Worst Warrior Cat Couples
The Top Ten
I pick this for a more personal reason. I loved Silverstream, and I didn't expect Graystripe to choose another mate. Millie wasn't the best mother(favoritism) and I don't really like the couple.
They aren't even a good couple, or a good match. I don't feel like they appreciate each other. I didn't expect Graystripe to get another mate. He and Silverstream were so perfect for each other, I don't even think he needs another mate. He should have been done. He and Millie would have been okay as friends, but he just comes back with another mate? What the...
I don't mind that they became a couple after Millie gave up her life to help him get back to the Clans. I don't believe it's rational, or reasonable to not like this couple just because you like Silverstream as Graystripe's mate better. But Millie and Graystripe genuinely care about each other... And sometimes, it feels like Graystripe is Millie's voice of reason, while Millie calms Graystripe down sometimes.
Graystripe and silverstream is the best couple. but I like her because she really cares about briar-kit
The people saying they are both toms are probably homophobic. I have no problem with them being toms. BUT this is a terrible ship. They never even met!
This is so stupid! They are both toms. It annoys me seeing this online
I don't care if they're both male. I support that! But they've never even met, and Ashfur was so terrified when he met Scourge! There's no point in even putting them together! Sure, Ashfur kind of has the same demeanor as Scourge when he's angry (Gets mad at crush and tries to kill her and her children, see 'Squirrelflight surprise' on youtube) but still
Is this some sort of sick joke... Because this is no funnier than any of the humor in SpongeBob's "the splinter" and "pet sitter pat" put together.
Ok guys I love Squirrelflight. But I hate Brambleclaw! Brambleclaw's was training under his EVIL father's influence, and I guess kinds managed to pull through in the end, but still barley. Also did anyone notice how it took him FOREVER to decided to kill Hawkfrost. I mean I understand it's probably not that easy to kill you half brother! I'm not a monster. But if your as "loyal" as you say you are than, well than kill him instead talking! Also it really made me mad when he completely rejected her after the secret about Leafpool's kits came out! I mean he has to stop and think for a second! He would have done the EXACT same thing for Tawnypelt if he was in Squirrelflight's situation. And then if things couldn't get any worse, Jessy comes along and Brambleclaw starts hitting on her! What da heck Brambleclaw! I'm leaving out more reasons because it's too much to write. And I don't hate Brambleclaw all together, he was actually a really good character through out most of The New Prophecy. ...more
They are cute on the outside, but they are actually both horrible cats.
1. Brambleclaw has absolutely no empathy what so ever
- He killed his brother "out of loyalty" instead of actually dealing with the problem
- when he saw Ashfur trying to persuade her to be his mate, he judged him and then dismissed him when he got back together with Squirrelflight
2. Squirrelflight is a female dog (you know what I mean)
- She rejects Ashfur and then ignores him unless she wants to argue with him.
- She truly gets back together with Brambleclaw after he kills his brother
- She dismissed the consequences of building meaningful relationship with other cats other than Brambleclaw.
- She is technically responsible for the death of Ashfur (that may have been an exaggeration) and Hollyleaf running away from Thunderclan because of her recklessness.
- She didn't question her sister's ideas (I'm not saying they were bad)
3. And Ashfur DID love too much. He ...more
No offense, but I disagree with this whole comment. Brambleclaw/star isn't perfect, I'll admit... but that's what makes him a great character. And Squirrelflight is a WAY better character than you made her out to be
I LOVE this couple! They may not be in love every second, but that's what keeps them strong and human (... Cat? ). I love how they bicker.
"You don't trust Hawkfrost! "
"Well, he's dangerous! "
"Is this because he's a son of Tigerstar? That means you don't trust ME! "
"No, I do trust you! "
"No, you don't! "
"Maybe you don't trust me! "
5 minutes later:
"You know I could never be without you, right? "
5 minutes later:
"You don't trust me! "
Ok. First of all, Bramblestar and Squirrelflight fight like every 5 minutes, and Squirrelflight's Hope just explains why this ship sucks even more.
They have absolutely NO CHEMISTRY. She only had a crush on him when he liked her. Like she only went along with it to have a boyfriend or something like some immature elementary kid.
I think they are THE WORST COUPLES IN THE HISTORY OF THE CLANS! I mean, what the hell?! Billystorm cares more about the kits than about Leafstar! I mean, hello? He tried to get the kits to go with him to his kittypet life after the flood!
