Metal Bands that are Often Considered the Best of Their Sub-Genre Even Though Most of Their Songs Aren't from that Sub-Genre
This is NOT an hate list to any of these bands.I actually agree with some of these bands being considered the best of the sub-genre and with some others i don't.
Black Sabbath were a Heavy Metal band formed in Birmingham, England in 1968 by guitarist and songwriter Tony Iommi, singer John "Ozzy" Osbourne, bassist and main lyricist Geezer Butler and drummer Bill Ward.The band became mainstream after improving after their debut album got panned. In 1978, Osbourne was fired and replaced with former Rainbow vocalist Ronnie James Dio. Who went to release 2 albums before leaving in 1983, only for Osbourne to return in 1992. ...read more.
Black Sabbath in any metal sub-genre isn't warranted to be considered the best of that field, only as one of the influencers of metal
True. Most of their songs aren't doom metal.
Megadeth is an American thrash metal band from Los Angeles, California. Megadeth was formed in 1983 by guitarist Dave Mustaine and bassist David Ellefson, shortly after Mustaine was fired from Metallica. They have released 15 studio albums to date, and have gone through many lineup changes, with Dave Mustaine being the sole constant member.They released their debut album “Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good!” in 1985, but became successful after the release of “Peace Sells...But Who’s Buying?” in 1986. ...read more.
Most of their songs aren't thrash metal
Motörhead were an English heavy metal band formed in June 1975 by bassist, singer, and songwriter Ian Fraser "Lemmy" Kilmister, who was the sole constant member; guitarist and songwriter Larry Wallis; and drummer Lucas Fox. The band's harsh vocals and fast paced tempos helped inspire speed metal and thrash metal. @Alkadikce - the list Top Ten Speed Metal Bands is awfully messed up. But I somewhat agree with you about Speed Metal Bands - most of the bands who play speed metal are either power metal or thrash metal bands. It's because speed metal is between power metal and thrash metal: thrash metal is power metal+punk, so speed metal is like thrash metal without punk. Give a listen to Majesty by Blind Guardian - it's very fast and it's heavier and more aggressive than power metal but it doesn't have punk and because of that it's less abrasive and more melodic than thrash.
I don't really consider Motorhead "speed metal" (they even stated themselves that they don't consider themselves metal)
Honestly, I don't think there is such thing as a pure speed metal band (most bands are more heavy, thrash, or power), although there are some songs that I would consider "speed metal," such as Painkiller by Judas Priest, and maybe a couple of the more melodic Metallica and Megadeth songs
Metallica is an American Heavy/Thrash Metal band formed in 1981. The original lineup was James Hetfield (Vocalist and Rhythm guitarist), Dave Mustaine (Lead Guitar), Lars Ulrich (Drums), Ron McGovney (Bassist). The group came into mainstream from their Self-Titled album and the hit single "Enter Sandman".With their first two albums, Kill 'Em All and Ride The Lightning reaching underground success, their third effort, Master of Puppets has since become one of the most important heavy metal albums ever, as it became the first thrash metal album to be certified platinum. The title track has since become the band's most played song live. ...read more.
I would disagree with this, sure they transitioned away from Thrash with their black album to make some hard rock albums, but even now with their newer albums there is very much a Thrash element to their music.
It is easy to take a crap on them for make those hard rock albums but to act like them being considered one of the best Thrash metal bands is a slap to Thrash metal is just insulting.
I don't think they should be considered the best with bands like Slayer that have stay true to Thrash metal throughout their whole career, but I can understand why people would
Most of their songs are heavy metal. Even though their first album was thrash
So according to this list, there's only one thrash band in the big four.
Yeah some of there songs were slower thrash metal or just heavy metal I think. Most of Kill ‘Em All was Thrash though.
Black Sabbath were a Heavy Metal band formed in Birmingham, England in 1968 by guitarist and songwriter Tony Iommi, singer John "Ozzy" Osbourne, bassist and main lyricist Geezer Butler and drummer Bill Ward.The band became mainstream after improving after their debut album got panned. In 1978, Osbourne was fired and replaced with former Rainbow vocalist Ronnie James Dio. Who went to release 2 albums before leaving in 1983, only for Osbourne to return in 1992. ...read more.
