Top 10 Reasons to Hate Bayonettabugger I am going to talk Bayonetta from Super Smash Bros, sometimes I'll talk about her game
The Top Ten
Not everybody hates her only for that. Why are you so doggone defensive? Her raunchy self brought nothing all that wonderful and new to the table as it was, there was nothing indicating or implying she or her games were so popular people wanted her in above literally any other game character ever even ones owned by Nintendo themselves, and did I mean her raunchiness thus ruining what's supposed to be an E10+ rated game (toning down didn't help, what if someone- possibly a kid- now wanted to go check out that "Devil May Cry Penthouse Edition" that is her original game where she's not toned down). Not to mention people who didn't buy her still had to waste time and disk space on an update solely for her- that's sounds like ruining to me.
If I wanted a game with a barely-dressed woman wielding actual deadly weapons, I'd play a Mortal Kombat game of my choice instead of Super Smash Bros. And I tried to get into the Bayonetta series itself but I couldn't, all I saw was a pathetic rip-off of Devil May Cry that people only seem to love because yay female protag who gets away with stuff a male character wouldn't have and other female characters somehow didn't before. A series whose existence I now can't just ignore because the fans swarmed the Smash Ballot and Nintendo gave in to them.
Thank you Nintendo for putting Bayonetta in Super Smash Bros. She ruins the game! - bugger
She and her overrated "badass" self and the fact that violence, crude humor, and oversexualiton were her game's big selling points have no place in what was once a fun celebration of Nintendo (who remember has and usually tries to maintain a family-friendly image) as a company, especially since she's not first-party. Also, she wasn't anything resembling "iconic" and next to nobody save a small cult who obviously voted and voted often on that stupid Samsh Poll even cared about her games and now she's getting two Amiibos and already was nigh-inevitable to fight online even for those who didn't download her.V 5 Comments
And kids are going to take an interest in her game now that she's found her way into Smash 4.
Try telling the kids who play her or any other M rated game just to prove how "grown-up" they are
I am not a kid, I am just a dude who hates Rated M. I want to be child friendly - bugger
When the "Tomb Raider" series started, much was made over the shocking sexiness of its lead, Lara Croft. It's like the creator of Bayonetta set forth to top that, and indeed Lara looks like a Puritan next to Bayonetta.
I guess the creator of Lara Croft must have snuck his way into sega.
The back of her dress is too revealing. She shows more skin as Wario's Skin. - bugger
Her winning the ballot and Nintendo going through with putting her in rather than consider the highest ranked character from a game rated no more than T just shows me that if enough people had voted General Custer with a... thing certain over-advertised perscription medicines supposedly help a guy with wearing nothing but a cowboy hat and bandana (and yes this was indeed from a video game) he would have made it in. Or if enough people had voted for the heroine of "Jungle Fever", a naked chick who lactates out a fire to save a naked guy being burned at the stake, she would have made it in without a second thought. That scares me beyond words.
She technically didn't even really win. Being "very popular in Europe" (the number three market behind the US and Japan) and "within the top five" (if she'd actually been number one they would have just said so) were the reasons given for her inclusion.
I'm not a huge StarFox fan or anything, but I could've sworn lots of people were hoping for Krystal. Did they just assume she'd win and not vote? How was she not "realizable" if that was the problem? I am not and will never be convinced more people wanted Bayonetta, especially since Nintendo didn't say she actually won.
Even Lightning McQueen would be a better choice than BaneonettaV 1 Comment
Metal Gear is Snake's game but seriously, Snake is infinite times better than Bayonetta...
Oh wait, I thought I hate Rated M. I only like the look of Snake. - bugger
That may be, but Snake wasn't a good fit for Smash Bros either.
Snake may be from an M rated game but at least he wasn't a walking bad S&M fantasy.
The Metal Gear series had a good plot and engaging characters, didn't feel like something seen many times before, and just on the whole feels like much more effort went into it (well at least the ones made with Kojima's involvement).