Seriously? What loyal leader would mate with a kittypet? I know that that's SkyClan, and she might actually like this cat, but still! You'd think a kittypet who mates with a warrior, if they really loved the warrior, would actually give up its life or something? I mean really!
Tawnypaw is right. I mean, I'm an elementary kid, and, really Splashstorm, that's really annoying-Clawpaw
I mean really, Spidreleg showed like NO affection for Daisy, and I don't think they should even have had kits in the first place because he doesn't like them! How in the world did they get together?
Spiderleg showed ZERO affection for Daisy, and he made no effort to see his kits. Daisy is always trying to force him to see the kits, which I can understand, but Spiderleg refused to see them or even train them. I love both characters, but together, they are a complete and utter train wreck.
Spiderleg has never shown affection for Daisy! He has never even tried to get to know their kits and train them to be good warriors! Daisy is also bad because she tried to get together with Cloudtail and almost stole him from Brightheart! :(
I don't blame her for wanting to be with Cloudtail though. And she admitted that Brightheart was the only cat for him so that made up for it a little. - Falconflight
I thought Spiderleg was like one of those cat who would definitely NOT have a kittypet, loner who ever she is as a mate how did they even become mates he shows no affection to her of his kit I bet rosepetal and toadstep don't even know he's their father by the way he acts but he his one of my favorites and I will still love him
Umm... I didn't know they were in love? Which book tells that Sandstorm loved Scourge? Can someone tell me?
Weird! And they never were in love. That's what makes it weird.
Um... Really? This couple is SICK!
This is not a real couple so why the heck should this be on the list!?! I hate it when people make up fake couples so others can hate on something, its ridiculous!
Hate to break to you feathertailand crowfeather fans but Erin hunter stated that feathertail was too old for crowfeather and if you think that it's a bad couple just because they broke the warrior code then you basically have a problem with most of the pairings in the warriors books. Leafpool never stole crowfeather from feathertail. She was DEAD. Did you really want crowfeather to spend the rest of his days in agony because he blamed himself for feathertail's accident. Leafpool gave crowfeather closure. Something he probably never would have gotten otherwise. I don't see why you feather and crow lovers are angry anyways. Crowfeather never forgot feathertail. I mean can anyone really forget their first love.
. This is the worst of the worst. After at least 3 months Crowfeather finds a Mary Sue, damsel that can't do anything. Crowfeather and Feathertail are so meant to be because she opened him up. This couple is as bland as tofu. The ending is painfully predictable. Crowfeather became a giant grump and closed up like a safe. Leafpool became even more helpless then she already was. Whenever the characters have interactions its always Crowfeather saving her. Even worse in Omen of the Stars, he literally says he'll always be by her side. They broke up at least 2 years ago! Crowfeather literally forgot Feathertail bloody died to save his butt! Because she loved him! What did Leafpool do? Break your heart is all. Crowfeather will choose Feathertail in his in no matter what. Final grade: F- -
This was a kind thing to do. People I KNOW it's kinda stupid to cry over someone dead and not go dating someone else. And it's NOT like I'm thinking this: "! Crowfeather and Feathertail should be together not with stupid LEAFPOOL! " Leafpool wasn't even STEALING Feathertail. She actually felt sorry for Feathertail and I'm actually sad for JUST Feathertail not the couple. I think Crowfeather is the worse of all of them. Even if Nightcloud was being a little thirsty. But I would like Crowfeather to be single because he is a idiotic, stupid brat. Leafpool and Feathertail are really nice. Feathertail was so kind she gave away her life to stupid Crowfeather. Just like Bluestar gave her life to Rusty (or Fireheart). I just really miss Feathertail. CURSE YOU SHARPTOOTH AND CROWFEATHER!
I absolutely HATE the Crowfeather and Leafpool relationship. So, Crowfeather used to be even more bratty when he was an apprentice but Feathertail helped him mature. I don't care if Feathertail is to old for Crowfeather! I mean it was TRUE LOVE. The only reason they got together was because Crowfeather was too desperate. LEAFPOOL IS A MEDICINE CAT. And I know Feathertail is Rivercan and Crowfeather is Windclan but y'know LOTS OF OTHER COUPLES ARE FROM DIFFERENT CLANS. It's not fair that Feathertail saved Crowfeather's life because she loved him and then Crowfeather just is so desperate that he takes Leafpool and is like " I NEED SOMEONE TO HOLD ONTO." Honestly I just love Feathertail and I think she's to good for Crowfeather anyway but if she loves him and dies for him he should NEVER look for someone else.
