Top 10 Reasons Why Super Smash Bros 4 Sucks

The Top Ten

1 No Touhou characters

Lawsuit time. - GehennaTheSecond

Reimu and Marisa should be in the game

2 Too many unwanted characters

Only one each, but ONE "Bayonetta" character and ONE "Final Fantasy VII" character are too many for SSB

They added TOO many fire emblem characters they added 3 and 2 as DLC in total there were 6 fire emblem characters total bullcrap

Agreed that Bayonetta is way too sexy and inappropriate for this game, and her own games are overrated anyway. Yeah, I can just not buy her, but I still have to endure everyone else talking about her being in this game.

They added Bayonetta, corrin, roy, lucina, female robin, BUT NO WALUIGI?

3 Too many Fire Emblem characters

Come on, here is like 20 of them. it makes me so pissed. Sakurai I guess is most proud of fire emblem

They're as much pokemon than FE character and pretty much the same for mario character so it isn't a big deal

I don't think it's too many. It's fine the way it is. Besides, there hasn't been enough Fire Emblem representation in the older Super Smash Bros. games. Heck, there are even no FE trophies in Melee other than just the two playable characters. Also remember that this is a franchise that has TONS of characters, with an all-new cast introduced in every two games in the series.

I agree having non iconic characters really makes them vague and since they have the OP counter they just might be here for the reason of being OP

4 No adventure mode

They should've had adventure mode because if not,why bother playing.

Legit the best part about brawl was the adventure mode

I gotta agree. I was so disappointed when I discovered there was no adventure mode. They should make it in the next one, along with 8 player smash. - BlueTopazIceVanilla

Adventure mode was awesome! It makes me really angry that Smash 4 doesn't have one!

5 No Hyperdimension Neptunia girls

Well. Hyperdimension neptunia was only playstation only at the time smash 4 was out. Now let's hope nep is dlc for ultimate.

We do need the nep

We need Nep Nep and Noire

6 Too many non-Nintendo characters

A problem that actually WORSENED with Ultimate

Not everyone loves the Crash Bandicoot series and not everyone loves Sonic and his supporting cast, myusernameisthis.

Why is that a bad thing? Who wouldn't wanna play as Tails or Crash Bandicoot in smash? - myusernameisthis

A situation that escalated in Ultimate.

7 Too many characters with swords

So... we're just going to forget one of the most important weapons in Video Games and military history? Look at who we'd lose if we did so:
Toon Link
Cloud Strife
The Female Fire Emblem Character whose name I forget
Pit and Dark Pit

These characters all use the sword differently as to warrant appearing. It would be like saying too many cartoony characters...

What? Swords are like the #1 weapon in video games. Well, maybe #2 since Call of Duty is so popular. But really. I personally do not have a problem with sword characters. - Matt0418

THIS is your reason? "too many characters with swords"? You're kidding, right? - Garythesnail

I agree but keep link,toon link,pit and dark pit. They are the best and they are my favorite.PS, Dark Pit and Pit have BOWS and shields. Not SWORDS.

8 Because Melee fans are stuck in the past

The reason why Super Smash Bros. Melee is better in my opinion is because like, back in brawl the graphics were great how Mario has jean patterns on his overalls and in Smash 4, he has plain blue overalls. I like melee graphics better than Smash 4's graphics. I like how there is not a single non-Nintendo character in this game (So did the first one). Jigglypuff is so ruined in Super Smash 4. Jigglypuff's eyes and mouth is ruined. Melee Jigglypuff is way cuter. Enough said...

This is the reason people think it sucks. Everybody whines about the ONE problem with Brawl(occasional tripping), and they want 5,000 new DLC characters in Smash 4, while they don't even notice that both those games have 10 times more material(and better overall material). - Garythesnail

Melee? , What Is This? , 2008? - VideoGamefan5

Melee fans have nothing to do with this... - nintendofan126

9 Online spammers

Well You Can't Blame The Game (It Rhymes, lol), Its Other People Who Are Playing It Too - VideoGamefan5




10 Many characters are over powered

Like pacman

All of them are - Nateawesomeness

No they aren't

So? , I Don't Have A Problem With That - VideoGamefan5


The Contenders

11 It doesn't teach you how to fight in-game

Good, no more dragged out, long, annoying, and almost absolutely useless tutorials.

This is a blessing. I hate it when games force me to go through boring, dragged-out tutorials that prevent me from playing the actual game. I prefer learning as I play. - ShuhBanggg

I don't even own the game, but I played this great game before, and this list has one correct item. - Therandom

There's this great new thing called the instruction manual. - Garythesnail

12 Too many Pokemon characters

Couldn't agree more. They're all ugly and a part of literally the worst, most cancerous franchise EVER created by ANYONE. It boggles my mind how there are 30-40-year-olds who like this awful garbage intended solely for children of ages 6-10. It's fun killing them though, I wish they kept Kirby's final smash from Brawl so we could cook all the monsters and turn them into delicious foods again. ♥

I like Pokemon but I respect your opinion. Not all of them say their names and they only say their names in the anime series. In the games, they each have their own battle cry that sounds similar to a real animal's. Some Pokemon do use human speech, such as Mewtwo and Lucario, so not all of them say their names all the time.

