cares about his PIKACHU way more. He literally ignores the rest of his Pokémon. However, he cares about that Pikachu so much that he takes it to every region instead of leaving it to rot like he does the rest of his Pokémon. He also won't give it to three stalkers who's sole reason for existing is to steal it.
Pokemon games are about people mugging each other. - HeavyDonkeyKong
Oak says red gives his Pokemon trust & love, but all we see him do with them is make them battle. Ash however shows him bonding with his Pokemon. Expcally pikachu, greninja, infernape, & charizard.
Go watch the DP series; a whole lot strategy there. - yungstirjoey666
Dp and xy/xyz. They perfect examples. - HeavyDonkeyKong
I didn't even notice. There is +1 next to it at the moment. But it is fine anyway. - HeavyDonkeyKong
Greninja getting beaten by a blast burn is still a hell of a lot better than a jolteon getting beaten by a thunderbolt.
Charizard had STAB on his side. And an insanely high amount of special attack. Greninja took two Dragon Claws IIRC and Blast Burn is strong even if you do resist it in my opinion.
Rhyhorn has, if I recall correctly, horrible special attack. no sort of stab whatsoever. Thunderbolt is very strong but not nearly as much as blast burn, and jolteon took no damage prior. - HeavyDonkeyKong
Well, technically it's exactly 7 regions but...yeah, I agree.
We only know of blue that is his friend
Yes red stopped team rocket, but that's the only evil team he stopped. Ash stopped manga, aqua, galatic, & plasma so far.
Ash stopped manga?
Did you mean Magma?
So oak takes good care of their Pokemon like he feeds them & let them come out to play. Does red make sure his other Pokemon he never uses & only got to complete his pokedex are well taken care of? At least we know ash's other Pokemon are well taken care of.
If Ash wants he can have any legendary battle for him without even catching them
Something that Red can't have in million years
Brandon, there was a guy with an artocuno, & tobias ash's pikachu tied with a latias (pika isn't even super effective against it). When has red defeated trainers in league/e-4 type trainers with legends? Oh right, his best accomplishment is beating people with the same type.
Ash's pikachu > red's pathetichu
Ash's Charizard > reds charizard
Ash > red
Despite all of the numerous accomplishments that Ash had, he still was a relatable character.
On a side note, I honestly believe that the term "Mary Sues" have been abused too much, especially towards female characters. - yungstirjoey666
Red would probably flip out if he had these three idiots stalking him everywhere that he went. Ash just keeps his cool and keeps on sending them blasting off again. - HeavyDonkeyKong
It dodges everything!
Red didn't talk to her after he left his journey & for like TWO WHOLE YEARS making her worry. Ash on the other hand comes & sees his mom at least every time he finishes competing in a league & in alola he gladly went on a vacation with her.
Red there's nothing about him except 'he became champion & stopped team rocket' which all protagonists become champion & stop the evil regional team. He's so boring & uninteresting as a character. Ash had a lot of personality in OS & in alola he acts a lot like a fun cool 10 yr old.
Ash got a poked with a lot of pokemon because of red but when he saw ho-oh the poked had no information
It way flying behind his house like ‘go try catch me, oh sorry I got to meet ash’