I think these two should never even have THOUGHT of being together! Squirrelflight was only doing it to get Brambleclaw jealous because she thought he didn't love her anymore ( I have no clue why). Ashfur was a great warrior before Squirrelflight went and messed everything up! I hold no grudges against Squirrelfight or Brambleclaw but I can't even start to believe they let Ashfur into starclan! I don't know if any of you noticed but Ashfur tried to KILL Firestar! And Jayfeather, Hollyleaf and Lionblaze! Ashfur doesn't deserve Squirrelflight!
I think Ashfur deserved a better mate. Squirrelflight hated him, and I feel sorry for him. - Oliveleaf
@ "Squirrelflight rejects Ashfur, because she never loved him in the first place.
Ashfur decides tryin to kill her father, and children (well, her adopted ones) is a good way out of it.
It's not as simple as that. Squirrelflight manipulated Ashfur, used him, just to make Brambleclaw jealous. Neither Ashfur or Brambleclaw deserved it.
I agree, Ashfur shouldn't have gone psycho and tried to kill cats because of it, but it wasn't entirely his fault.
I'm not a Hollyleaf hater. In fact, she's my second favorite character (Jayfeather's my fave! ), and I cried when she died. Also, I honestly didn't like Ashfur very much. But I feel for him. And he ended up in StarClan, so he obviously wasn't entirely evil.
Ashfur and Squirrelflight would have been cute, but does ANYONE understand that Sandstorm was actually Ashfur's half sister?!? So, technically, Ashfur was technically Squirrelflight's UNCLE!
Hey, when did Ashfur get Squirrelflight? I thought Brambleclaw was supposed to! Whenever I think of these two, it annoys me, because Squirrelflight's true love is Brambleclaw, the son of Tigerstar.
OK, WHAT THE HECK WAS UP WITH STORMTAIL!? He mates with Moonflower and has awesome kits, then he just dumps her and starts, like, crushing on Dappletail! Wrong, Wrong, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! HE DOESN'T EVEN NOTICE WHEN HIS SO CALLED "MATE" DIES! AND, He doesn't seem to like his kits that much. What a cat, what a cat.
Stormtail never ever even showed affection for moonflower and she made a stupid decisions to have his kits it was infuriating to read how he act when he saw his kits for the first time their eyes were open
Stormtail loved Dappletail the whole time. Even Goosefeather knew that they should not be a couple.
stormtail never loved her
but you know who did?
SUNSTAR MY OTP SCREE
Okay first of all Crowfeather was with Nightcloud AFTER his relationship with Leafpool so he couldn't have left Nightcloud for her, I don't understand why some people think Crowfeather was the MAIN one at fault in these relationships. I mean-Nightcloud was a terrible cat to be honest, it was her fault Breezepelt started hating his father, SHE was the one who turned against him. She was honestly so clingy-in my opinion that's not what you would call love. And to the person who said that Crowfeather "sucks" because he never loved Leafpool and Nightcloud enough, I think it's quite the OPPOSITE, I mean -let's start with Leafpool. Crowfeather was ready to leave behind EVERYTHING HE EVER KNEW just to be with Leafpool-then all of a sudden Leafpool LITERALLY just ditches him after moons of sneaking out of camp and breaking the warrior code to be with her "mate", if you ask me They're both at fault here but Leafpool deserves most of the Blame. And now moving onto the one ...more
OMSC! I feel so bad for Nightcloud, with a stuck-up, arrogant, mouse-brain like Crowfeather! First, he was like, " I ONLY LOVE YOU NIGHTCLOUD! " and then when she had his kits and made him be loyal to Windclan, he was like, " Your ugly! I'm going with Leafpool, the sweet cat who is PRETTIER than you! ". I mean, WHAT THE HADES WAS THAT, CROWFEATHER?! NIGHTCLOUD GAVE YOU KITS AND LOVE AND MADE HIM MORE LOYAL TO WINDCLAN! CROWFEATHER ONLY LOOKED AT LEAFPOOL AND THEN HE WAS LIKE, " Hey Angel, I LOVE you more than my excuse for a mate, Nightcloud" when Nightcloud was right in front of him! In my opinion, Nightcloud deserves better. She is a headstrong, loyal, brave, cat. I love her because in a way, she reminds me of Squirrelflight, they both are feisty, and stubborn! And besides, Crowfeather disliked his own son and treated his other sons better in front of him! He's the reason why Breezepelt became evil. Sorry, Crowfeather and Leafpool fans, I don't like that pairing either. I mean, ...more
Crowfeather didn't think Nightcloud was bad in any way. He respected her, but never truly loved her. He didn't dislike Breezepelt. He says so. Also, Nightcloud is just as bad a parent as Crowfeather. - RoseWeasley
EEE Crowfeather to Nightcloud's depression rescue! I'm only voting for the ones I like ;p
They are so dysfunctional! Why oh why is this below Leaf x Crow? This is way worse! At least in Leaf x Crow it was true love! Night x Crow was a horrible couple. And also they made Breezepelt, who is the worst cat ever.
