Top Ten Ways Negaishipping is Better Than Amourshipping in Pokemon

Amourshipping (ash/Serena) is so overrated, and I'll prove that by showing how the least popular ash/main girl ship, which is negaishipping (ash/Iris) is better!

The Top Ten

1 Had more of an actual 'date!' Had more of an actual 'date!'


Serena was the one who kissed him, so what? That didn't make it canon. Just made it very apparent that Serena is a stupid who wants in ash's pants, & really we knew that from the start. Nothing amazing happened with amourshipping, it's still one-sided & not canon. Ash didn't even blush a little from the kiss, & I'll tell u a little secret, it looked as thought he found the kiss uncomfortable as he moved his foot like he wanted to get out of there.


And people say Ash and Iris weren't good friends geez... This is how a date should be like, both parts should have fun and Ash doesn't enjoy Serena's boring company. That's why he ran off

They went to that one city where they ditched cilan and played sports, watched musicals, and helped an axew find his trainer! Ash left Serena once he figured out what he wanted to get his Pokemon. What a great date /rollseyes - person5000

€He didn’t move his foot like he wanted to get out of there at all. He didn’t feel uncomfortable and you could clearly tell he enjoyed the kiss.
Proven FACT noob. lol - TGBBOD”

Lol wow is this the best you can come up with? ‘I’m rite u rong because I say so lol lozr’ not surprised really. It’s typical that amourshippers can’t back anything up, because boreshipping fails completely.

Wow, you are picking on something that person used to make fun of you. Burn /sarcasm - person5000

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2 They don't mind hanging out alone together They don't mind hanging out alone together

Ash didn't want to help Serena for her first poke video and has never spent time alone with just Serena wanting to or without leaving her when they could've gotten their gifts together. With Iris he has had fun swinging on trees with her while cilan is away cooking. - person5000

This list is great, thank you person5000 for making this! - ItsDaWorldOfSNuGGLEZ

I'm not a negashipper but yeah, I agree. - TwilightKitsune

3 Iris was actually the first to be asked by ash to join him on his journey Iris was actually the first to be asked by ash to join him on his journey

Why do people forget/ignore Iris? - person5000

I neglect her because I hate her. Plain & simple. And I hope she NEVER comes back. - TGBBOD

Xy may have been better, but the BW hate is overglorifiee and paints the gen v anime to be something its not. - HeavyDonkeyKong

4 Iris doesn't put ash on such a high pedestal Iris doesn't put ash on such a high pedestal

Serena views ash so highly that it's really pathetic. It's like she thinks ash can't be human at all or her 'ash-sama' isn't ash to her.

But Iris sees and appropriately points out her annoyances with ash, but not really in a rude or abusive way. While annoying, she just calls ash a kid. This helps ash grow, unlike Serena who I'd personally run from after almost being killed via snowball. - person5000

Iris criticises Satoshi because she wants to see him improve. Serena seems to think he's perfect in every way when he isn't. - FrozenHatingPokefan

Wow, this is a great list, person5000.

I feel like Serena worships Satoshi. Iris however treated Ash equally. I was rewatching the XYZ anime, and screamed "Get that thing out of my face! " every time Serena blushed at Ash.

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5 They have better fights They have better fights

When has Iris pelted anything at ash? And ash has only thrown a pokeball at Iris because he thought she was a Pokemon. The only big argument ash & Iris had, they made up afterwords with gifts (apples & flowers). - person5000

Honestly the way they made up was adorable. - ItsDaWorldOfSNuGGLEZ

They do not have better fights. Iris and Ash literally fought because of a stupid APPLE! Serena going into the woods to find Ash and fighting with him because he doesn’t seem to be acting like himself is a MILLION times better of an excuse for a fight than a stupid apple. Try to think before you type. - TGBBOD

6 They had believable development on their friendship They had believable development on their friendship

Serena ran after ash because some stupid crush on ash even though she interacted with him for an hour maybe and where friends because she 'helped him win his first badge.'

Iris & ash took some time to get along, but after traveling around together they both found some common interest and soon where helping each other and cheering for each other. - person5000

TGBBOD; yeah sure, because SUDDENLY adding a 'childhood friend' for Ash at last minute only to have Serena develpop a crush on Ash instantly and worship the ground he walks on is more "believable." Iris is not perfect. She acts like an actual 10 year old. She develops over time, and even if BW was written worse than XY, you see the change in her character.

Go ahead and ship amourshipping all you want for all I care. But you can't deny it's forced and only is for fanservice and baiting more people into the pokemon anime series

7 Iris does more than blush at Ash Iris does more than blush at Ash

That's the majority of hints for Serena. Like we know she likes ash. It's confirmed. Why does every blush matter at this point from Serena?