Actually, it is Nintendo's 2nd biggest franchise, so it should have at least 20% of the roster in my opinion

Well all the Pokemon characters are awesome exept jigglypuff - Nateawesomeness

13 Too many clone characters

Take out the koopalings

Agreed! Take out Lucina and Dr. Mario. Dark Pit and the koopalings are okay

Sometimes clones can be changed or improved. Luigi used to be a Mario clone, but now he has a few different moves that distinguish him from his own brother.

There only 3 clones Melee had like 7 it doesn't have too many clones.

14 Not enough Mario characters

I gree

It actually has plenty of Mario characters and as a matter of fact, being Nintendo's flagship series, there are more Mario reps than anything else. Even Bowser Jr. has all seven Koopalings as his alternate costumes. I'm sure if there's a new character in a future game that ends up being popular, like how Rosalina is today, it will end up to be a fighter in a future Super Smash Bros., but we'll see.

It's actually good they don't have too many. Wouldn't it get kinda boring if there were only Mario characters?

Peter Griffin: Oh My God!, Who The HELL Cares?! - VideoGamefan5

15 Awful music re-arrangements

They suck so bad m8

What happened to ai no uta? - Scarytar44

How could they ruin so much great music!? Seriously, the main theme is forgettable (the Final Destination theme sucks especially) and the remixes are bad overall! The only consistently good music is from Melee or Brawl!

There's not that many Smash 4 exclusive remixes, but a ton of them are far inferior to the original songs. I'm looking at you In The Space Pirate Ship and Xenoblade Chronicles Medley.

16 Yukari Yakumo is not in this game

Who even is that? - GehennaTheSecond

Yukari would be a better character for Smash rather than Bayonetta

17 Everyone online uses Cloud or Bayonetta only

Third Parties are overpoweredunderpowered and serve no purpose besides trolling and easy kills most of the time.

Count your blessings, person who added this. Soon you'll be fighting nothing but Bayonetta, Cloud, or Snake online.

Hope you weren't planning to play Smash Ultimate online ever since THEY WEREN'T CUT AND NOW COME WITH THE GAME!

Smash was never about them!

18 Salty players

Same Thing I Said About "Online Spammers", Its Other People Not The Game, You Dumb Dumbs - VideoGamefan5

Salty is something players say just for being toxic you know. - AngusMacdonaldMii

That's the fan base not the game

Every time you go on for glory they're is that one salty player that rages at you calling you a scrub or U.SUCK it's just a game after if you win or lose to someone get over it! and then there trolls that do anything to make you salty such as crouch spamming or taunt spam.

19 The big Smash Ballot

Funny how several characters who likely had more votes than the obnoxious Sarah Palin lookalike have now been confirmed for Ultimate, thus proving they were indeed "realizable"...

Only if they hadn't voted for Bayonetta... - SwiftBlur

Given that Bayonetta didn't actually win (was said to just be "very popular in Europe"/"within the top 5"- had she actually won outright they would have said so) and the more I hear the claim that while she's not first-party Nintendo "saved" her home series, I'm starting to wonder if the ballot was just for show and to earn Nintendo PR points when in actuality they had planned to put Bayonetta in anyway no matter who actually won.

Are we absolutely sure this isn't to blame for Cloud's presence as well as Bayonetta's? No, I don't think either of them belongs in Smash.

20 Too much fan service
21 Removal of good characters

The Ice Climbers were this close to actually being in the Wii U version, but no can't have characters exclusive to one version or the other despite having some modes, trophies, and stages be console-exclusive.

Wolf needs to come back in brawl to me he was the best character in the game

Waluigi sucks he doesn't deserve to be a fighter but as an assist trophy

I wish they didn't get rid of Snake he was so cool.

22 No Break the Target

Well I Actually Enjoyed Break The Target, But Still - VideoGamefan5

23 Replaced ice climbers with Rosalina and luma

Rosalina and Lima are good

They're alike but luma does all fighting

Ice climbers suck anyways - yunafreya648

MarioTehPlumber! Get outta here! - WarriorCatsHater

1 Comment
24 Horrible Lvl. 9 A.I.

Hm... yeah... I went 1-1 against a level.9 CPU and the comment I saw on this is more than right.

The level 9 A.I. Opponents are horrible. When they're not busy spamming projectiles and especially counters, or reading every single one of your inputs, they constantly grab you and run away when you at least try to approach. On top of that, they appear to have constantly regenerating shields, no lag on any moves whatsoever, larger hit boxes for attacks, larger range for edge grabbing, and even more invincibility frames for everything. To make everything even worse, I am very certain that their resistance to attacks and their damage for all attack is buffed no matter what. If you are planning to play offline solo, don't.

25 Classic mode is completely random

Melee's Classic mode used to have structure, but now, it's just a board with random swarms of random
characters fighting in random stages.