I actually don't mind this ship that much. Sure, the forbidden love trope is overused, but Dovewing moved to ShadowClan so now it isn't forbidden anymore. Dovewing and Tigerheart/star have a nice heathy relationship now and they care a lot about their family
Honestly, Tigerheart/star really needs to get his priorities in check.
Omen Of The Stars:
Dovewing: The Dark Forest is rising, and my sister is in danger, and evil is all around us and the end of the world is coming! I must save everyone with this huge responsibility I have!
Tigerheart: Yeah, whatever. Wanna go on a date?
Dovewing: *is too disgusted to speak*
Dovewing: I'm having your kits, oh and by the way, I'm going on a long dangerous journey to unknown territory, and I'm gonna go be an awesome female character and raise kits by myself if you don't come. And I'll be crushed if you don't because I love you. See ya, I'm off to go be awesome with or without you!
Tigerheart: Sorry, what? I was just undermining my dad's authority, but not wanting to be leader, and being an indecisive stupid idiot. Wait, where'd she go?
* Tigerheart spend first part of book chasing Dovewing, for the second part she inexplicably forgives him, and for the last ...more
I honestly dislike the Tigerheart x Dovewing ship. They're related! Because if Dovewing is related to Firestar, then she's related to Squirrelflight, which her mate is Bramblestar/claw. They have children. And Tigerstar is Brambleclaw/star's father, and Tigerheart's grandfather is Tigerstar. Nice job for shipping people who were related, and literally states it in the books that the three (Jayfeather, Hollyleaf, Lionblaze) are related to Tigerheart and his siblings, and Dovewing is obviously related to Jayfeather, Hollyleaf, and Lionblaze, otherwise she wouldn't be apart of the prophecy. It irritates me.
I also dislike the ship because they literally just met during the journey and even so, they never talked to each other other than planning on helping the Clan. And now apparently they love each other' so much' because they only planned during the journey. And Dovewing was Dovepaw during that time, like what!
Everyone is related. Seriously, that shouldn't even be a legitimate reason. In cats, it usually takes several generations of inbreeding for problems to show up. Age differences don't really matter either. If you think about it, not that many cats are born within a span of a year.
Their relationship developed over several night meetings. They interacted more than the rest of the forbidden couples.
Don't even get me started on them. I made a huge comment on Dovewing and Tigerstar on the top ten mary sues.
Before I say anything I just want to clarify I love these to characters, Spottedleaf is okay and Firestar's awesome, I like them separately but NOT together. I'm only really stating the scenes I don't like them.