I agree with this item - they are nowhere near the best from the subgenre of Heavy Metal. And yes, most of their songs aren't exactly Heavy Metal.
Bathory was a Swedish Black/Viking Metal band formed in 1983 by Quorthon and Jonas Åkerlund. Bathory's first 4 albums layed the blueprint for Scandinavian Black Metal. Quorthon is often credited with creating the "shrieking" vocal style of Black Metal. Their 5th album, Hammerheart (1990) displayed old school Heavy Metal with a Nordic folk twist, creating Viking Metal. Majority of their work was Viking Metal , but Bathory is most well known for their first 4 , which proved influential to many future Black Metal bands. Bathory ended in 2004 when Quorthon died of heart failure. I remember, I knew black metal was something even darker and heavier than death metal, so I went on the list best black metal bands and found Bathory at the top. I tried out some songs of them, and I was surprised "is this that genre everybody is talking about as the heaviest thing ever? ".
Anthrax is an American thrash metal band from New York City, formed in 1981 by guitarist Scott Ian and bassist Dan Lilker. That's true. They should be higher than Metallica because they have less thrash songs than Metallica. Many Anthrax songs are speed metal, etc.
Helloween is a German power metal band founded in 1984 in Hamburg, Northern Germany. The band is a pioneering force in the power metal genre, and their second and third studio albums, Keeper of the Seven Keys: Part I and Part II, are considered masterpieces of the genre. True. They have 2-3 speed metal songs on their debut album but that's it, basically. Many people think that I Want Out and Eagle Fly Free are speed metal, LOL.
Megadeth is an American thrash metal band from Los Angeles, California. Megadeth was formed in 1983 by guitarist Dave Mustaine and bassist David Ellefson, shortly after Mustaine was fired from Metallica. They have released 15 studio albums to date, and have gone through many lineup changes, with Dave Mustaine being the sole constant member.They released their debut album “Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good!” in 1985, but became successful after the release of “Peace Sells...But Who’s Buying?” in 1986. ...read more.
To me it seems kind of redundant to call a thrash band technical, thrash music is pretty technical on its own, but this band doesn't have much songs that are technical
What's next? Calling them neoclassical metal just because of the beginning of Last Rites / Loved to Death?
Yes, it's a stretch to call them technical thrash metal, let alone the best at it.
Death was an American death metal band formed in 1983 by Chuck Schuldiner. Death is considered to be one of the most influential bands in heavy metal and a pioneering force in death metal. Its debut album, Scream Bloody Gore, has been widely regarded as the first death metal record, while the band's driving force, Chuck Schuldiner, is acknowledged as the "Godfather of Death Metal." Death released 7 studio albums, and are the band that started the Florida Death Metal scene. They were known for their death metal classics Lack of Comprehension and Crystal Mountain. Death ended in 2001 when Schuldiner died of Brain Cancer. I don't get this item to be honest. Most of their songs, or all their songs ARE death metal. I wonder what other genre did they play...For me Death never fully became technical and progressive death metal - in the 90s Chuck just removed a lot of hardcore punk and as a result death metal became more "metal" than in the 80s - the 1st wave of the 80s was with too much punk to get brutality. Chuck added more technical elements just because metal is more technical than punk. However, Death was the band that influenced the most all those newer technical death metal bands, bands that took technicalities to a whole another level.
Their first three albums were pure death metal after which they turned their back on the genre and started playing retarded and boring prog metal to appeal to the masses. No, their music didn't became technical or complex, instead they became more accessible, which is evident from the sudden spike in sales of records. More than half of modern so called death metal fans only listen to diluted pseudo-death metal albums like Symbolic, Human etc etc
Carcass are a British extreme metal band from Liverpool, who formed in 1985 and disbanded in 1995. A reformation was enacted in 2007 without one of its original members, drummer Ken Owen, due to health reasons. So this list isn't about metal sub-genres then, just metal bands considered the best of a sub-genre no matter the genre that sub-genre is under?
I love Nightwish, but just because they put some emotionally sad songs does not make them true "gothic."