Whereas the Bayonetta games just scream "let's see what we can get away with and still get published".
With the glasses and the hair she reminds me too much of Sarah Palin
Bayonetta is very ugly
The glasses makes me think that she looks like a nerd! - bugger
What's wrong with nerds? - ParkerFang
I'm pretty sure that's the real reason she supposedly "won". By "realizable" they meant "can just re-skin a model we already have so we don't have to build a new one".
This was supposedly addressed with the most recent software update, but now we run into the "can't just not buy her" problem because now everyone's whining about how she was nerfed.
Before one of her daddies, husbands, sons, brothers, or lovers tries to "correct" this by whining that she was nerfed, yes there was that patch whose sole purpose was that, but it really didn't do that much good except to said fanboys and scrubs who use her and no one else.
Noobs abused the heck out of her, even morseso than Cloud.
It's mostly the Peach, Zelda, and Rosalina haters who would think this, though Link, Mario, Dedede, Meta Knight, Paluntena, Wario, Yoshi, Marth, and Pit are also subject to being called "lame-os" or whatnot and yay now being able to have "sexiest/most badass character ever" beat up on them. Meanwhile, I can't even hate the Duck Hunt dog anymore, in Smash he's just too cute!
Previous commenter forgot Robin. Everyone ignores if not hates him/her, and now here's the great, wonderful, awesome, perfect Bayonetta to give that guy/chick a "well deserved" beating. Though at least I can say that the one time I've ever faced a Bayonetta online, the joke was on them because they had to hear the announcer say "The winner is... Robin" (played by me) and they ended up in FOURTH place.
Bad enough everyone showed this attitude with Snake in Brawl.
Worse, I'm sure more than a few people decided to buy "Smash" because they heard she was in it (or saw/bought at least one of her Amiibos depending on when you're reading this), then bought her upon realizing she was DLC for the sole purpose of beating up all the other characters in the game because they're all "lame" (yes, even Samus and Link) and she's so badass.V 1 Comment
Unfortunately that hasn't stopped people from shipping her with Pit.
As if there have never been evil angels before in anything ever, person who brought up "because they're evil in her game" as a defense.
That's supposed to be a good thing, but even though I'm not religious I don't think it is.
And yet nearly everybody on this site worships her as if she were an angel.V 2 Comments
Someone from the Soul Caliber would have made a lot more sense, even. If for no other reason than bringing full circle the fact that Link was in one of their games.
That said, Cloud and Snake don't fit with Smash Bros, either.
Like most of the characters relegated to mere Assist Trophies and most if not all the characters who only "appear" as Mii costumes (who uses Miis at all let alone whatever costumes for them in this game anyway)? Ashley, Waluigi, Takumaru, The Prince of Sable, Shadow the Hedgehog, Saki Amamiya, Lyn (yes, I KNOW she'd be Yet Another "Fire Emblem" Character), and Magnus, anyone (all Assist Trophies)? How about KK Slider, Lloyd Irving, Tails, Knuckles, Geno, King K. Rool, and the Inklings (Mii suits)?
Maxwell From SCRIBBLENAUTS - Devonchi
Let's be honest, Dante and "Devil May Cry" didn't really bring anything new and exciting to the table themselves (not to mention Dante would also be a terrible ft for "Smash Bros." despite his popularity). Bayonetta- game and character- only get a pass because third-wave feminism.
She's not boring, but is "not boring" for the wrong reasons
And that's all she is. Boring.
Maybe her design is different, but at the end of the day her games really are just Devil May Cry starring a woman, and because it's a woman she has to dress in a way that just barely gets the game an M rating instead of an AO rating instead of getting her ow version of the most iconic red coat this side of Carmen Sandiego.V 3 Comments
Earlier "Smash" games already spawned crossover pairings, most of which were quite random, many downright weird, and very few (like can be counted on one hand) that made a lick a sense AND weren't because of how they looked together. Now that Bayonetta's in there, SHE'S going to be paired with anyone and everyone else in the game. And knowing her, "paired" if we're lucky if you know what I mean!