I hate this couple and you wanna know why. Well here is why:
First off, it had ZERO development. All Firepaw (Firestar, whatever) said to acknowledge that he loved her before her death was saying that she was pretty. I mean okay sure you have a small little crush on her, that's fine. Spottedleaf doesn't really seem interested in Firepaw at ALL! Then all of a sudden she dies in the first book. And Firepaw's like "goodbye my sweet Spottedleaf" Well that came out of NO WHERE! The suddenly POOF Spottedleaf starts showing interest in Fireheart once she's dead. Just no. Not to mention all of this is against the code, there is a major age difference here, they barley even knew each other, and the Erin's said that is Spottedleaf lived they would'nt be together! So ...more
I absolutely HATE this couple. They talk about THREE TIMES, with no romantic intentions at ALL, and then Spottedleaf dies. Suddenly, Firepaw is calling her "sweet Spottedleaf". WHAT?! First, Spottedleaf is OLD. She's Redtail's sister, AND she's a Medicine Cat. I know that Spottedleaf is supposed to be guiding Firestar, but after a few books, it feels more like some clingy girlfriend who's stalking her love interest who's ABOUT TWENTY YEARS YOUNGER THAN HER (in human years, since cats mature much faster than humans). She even goes as far as calling him "my love" and saying that if things were different, they might have been mates, despite Firestar having moved on from his childhood crush SEASONS ago. If this weren't messed up enough, she says this RIGHT IN FRONT OF SANDSTORM'S FACE. The romance came out of nowhere, and it really only exists because the Erins said, "Oh no, there aren't any love triangles that include the protagonist! " and "Let's make the main character fall in love ...more
First of all, just saying, Tigerheart x Dovewing is my favorite ship. And here's why I hate Spottedleaf x Firestar...The first reason is they didn't talk that much. Another reason, when Spottedleaf was killed for the 2nd time by Mapleshade, there was this big dramatic moment and Sandstorm just has to remember that Fireheart likes another she0cat better than her and Sandstorm feels bad about herself and so I HATE SpottedxFire.
WHAT?!? NUMBER 13?!?! THESE TWO ARE THE WORST COUPLE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD! Even worse than Katniss and Peeta- which is saying something. First of all spottedleaf is a medicine cat, second she is sandstorm's AUNT (yes she is. Redtail is sandstorm's father and spottedleaf is redtails sister), and therefore spottedleaf is WAY too old for firestar. Plus firestar never even really knew her- for all he knew she could have been a truly evil cat on the inside. Which I think she was. SPOTTEDLEAF GOT WHAT SHE DESERVED WHEN CLAWFACE AND THEN MAPLESHADE KILLED HER FOREVER AND WIPED HER OUT OF EXISTENCE!
Note: PLEASE DON'T THINK ALL SANDSTORM FANS ARE THIS EVIL. THEY AREN'T. I'M JUST VERY VIOLENT ABOUT THIS SUBJECT.
I absolutely hate this too! She was old enough to be his mother and they only talked what, three times in into the wild and then BAM! Love!? They had absolutely NO chemistry!
Sometimes when I look at something, I wonder why it even exists. This ship is one of those things.
I love this ship..
✨Deserves the number 1 spot✨
Come on. This is NOT funny. I do not even have a word strong enough to describe how weird this is. A cat and a piece of wood with markings on it. Jayfeather liked this piece of wood because it was from the Ancient cats, Jayfeather was in love with of THEM. It's not even a living thing! Give me a thumbs-up if you agree.
I agree with the original comment. I mean COME ON PEOPLE! It's a stick! He is attached to it because it has connections with the ancient cats and Half Moon. NOT because he loves the stick itself! I sometimes cannot believe how people can be so mouse-brained. - Falconflight
Mrs. stick will have to be moving to the nursery soon laugh out loud
The best couple of all the warrior books to be honest.
SERIOUSLY WHY FOR THE LOVE OF STARCLAN IS THIS ON HERE?! THIS IS THE BEST SHIP IN THE BOOKS! 1-It is not forbidden 2-they are not related 3-they are always there for each other 4-it WOOD make a touching fanfiction
Wait since when was this a couple?
They're not exactly a couple; Darkstripe was just her mentor. I personally liked Ferncloud and Dustpelt together. They were so cute!
Fernpaw deserved better than Doopstripe so she picked Dustpelt.
STUPID! It was Fernpaw and Dustpelt, read this books over and over again so I know
Raggedstar was always there for Yellowfang and her back to him! I understand Raggy's anger towards Yellowfang's decision to be a medicine cat.
Raggedstar is a stupid, arrogant tom that NEVER, EVER cared for Yellowfang. Yellowfang loved him since she was an apprentice, and all Raggedstar did to her was brush her to the side. He even went as far as FLIRTING with Foxheart and letting her do the same to him in FRONT of Yellowfang. And when Yellowfang told him she was pregnant with his kits? The first thing he said to her was "We have nothing to say to each other." And then he goes: "Oh! There going to be MY kits! They'll be leaders and deputies and warriors and queens! "
Really Raggedstar? Brokentail should have never been his kit and once Brokentail was born, bye-bye Yellowfang COMPLETELY. The only romance seen between these two was when Raggedstar was distracting Yellowfang or something... And that shows the relationship between the two was never a love relationship.
