Top Ten Most Overrated Rock Drummers
I had to pause and make sure I wanted to cast my vote for Lars the drummer. I say this because I am a big Metallica fan but have always disliked his completely unwarranted self-important attitude. I wanted to make sure I was voting for the "musician" and not simply the douche I find him to be. So I went and listened to four tunes spanning 10-15 years, and yeah, he's got to be the most overrated of all time relative to the success he's enjoyed. He's on point, but at such and immature and unimaginative level. He's their mate though, so we've been stuck with that mediocrity since 1981. Good God how I wish they'd have required him to evolve and progress along with the rest of the band �" or cut his sorry ass loose. They'd have been better off sending him checks and taking on some real talent on the skins. So I cast my vote for this mundane, prosaic musician AND the douche that he is as well!
I'm just gonna say it: Lars Ulrich is overhated.
Am I doing this because he's in my favorite band, or is it because he's a deity in drumming? NO! Sure St. Anger wasn't his best work and yes, there are better drummers in Thrash Metal, but Ulrich was and still is a really good drummer. He might not have the best personality, but he is a pretty good businessman and his chemistry with James Hetfield does indicate how dedicated he is to Metallica and to his friend. And I'm pretty sure his personality has gotten somewhat better over the years.
I agree with pretty much everything on this list...except the Keith Moon reference. Can we please get off the Keith Moon bandwagon...please? His playing was a total mess...period. as for Lars, I can't listen to Metallica anymore because of him...painful to listen to and even more painful to watch when he makes playing a 4/4 beat look like he is doing something magical with his idiotic expressions. If anyone wants to see what Metallica could really sound like as a metal band, youtube videos where Lombardo filled in for Lars. I rest my case.
Lets face it a very overrated drummer to probably the most overrated metal band of all time. Lars is so slow its rediculus, and it wouldn't bother me if he was slow but everyone thinks he's a drumming god. No he keeps the beat in a genre where you are SUPPOSED to show off the drums. A very mediocre drummer for a very mediocre band. I shouldn't be too harsh on Lars though I mean the rest of the band is very overrated.
Not "The Worst" But EASILY the "Most Overrated". There is absolutely NO WAY he even Approaches being one of the best drummers. Sure, he kept a good beat, and was tasteful, and there's nothing wrong with his playing at all, he's just not that amazing. One of the other Beatles, I can't remember who, said, "He's not the best drummer in the World. He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles! " There's absolutely nothing special about his playing. That, combined with his consistent place at the top of "Best drummer of all time" lists, makes him the most overrated drummer in my opinion. He has the greatest discrepancy between his actual talent, and peoples' opinion of his talent.
This dude is NOT a bad drummer. But if you look at it, HE IS ONLY GOOD! Not sssooo talented. People are like, yeah, he is such a great drummer. But I bet if he didn't have a funny name and wasnt in the Beatles, nobody would know who he actually WAS! I mean, he is good in the sense that he was tasteful, kept a beat, etc. , but that only makes somebody a good drummer. Obviously, if somebody is in a famous band, they are good. But he should not be considered GREAT! This dude was mediocre! Sure, it is great that he was humble, and was not all showy, but that doent make him great! It only makes him a good person, not musician!
I bet most people here AREN'T drummers. I am, no lies. Ringo is not close to overrated. You don't need to be able to make flashy fills and solos to be great. All that matters is that you keep time and that you don't mess up. Ringo never did. I do agree with most of this list, though. But Roger Meddows Taylor isn't overrated. If you go up to someone and say "Do you like Roger Meddows Taylor? " They might not know who he is. Still, Ringo was a better drummer than most of you (and me), so unless you learn to play better than him, shut up and enjoy some Beatles.
If only professional drummers were allowed to vote, Ringo wouldn't even be on this list. What makes a great drummer is not how fast and flashy they play, but that they play the right beat, with the right feel, for the song. And Ringo did exactly that, which is especially impressive considering the diversity of the Beatles song catalog. Is Ringo the greatest drummer ever? No. But he is certainly not overrated and was part of what made the Beatles the greatest band ever.
The band REVOLVES around Barker. Which is unfortunate because he's not that good. That's great that you can drum super fast and not keep a beat but that's what anyone could do. Anyone who thinks that Barker is at all a talented drummer needs to look at Bonham and Moon. By far the best drummers the world has ever seen. Not only did they drum with speed and precision, but they didn't make their band revolve around there sound. They made their sound fit and flow with the rest of the song. That's talent. Not aimless drumming.
Just because he drums fast, doesn't mean that he is good. He cannot execute Polyrhythms and hell yeah, Danny Carry is on this list?! What has happened to all the people here? Travis Barker drums fast, undoubtedly. But he doesn't have the technicality to drum and who loves to have bashing snare noises that literally make no sense? Overrated according to me.