She's being shipped with Pit and Palutena even though she'd sooner kill them.
Whether you download her or not, that stupid notification of her availability "in all her glory" still shows up on the main menu screen, and since she was the last DLC addition we're all going to be seeing that notification forever. Also people raving about her inclusion-- and judging you if you don't have her yourself.
How about the fact that those who did indeed "just not buy her" still had to install an update that was ALL about her?
Wrong maybe she didn't replace Wolf since Wolf was already cut to begin with but as was mentioned elsewhere on this list she didn't actually "win" the ballot per se. Verbatim from the other comment: Being "very popular in Europe" (the number three market behind the US and Japan) and "within the top five" (if she'd actually been number one they would have just said so) were the reasons given for her inclusion.
Evidence? - yunafreya648
Wrong she won the ballot and Wolf did not so she did not replaced him. - DaisyandRosalina
Yeah! That's why Wolf is cut. T_T
Those who don't love her for her over-the-top sexiness are those who still act like playable female characters are a brand new concept thus we must support any and all of them even if they are overtly sexy like Bayonetta.
Her overt sexiness is actually seen as a sign of independence by feminists who in the past have decried characters like Morrigan Aensland, Ivy Valentine, and Mai Shiranui.
Let's face it: had they starred a foul-mouthed, gun-toting, overly-sarcastic guy who flashed his privates people wouldn't have paid attention to those games.
I'm sorry, but M rated games have no place in Smash. Even Snake felt oddly out of place in Brawl, and unlike Bayonetta is actually iconic.
To think Smash 4 has a *lower* ESRB rating than its predecessors
Several of the characters have "mums" that have died or disappeared (this explicitly being mentioned or shown in their games of origin) and in some of those cases their mothers' fates are what drives the plot of their original games/the character's actions in said games. Ness's mother may be alive and well but in "Earthbound" he could get "homesick" and not be able to do much if he hadn't seen or called her in a while. And while one of Lucina's potential mothers (only her father's identity is set in stone in "Fire Emblem Awakening", the mother could very well end up being fem Robin if the player so dictates) is actually in "Smash" herself with Lucina, but there's that whole thing about Lucina having traveled back in time to prevent a bad future where among other things whoever her mother was things did not end well for said mother. Of the remaining characters, best case scenario we don't know the status or fate of their mothers (or fathers) or even what kind of relationship they may ...more
Seriously it's just a taunt, characters are not programmed to have emotions in that game - DaisyandRosalina
If we really push the definition, Luma's "mum" is also present and alive, but of course the demise of Rosalina's own mum is a big part of her backstory.
Like she's really in a position to say that
I hope the original poster of this comment doesn't mind me reposting it now that a one-liner from an apologist buried it: "It's extremely childish, dare I say even worse than Peach's "La la la la la", and I never thought I'd see a more annoying and immature taunt than that. But of course only Peach gets criticized while Bayonetta gets praised and worshiped no matter what she says or does."
And I have to agree. Peach's taunt is bad and annoying but Bayonetta's isn't any better and I am sick and tired of her getting off scott-free for everything she says or does while not just Peach but any other video game female doesn't. Keep your "nope"s and "so"s to yourselves, Bayhive!
I don't care for Bayonetta, and could never get into her games even before she was added to Smash even though I did try after being told multiple times that I would love them, thus I am not here to defend her.
Still, I have to ask what this list item is supposed to mean.
The beehive and the glasses. She also has a different type of but still apparently supposed to be endearing but just sounds condescending accent like Sarah Palin.
How? - yunafreya648
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2. She's overpowered
3. People are now happy to be able to use her to beat up undeserving characters
2. Her clothes and her hair are one and the same
3. They are other characters that fit better with Smash Bros
2. She is not for kids
3. She looks shocking