Yellowfang EVEN found Raggedstar's dad with him. She encouraged him to find out who his father was. Raggedstar never ONCE said thank you to her abou ...more
I personally love yellowfang she's inspirational ( my favorite word) and a great character at heart. I had the stinging sensation raggedpelt was AWESOME and PERFECT for her I read opinions and I realized people hated them together suddenly I realized the only "falling in love" motion they had was were I was in yellowfang's secret! That made me furious because they are so not falling in love! Now I HATE raggedpelt and I mean seriously he's mad at yellowfang because he wants her to CLAIM the kits! She can't do that! She'll get exiled it makes you think he doesn't care if she's exiled and he probably doesn't! I mean I HATE him so much I hope they aren't together in StarClan! (grunt) if he deserves that place
He flirted with Foxheart only to make Yellowfang jealous. He tried to convince her to become a warrior, so that it wouldn't be complicated. I think it was good that he payed more attention to his son than Yellowfang. You guys are like: HE'S A HORRIBLE MATE! HE PAYED MORE ATTENTION TO HIS SON MORE THAN YELLOWFANG! But you guys don't even realize it wouldn't work out. It took him a long time to realize it, but he did.
Heatherpaw just annoys me. She can't stop and think and understand, she is just an annoying weasel who can't even say sorry and calm down but then asks for forgiveness when she doesn't even deserve it! Lionpaw deserves someone much much better than that. Heatherpaw can't even understand that Lionpaw has his decisions and his own life too! She gets angry with him for wanting to stop meeting her to be a loyal warrior! What? That's just WRONG Heatherpaw!
I love them there my favorite couple I'm fine with people that disagree with my option but I think they should have been together. plus Cinderheart was (please don't hate me) annoying to me she was like I don't know but she told lionblaze they couldn't be together because he had powers I'm sorry I just disagree with some people
Heathertail is annoying not Cinderheart! The reason Cinderheart broke up with Lionblaze was because she didn't want to interfere with the prophecy! Not because she thought he was weird or anything.
I don't think they should be a couple because in long shadows when they were fighting lionblaze kinda harrased her
Lionpaw, he didn't listen to Heather when she was telling the truth. Of course she'd be upset if lion didn't want to see her anymore because she thought they had something! He was then winging that she was horrible when she did nothing. This was the start of my hate towards Lion
This couple is the worst mistake ever! Rowanclaw is such a bad mate for Tawnypelt. In Starlight page 190-191 he clearly thinks Tawnypelt is disloyal since she defends her brother. He made a big fuss how she was half clan. That was super mean of him! Then later, once they are mates, Rowanclaw stands up for Tawnypelt in Outcast, page 131. He says it is nonsense to say that Tawnypelt is disloyal! What is going on here? Well get this: Vicky says the reason why she made them mates is because she felt bad about Rowanvlaw's gender mistakes! So really Tawnypelt should be with a nice tom who didn't bully her in the past. TAWNYPELT YOU CAN DO MUCH BETTER THAN HIM! - Oaklight
Hey, why are they on this list? Sure he bullied her but later he is really affectionate towards her and it actually says in night whispers that their grown up kits started playing around them and she licked his shoulder. This is a darn cute couple!
This couple is a total MESS. They should never have been together. First of all Rowanclaw didn't even like tawnypelt. He was mean to her in starlight on page 190 and 191. Rowanclaw clearly thinks she is disloyal. Then after they get together Rowanclaw stands up for her. In outcast, page 131 says its nonsense to say that tawnypelt is disloyal. What is going on here? And get this: Vicky made them mates only because she felt bad for messing up on Rowanclaw's gender. THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER BECAME MATES AT ALL. Tawnypelt can do better then him, we all know she can. This is definitely a horrible couple, why did Erin do this? I think it makes tawnypelt stupid to get together with Rowanclaw.
This couple is SO messed up! They should not even be mates. Rowanclaw was horrible to Twnypelt before! The only reason that they are a couple is that Vicky felt bad that she messed up on Rowanclaw's gender. He was so mean to call Tawnypelt disloyal. TAWNYPELT YOU CAN DO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS! - Oaklight
Worst couple EVER! Tawnypelt deserves a good mate, not a mean one! She should have been mates with another cat who was nicer but no it had to be Rowanclaw her worst enemy! Everyone should vote for this couple cause they no good. Rowanclaw bullied her we would she ever become mates with him!