However we got Iris showing interest by following him, her gaze in I believe ash's first gym battle, and ash showing more interest in Iris than he ever did with Serena by wanting to battle her and enjoy hanging out with her. - person5000

You know, Serena did FAR more in XY than blush at Ash if you paid attention, which you didn’t. lol - TGBBOD

€Triggered? - TGBBOD”
That’s more you, man. You came into a poll that’s obviously going to be against boreshipping & just came in & commented ‘wrong’ without explanation to why it’s wrong. It’s people like you who make the Pokemon fans look bad. I don’t even care for Negaishipping or that much, but I don’t go around saying Serena doesn’t exist because I don’t like her like you do with Iris lol

TGBBOD right! Serena does far more than blush at ash! She is the perfect little tool for him, strares at him all the time, tries to hold his hand, obsesses over every little thing he says & does, minipulates him when he shows any negative emotion & doesn’t do or say something she likes, get jealous over little things when another girl does something to him or when he calls a Pokemon cute, stole his clothes when he was sick, tried to Seduce him with a furry/furries outfit, & forced her lips on ash when she left! See, they r purfict 4 each other! 1! 1! 1! 1!

Really, not everyone likes boreshipping you whinny brat (TGBBOD). Nor should they. Get over it (actually, keep b***hing about each item here. It’s funny how butthurt you are that your ship sucks so much).

8 Iris would risk her life to save Ash

Even if they just met, Iris crossed the bridge of Sandiles to save Ash's life (BW003). Throughout the rest of the series Iris has attempted to run after Ash after he does reckless stunts, but is always held back by Cilan or other supporting casts (Movie 14 and during the N saga). Unlike Serena, Iris cares enough for Ash to put her life on stake. Serena let herself get brainwashed WILLINGLY because she didn't want her face to get messed up (XY episode 19) and put everyone's life in danger when she could help save her friends. Serena loves Ash, my foot. - Engel

How even in the HELL does Serena get it in her head that facial beauty is more important than NOT GETTING BRAINWASHED?!

Seriously. Iris is better for Ash. She doesn't make stupid decisions that endanger everyone else.

9 Negaishipping would be more believable Negaishipping would be more believable

Amourshipping happening would seem as random as with Harry & Ginny happening from Harry Potter. Serena has the one-sided crush like Ginny, didn't really take interest or pay attention at all to her like Harry with Ginny, and would be as random as Harry & Ginny.

But ash & Iris got development, great friendship, and would go good together. - person5000

Iris and Ash act like 10 year olds should act, unlike Serena who literally worships him

Even if amourshipping become canon, Iris' and Ash's relationship changed slowly for the better which makes it more believable. amourshipping is forced because the writers wanted to boost the views

"Seriously... how exactly would a white person dating a black person be more believable? It wouldn’t. Cause they’re both different races. And no, I am not a racist. But Ash, a white person, dating Iris, a black person, just feels weird to me."

Kanto is based off Japan, so that makes Ash Asian, not white. Iris' ethnicity isn't mentioned in the anime or games but for all we know she might not be 'black' as you put it. Not all dark skinned people are from Africa. As for your statement, you sound very narrow minded. In Pokemon there are a difference between HUMANS and Pokemon. All humans are the same race so I don't see your point? We live in 2018, not 1950. Maybe you should check the calendar.

"Honestly I think Amourshipping would be more believable because Ash & Serena have known each other since they were younger. And BEFORE you haters attack me with your bs saying “Oh no! No no! They were only with each other for a few minutes and ...more

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10 Iris treats Ash the way she does because she wants to see Ash improve, and because she knows no other way to show Ash that she cares.

Whatever. Iris has never told Ash that he wants to see him improve which is why he calls him a little kid. Iris never taught Ash ANYTHING. Iris isn’t the reason AT ALL why he then decided to be cool and put more effort into battling in XY. Ash doesn’t NEED Iris’s dumb criticism to help him become a better trainer especially since Ash already WAS a good trainer in Diamond & Pearl but then the writers reset Ash’s skill level. Iris only existed in the anime to be a dumb carbon copy of Misty. Misty was handled WAY better than Iris. And also Misty criticizing Ash was honestly okay with me cause Ash had just started his journey back then. - TGBBOD

The Contenders

11 Iris is more deserving of ash than Serena Iris is more deserving of ash than Serena

Serena left home to chase after a boy... she barely even knows. How STUPID! Everyone should want so badly for her to be dumped on her @$$ by ash for being such a moron!

