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Disgustingly high taxes. Many Norwegian conservatives often refer to the country as "the last Soviet state".
Every summer my family visits Norway - Catacorn
They're like the other Scandinavian countries but with a practically collectivized oil industry. I'm a social democrat, but that's close to pure socialism. - Caleb9000
I lived in Norway for 12 years. I left because I was taxed so harshly. As a single guy with no dependants, the vast majority of my earnings went to the state. I paid an income tax close to 40%, a sales tax of 25%, and countless other taxes or hidden fees. There is a T.V. tax; of somewhere around 2500kr per year - if you have a T.V. you must pay it. There is a road tax. There are road tolls. Alcohol is taxed something extreme and is mostly only available through government alcohol shops. Vehicles are often cost double or more than what you would pay elsewhere, because of various vehicle taxes. If you are healthy and motivated then Norway is a horrible place to live - as you will get no benefit from their “free” healthcare. If you are sick, lazy, a single parent etc - then move to Norway, you can continue living off the hard work of others (or a sovereign wealth fund paid for by oil)V 2 Comments
How about "Sweden isn't for the swedes? " Or "Rape capital of Europe" The government cares nothing for its native people; only Muslims and blacks from Africa matter. Highest taxes and all money and programs are for those invaders. The government lies about crimes, brainwashed our youth. Being"islamaphobic" is a crime but Muslims raping swedes is ok as they are seldomly punished. Sweden is by far the worst on any list. Money for rapists but nothing for the victims.
Basically they think all the Nordic countries are the socialist countries, I think that is true.
You know they're moving away from failed socialist policies, right?
Everyone's favorite to point to. - Caleb9000
I also read some comparative survey reports indicating that since about 2-3 decades Danes have been showing the highest degree of happiness and satisfaction with life in the world. - Metal_Treasure
One of the strongest welfare states in the world, also said to be the happiest country on earth. - Caleb9000
RE visitor comment: "how you're defining that", objective/subjective criteria, etc. I am not defining anything - these things are defined and measured by experts that know more than you and me. I just love reading.
These ARE objective criteria, each one having empirically measurable sub-criteria/indicators. Indicators are measured by credible international organizations. - Metal_Treasure
The least popular of the Scandinavian countries. - Caleb9000
"Political environment, education, and quality of life" are not "objective criteria," but subjective "criteria." As to "economic dynamism, " not sure how you're defining that, as Finland's per-capita GDP is at $41,000, while that of the U.S. is at $52,000, even with more than 90 million adults not
in the labor force, and tens of millions more "underemployed."
No, they don't "know more than you and me." Maybe you. You are submitting to the logical fallacy of the "argument from authority." Politics can NEVER be seen as "objective." If they were, you and I would not be having this argument. Education iquality is subjective, as not everyone agrees that education should be indoctrination, or the teaching of revisionism or otherwise useless information. Quality of life is about as subjective a determination as there is, e.g., You think life in a collectivist society where the rights of the individual are sacrificed to the state is just great. I think nothing could stink more. Who are these "credible international organizations" that you trust more than your common sense?V 1 Comment
I live in the Netherlands and most people don't mind paying taxes. The Netherlands has a great taxing system which works great. Parents get money to take care of their children, eldery people get money so they can care for theirselves, and people without a job, or unable to work get money so they can stay alive. Schools are subsidized and offer great education, including international projects and exchanges. Taxes here work great and I love that the Netherlands is quite socialist.
Of course the "visitor" was "exaggerating." He was taking a poke at the way the uninformed exaggerate life in the mythical Utopian paradise. While the per-capita GDP of the Netherlands is roughly comparable to that of the U.S., workforce participation in the U.S. is below 50 percent, meaning the U.S. is FAR more productive on a per-capita basis. Further, the Netherlands' personal income tax rate is 52 percent, and its social security tax rate is over 28 percent, for a combined tax rate of over EIGHTY PERCENT. This is orders of magnitude above the average tax burden in America. The Dutch can get away with this because they are a tiny nation with a relatively homogenous demographic (which has little appreciation of true liberty), relatively little infrastructure, relatively low unemployment rate, and this is key-- they needn't spend many hundreds of billions maintaining that mighty Dutch military. NATO-- meaning the U.S.-- guarantees their security. And NO NATO country pays its "fair ...more
"80 percent tax". No, I don't want to pay that. I also don't have over 3,000,000 euros. - Caleb9000
A generally overlooked yet prosperous economy - Caleb9000
Look. Done bangin' my head against the wall, here. If you want to pay EIGHTY percent of your income in taxes, TWENTY-FIVE percent in taxes on everything you buy, and have government dictate every aspect of your being, cradle to grave... then by all means, get yourself some wooden shoes or Birkenstocks or whatever Dutch flower children wear, and hie yourself off to the Low Country. Bon voyage.V 5 Comments
It's like USA, but better
Yes. And keep your Marxism on your own side of the border.
Greatest healthcare system in the world - Caleb9000
The most corrupt on the list. - Caleb9000
Possibly the poorest, but as wealth poors in faster, the economy improves. - Caleb9000
Poor due to lack of money and rain forest bulldozing, but functions better than the rest of Central America in economic prosperity terms. - Caleb9000
Who tf voted for this? Literally one of the most extreme capitalist societies to ever exist. Highest income inequality/ wealth disparity of all countries. - markusw0207
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