Um...to the person who thinks Spottedleaf is not too young for Firestar... Firestar was FIVE MOONS old when he joined ThunderClan. If he were human, he would have been TEN. Spottedleaf was FOUR YEARS old. That's the equivalent of a human THIRTY-TWO years old. She was old enough to be his mother! Proof? Her brother was Redtail, who was the father of Sandstorm, who is Firestar's age.. Not only that, they had no development what-so-ever. He talked to her three-four times, and all of a sudden they're in love? Plus she stalks him in StarClan. Read Spottedleaf's Honest Answer. She admits she watches him DAY AND NIGHT. He even asked her to stop, but she still stalks him. Gross.
Sandstorm did start being nice to him after he saved her. If you actually looked in the books, you would read Fireheart noticed Sandpaw staring down at the gorge. That's when she realized he had saved her. At first, she thought he was trying to protect her. Then she started being nice to him. In Fire and Ice. ...more
To the person who said spottedleaf is "perfect": the person you're contradicting wasn't listing Sandstorm's flaws, they were listing the reasons she was too perfect. Spottedleaf isn't a Mary Sue! As shown in "Spottedleaf's Honest Answer", she's jealous and regretful, struggles with putting her destiny before her personal preferences and is the only character to die twice- why? Because Erin didn't want Firestar to have to choose between her and Sandstorm in StarClan. That is the WORST reason EVER for killing of a character. Also, I think it's really touching that she continues to love and care for the cats who were in her life after her death. It reminds us all that there is always something to hope for even when days get darkest.
And to be honest, when Fireheart saves Sandstorm I'm pretty sure she makes a snarky remark to him after, not positive what it was. I do think Sandstorm only loved him when he was becoming a powerful warrior, and what you DIDN'T ...more
Firestar was not too young for Spottedleaf (? ). We can assume he started training late because he had been a kittypet so long, and Spottedleaf had just become a medicine cat. I'm pretty sure medicine cat training isn't like apprenticeship, and the amount of time before they get their full name varies based on skill and speed of learning. I think at most she would've been like four moons older?
Also, she didn't start liking him after he saved her. The first thing she said after he saved her from imminent death was hissing "I can fight my own battles! " It's quite obvious that she started liking him later, and when he had more power.
"But without Sandstorm there wouldn't be Squirrelflight, Leafpool, or the Three! " You say. You are correct, but without Sandstorm there would be no need for any of them. Sandstorm made the decision to move to the lake. The cats could've stayed in the forest, as Thunderclan has more territory than any other clans, and it ...more
You pointed out her flaws, yet you say she's a Mary-Sue? Being a good hunter doesn't make her a May-Sue. She has genuine flaws, she got plenty of scars during battles. Let's look at Spottedleaf, shall we?
-EVERYONE thinks she's pretty
-Is a one-dimensional love interest
-Been in forbidden relationships (A large Mary-Sue pointer)
-Loved automatically by cats she barely knew
Sandstorm's the Mary Sue? Yeah, right.
I don't like fire and sand, not because of any other cats but because Sandstorm practically ruled the clan for him. If he hadn't ever saved her life, I think she'd still hate him probably. Sandstorm pretty much made all of Firestar's important decisions. It was constantly "Gosh, wonder what I should do? " "Do THIS, Firestar." And even if Spottedleaf and Cinderpelt WERE medicine cats, I'm sure they would have been much more supportive mates and actually talked to him in intelligent conversations instead of ordering him around all day.
Now, don't get me wrong, I like Sandstorm as a character. I think she would have made a better antagonist had Erin developed her story better. But Firestar was old enough to have a mate, and people were going to want some romance in the books, so I think she sort of mashed Sandstorm in there- which is not wrong in any way, just not in my opinion the best decision.
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He was WAY too old for her. I mean, he was almost certainly the leader before she was even born. It must have taken ages for him to even become a 'last life' leader. All the other couples at least were not a grandad with a kit. It's kinda creepy.
He was a leader on his 6th-7th life when she was born. Just think, before that he had to lose 5-6 lives, be deputy, have an apprentice, become a warrior, pass his final assessment as an apprentice, and be a 6 moon old kit. Why! Couldn't leopardfoot have chosen thrushpelt or- just someone else!