Word of advice: don't ever do something just to chase some guy/girl. Do it for YOURSELF! Good thing Iris knows this. - person5000

I ship Iris and Cilan - TwilightKitsune

12 Iris did some sort of cheer for ash & made cilan do it as well Iris did some sort of cheer for ash & made cilan do it as well

So far, Serena hasn't done something special like this for ash despite her crush on him. To help ash win his last badge though, Iris went out of her way to dress her and cilan up to cheer ash to victory. - person5000

Iris was VERY supportive of Ash and it drives me insane knowing how people love to overlook all the good traits of Iris and focus on her catchphrase (which honestly mean nothing compared to all the good things she has done for/with Ash). She's always cheering for Ash no matter who he is up against, and when she dragged Cilan into this it really shows how much she cares about Ash and his dream to become a pokemon master.
All Serena did was to blush when Ash won and the camera focused on her face. I know the writers are trying to make Serena as likable as possible so she will become a good match with Ash, but when it comes to being supportive, Iris wins. Although the writers never intended Negaishipping to become a thing I wholeheartedly believe they are a great match, at least compared to Amourshipping.

Good callback to Dawn. - HeavyDonkeyKong

And this was pretty much the ONLY good thing Iris EVER did for Ash in BW. Was help Ash by cheering him. Nice try giving us a cool callback to Dawn’s character, Unova writers. But it didn’t work. Iris is still garbage. Honestly why couldn’t they give Serena DAWN’s character trait of being a cheerleader and cheering Ash on? THAT would have been great to see. - TGBBOD

13 Cilan supported Negaishipping

Cilan has said before that Ash and Iris make an interesting recipe together, and he enjoys seeing the two be together, despite the times that they fight. He actually encourages Negaishipping! I have never seen Clemont or Bonnie give out hints of supporting Amourshipping, instead we get #Bonnieknows where Bonnie basically discourages the idea of Serena hooking up with Ash because he will never understand her feelings. - IrisTheChampionKid

Every time someone brings up #Bonnieknows it's towards Serena's feelings for Ash and how she is supportive of Serena trying to win Ash. However, what does Ash think? I don't dislike Bonnie, but did she ever bother to think about how HE might feel? Bonnie only thought about those two getting together because she thought SERENA would do something about it. Ash hasn't done anything noteworthy in return that would make anyone think that he would do something about the situation or even is AWARE about the situation, however.

Cilan, in contrast, HAS considered how both Ash and Iris feel when he sees the two of them together. Whenever they fight, he wants BOTH of them to stop and make up. When they go off to do something together, he leaves them to do so because he supports the both of them getting along and having fun together (Especially when he snapped at them for both being childish towards each other and ruining the meal he was making for the three of them. He made them go off on ...more - IrisTheChampionKid

So what if Bonnie knows? She did nothing to push amourshipping along, nor did or said anything to show she supported it! She would’ve been fine if it did happen, but that doesn’t mean she supported it! That’s like saying I support negaishipping (id be okay with it happening, but don’t care for it).

14 Ash is more mature after his journey with Iris, then the one with Serena

This comment to reason this makes no sense because Dawn was also a good supportive friend that help Ash matured yet he became immature in BW after she left. This is the writers fault, not the characters. Though I agree, Serena didn't help Ash much. Also Ash didn't reset in Pokemon Sun and Moon. He's in a more laid back setting where he's not training as much as he should. He's more lackluster because he's not in the trainer mentality, he's in a student mentality, not that he became immature and stupid. - Rue

But yeah, this is mostly just the writers' fault. They don't really keep Pokemon consistent with the plot anyways. - yungstirjoey666

After his immaturity was pointed out to him by Iris in BW, Ash was WAY better in XY. I like to think that they were secretly Iris knows everything. Forget's time for #IrisKnows (and #CilanKnows as well...he clearly was the first to point out the potential relationship...Cilan is the first true Negaishipper).

After XY...Ash starts from square 0 and goes to school in Alola. And...he doesn't seem like the Trainer that bounces back from Top 8 all the way to Top 2 in the new anime. Sorry,'ve done nothing for Ash that will help him in Alola. Iris, come on back...get Ash out of this terrible situation.

Like I said before, Ash never NEEDED to be criticized by Iris for him to improve. Iris isn’t the reason Ash was more mature in XY. Ash only decided to be mature in XY cause he realized he had really messed up big time in Unova. It was only Ash’s decision for him to improve, not Iris’s. And besides, if this item is really the case, then WHY is it that Ash in Sun & Moon is still mature and confident whenever he’s battling. He’s only choosing to be childish outside of the battles because he’s in a relaxing and fun region based off of Hawaii. So this item clearly states that Serena CAUSED Ash to be the way he is in Alola, whatever... seriously... Once again it was ASH’s CHOICE to be the way he is in Alola, NOT SERENA’s. - TGBBOD

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1. Had more of an actual 'date!'
2. They don't mind hanging out alone together
3. They have better fights
1. They had believable development on their friendship
2. Had more of an actual 'date!'
3. Iris does more than blush at Ash
1. Iris does more than blush at Ash
2. Iris treats Ash the way she does because she wants to see Ash improve, and because she knows no other way to show Ash that she cares.
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