No target test stages

No trophy mini-game

Completely random prizes

26 X and Zero (from Mega Man X) are not in this game

I mean, Megaman is in, why not Zero? He is even more powerful than Megaman, and also appears in other fighting games, why he should not make an appearance in Smash?

27 It's hard trying to use the final smash attack

Mostly the ones that require a opponent in front of you

It takes practice. It may be hard at first but once you get better, it will be a lot easier.

Its not its pretty easy

Depends who - Nateawesomeness

28 Bad stages
29 Shadow isn't playable

SO?!, I Mean I Like Shadow, But Who Cares? - VideoGamefan5

Uh oh, salty Sonic fangirl! - WarriorCatsHater

I hate you

That's pretty much hating sm4sh because Waluigi isn't playable. Yes, I know this list is about Sm4sh, but still, there's always Sm5sh. (Do it Nintendo! ) - TrueBlueHeroes

30 Rosalina's in it

I know who put that down - ParkerFang

MarioTehPlumber! Get outta here! - WarriorCatsHater

31 Shulk is in it
32 It should have Nepgear instead of Bayonetta

Bayonetta is way too wicked for this game, Nepgear is adorable

Nepgear is top tier waifu with lots of cuteness

33 No digimon

I mean, they made Digimon games on some Nintendo consoles.. Like Nintendo DS and Gameboy Advance.. I am not sure if Digimon would really fit into Super Smash Bros games. Not expecting a Digimon to appear in Super Smash Bros Ultimate either. But there are few Digimon fighting games though.. So far, I know about Rumble Arena and Battle Spirit (or something like that) series even though I didn't play that much Digimon games

That's Just Stupid - WWEWBMortalKombatFan

People still care about Digimon..?

34 Rules YouTube

So? Fortnite sucks more than this - Scarytar44

Fortnite and Call of Duty and Overwatch and Roblox and Minecraft rule youtube, not smash - B1ueNew

Wow people treat this like Minecraft like its endless. most of the new videos are just lame online gameplays I only watch stuff like trailers and CREATIVE stuff like how to get challenges and stuff and I don't like watching other stuff beacause there's too much swearing and all the comments are repetitive.

35 Most of the new music sucks

Oh my lord Smiles and Tears! What have they done to you? - WarriorCatsHater

Wow brawl music was better this s sounds lame and I don't hate this videogame infact I really love it heres the worst things about it

36 Almost impossible challenges

Maybe Beacause You Just Suck At This Game - VideoGamefan5

This is true

37 Rolling and spamming

This is the reason why I hate this game

Really? - VideoGamefan5

38 Not enough Kirby characters

We need bandana dee! - Drawbox

39 It has Ness and Lucas, but not Ninten

They might as a DLC in the future. - Gehenna

I know! Why bother putting two Earthbound characters if the first ever PSI master isn't going to be in the game?

40 Inkling is not playable

You know the Inklings are going to be in SSB5 right? GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

Awww. I wanted Inklings in SSB4! - Neinwott

41 Distracting visual effects
42 Cloud is playable

Greatest sellout game in the history!

43 Bayonetta usurped the last character slot from more deserving characters

I don't have any hard evidence, the other commenter may or may not have any hard evidence, but the fact that Nintendo bought the Bayonetta franchise, which HADN'T BEEN SELLING ALL THAT WELL, from Sega so close to the initial ballot announcement is a little TOO coincidental to be coincidental. Also they only said "within the top five" and "very popular in Europe"- had she actually won they would've just said so.

That several if not all of those "more deserving characters" have since been confirmed for Ultimate is of little consolation.

Bayonetta's inclusion in an E10-rated game is bad enough, but now there is evidence that she was planned for the game a mere 2 weeks after the ballot was announced! This means the ballot was a lie and this is absolutely unforgivable!

44 Ruined character roster profile pictures

Sm4she lame excuse for the alph skin hurt me. At least all the koopalings got separate poses and stuff - Scarytar44

Meta knights was really messed up

45 Literally no depth

For some strange reason Nintendo likes to remove features that make the game more competitive, from the jump from Melee to Smash 4/Brawl, here's some of what was removed/changed

- Wavedashing
-Jigglypuff became tournament viable to (Rest was nerfed to all hell)
-Falco became garbage, Smash 4 is his worst iteration
- Dr.Mario is worse than Mario now for some reason
-More Fire Emblem characters, which is exactly what everyone wanted.
-Taking away characters from previous installments and adding them back as DLC (Mewtwo, Roy, Lucas)
-Much slower game speed compared to Melee
-More floatier
-Air dodging is one dimensional and can be used offstage without consequences
-Charged money to use 3DS as a controller
-Nerf patches require you to relearn your main or pick a new one altogether.
-Clones are WAY too similar to the original character (ala Dark Pit and Lucina. Take a look at Ganondorf for a clone done ...more

46 Unbalanced Items

No! Boss Galga! Go away! - WarriorCatsHater

47 Too many Zelda characters

No I don't see that - ParkerFang

48 Long loading times
49 Only one Sega representative

They should put Tails, Knuckles, Beat, AiAi and Alex Kidd.

50 No geometry dash cube

Bad sakurai

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