Kinda awkward 0.0 I mean Pinestar is way older than Leopardfoot but these are wild cats they need to produce kits
In the ultimate guide it states it was supposedly hard for him to leave his mate, and he knew his kit would be ambitious. Guess he thought being a kittypet was way better.
Bumblestripe: Hi Dovewing you're cute wanna be mates?
Bumblestripe: *Runs away and cries in the middle of camp*
A random cat: Whats wrong?
Even though I hate dovewing, even I can admit bumblestripe was kind of a creep towards her. He ALWAYS talks about having kits when he sees her.
Sorry BumbleDove people, I have a really hard time shipping this. Bumblestripe is just really pushy and Dovewing is clearly not interested. She's better off with Tigerheart/star
Ugh this is a horrible couple. Hollyleaf DIED because they didn't know a power for her. Then they take Dovewing. Ugh. Erin said that she thought his name sucked, she also thought of him as a friend, and really, It was also said that Ivy x Bumble would happen. Also yes Tiger is immature, but at least he was nice, (Not that Bumble isn't) and he does kinda love her. I DON"T KNOW WHAT HE WAS THINKING WHEN HE TOOK DOVEWING I MEAN REALLY BUMBLE! These are my thoughts. I do not have anything against Bumble, a little for Dove but she loves her sister and that's why I don't hate her.
How the heck is this couple bad? They were the parents of Stonefur, Mistystar, and Mosskit! This is naming every single couple!
EW. Where do I began? So first of all, Bluestar's Prophecy RUINED this ship. For like 6/7 of the book, Bluestar hates Oakheart, and when Oakheart tells her to meet him at Fourtrees, she agrees?! WHY? That part where they meet at Fourtrees was SO cringy to read. Uhrg. Anyways, this ship has no backgroud, and it was way more like a One Night Stand. Even Rose X Blue is better, and I hate that ship as well. Also, their kits all suck. Except for the Mosskit one, she rocks. - Frostheart
I really disagree with anyone who says that Bluestar is an idiot. HIGHLY DISAGREE! But remember, she did say to Fireheart that she was young and stupid when she met him at a gathering. So maybe she regrets choosing him as a mate. But don't judge my following decision because AGE DOESN'T MATTER PEOPLE! I honestly think that Bluestar should be with Fireheart.
I wish that bluestar wasn't such an idiot. She went with oakheart when she could have gone with thrush pelt or even crooked jaw! Thrush pelt did everything in his power to make bluestar happy and she just pushed him away, then friend zoned him!
I don't think Tigerstar cared about whether she was a rogue or not. An evil cat like him would most likely want to mate with her to produce kits that he would train and make evil. Like if you agree.
He didn't love her...
I cried when I read the books of Sasha and Tigerstar. Tigerstar should have stopped for 1 second and asked himself "Will this effect me or Sasha in the future? "
So, I don't like the couple but Tigerstar hated rogues and must have loved her a lot
I have read Crowfeather's Trial. And that book really made me love this ship, and love Heathertail, Breezepelt and even Nightcloud a lot more. Breezepelt will never NOT be a arrogant cat. But he is no longer the evil, blinded by hatred cat he was. And most of it is thanks to his family, including Crowfeather and Heathertail. Heathertail really helped him when he was hated by most of the clan in this Super Edition, but Heathertail trusted and loved him for who he was, because she knew he had changed. And with this they build a wonderful and healthy relationship.
Breezepelt is the most arrogant, stuck-up, bossy, mouse-brained piece of fox dung ever in the entire warrior series! He hates everyone and is arrogant in Power Of Three, and he gets even worse in Omen of the Stars as he attacks Jayfeather and Poppyfrost and plots with the Dark Forest! What happens to him in the Last Hope? I don't remember, but he dosen't deserve Heathertail. He doesn't deserve ANY mate! Rot in the Dark Forest Breezepelt!
They are so stuck-up and arrogant that it's perfect
Breezepelt doesn't deserve a mate. He's evil and a jerk.
They are not even real mates, they are legit sister and brother.
They are not a couple and NEVER will be. They are brother and sister! It's just not right.
Wow...What is wrong with some people. They're brother and sister
What the they are brothers and sisters! Whoever made up this name is mouse-brained!