Bumbumka bumbumka bumbumka bumbumka... Etc etc etc. Same drum beat! Two bass drum notes and then a snare. Nothing original here. I'm not saying it needs to be an odd time signature but come on! People have said to me that he is the best drummer ever. Not by a long shot! The only reason people like him is because the majority of people sadly have no idea what it takes to be a good drummer. I've made better drum beats in my sleep!
Travis Barker is the most overrated drummer of all time. The Rev and Joey should not be even on this list. They have a lot of talent. He would not have been known without Blink 182 and that stupid soulja boy remix. That song sucked to begin with.
The' Rev, as all the "A7X" fans know him, was nothing impressive. Just because he played for your favorite "Pop / Metal" band, does not make him talented. And being dead doesn't mean you were a better musician when you were alive. I hate dissing the guy, because he's gone, but all the ignorant fans of A7X are mindless sheep who think fedoras, pin stripes, and spikey hair makes you a good band. The Rev was not a great drummer, and Avenged Sevenfold sucks.
Great drummer during his time, but unfortunately he's a victim of getting overpraised after his death. He was exceptional for A7X, considering he did a lot other than just drum, but after his death, it seemed as if A7X fans wanted to immediately throw him into a pedestal. I love Avenged Sevenfold, but there are better drummers, even in the Traditional Heavy Metal category.
He's in Avenged Sevenfold, a favorite group of many visitors on this site. That's the only reason you'll see a guy like him on a best, worst, and/or overrated drummers list. Most people here don't know too much about music, or at least they only know a limited amount of music due to underexposure. If you think The Rev is one of the all-time best, listen to more music, please.
Not overrated at all, actually a legend; the man even wrote many of the lyrics for a7x's best songs, such as "A Little Piece of Heaven". Not only could he drum and compose, but he was also an amazing vocalist. Check out "Fiction" off of the album "Nightmare" to see his vocal skills. RIP to one of the best to ever do it.
Leto & Lars (mostly because he's also an ass) are way too over-hyped. Honestly, Leto is okay, but #2 on best of all time? Really? The only reason a tard like this is that high up is because of retarded little fangirls and fanboys of 30 seconds to mars (which isn't even that good of a band). I know for a fact that John Bonham, Keith Moon, Stew Copeland, Nick Menza, Nicko McBrain, Ringo Starr (no bull, people just hate him because they want flashy drummers instead of those who can keep a great beat), Bill Ward, and Mike Portnoy could kick his ass with the tip of their pinky on a cymbal.
Shannon Leto is the definition of overrated. I can understand why Lars Ulrich and Travis Barker are here, but they shouldn't be ahead of Shannon. And why is Danny Carrey on here? That man is the most underrated drummer of all time after Buddy Rich (at least HE isn't on here).
I think every drummer deserves place like Leto. I mean he is not so special to be the best drummer. I don't like his drum beats his style and not even their band 30sec 2 mars. They are the most overrated rock artist.
Why is he number 2 on the top ten greatest drummer ever? Obviously neil peart is 1# but Keith moon, John Bonham, Buddy rich and Stewart Copeland are WAY and I mean WAY more better than him.
How is the Rev so far up and this SIMPLE drummer so far down? This guy plays almost as simple as Phil Rudd. Oh and please tell me why Phill Rudd is on here? AC/DC could only work with such simple beats and overrated means everyone calls the drummer good, fools. No one mentions Phil in a drum conversation, EVER.
You all talk a lot of smack...are any of you even drummers?!?!...or even tried playing the drums once...it's the only instrument where you are using all 4 limbs...at the same time...I say the Crue live and Tommy was great...obviously he's not the best...heck Ozzy's drummer smokes Tommy...BUT there's absolutely NO WAY Tommy belongs on this list
Tommy Lee is a rock drummer. That is all. No jazz, no country, not even pop... He did a special and they wanted him to play with a marching band... He couldn't do it, He tried but just couldn't play simple drum techniques.
Tommy Lee is a very talented drummer. I wonder how many of the people that don't like him can play like him. Try playing Dr. Feelgood and Primal Scream. With no mistakes, its gonna take a lot of practice.
Everybody says he's so amazing but he just isn't very creative. He doesn't use that many fills and just keeps a solid rock beat. I've never even heard him open the hi hat. Everyone say he suits the music and that's what matters but I think one of the most important qualities of a drummer is their creativity.
This is a good reason why I don't listen to AC/DC anymore. The songs are way too similar thanks to the repetitive drum beats which are in rinse and repeat on every song I listen from them. He is not creative at all, even what is the point on playing an 8 piece kit if you're going to play one beat over and over again. Geez
I wouldn't call him overrated simply because nobody really talks much about him, he's the least famous member in the band. There's people that have been listening to AC/DC for years that wouldn't recognize the name Phil Rudd, so in that sense, I must say he is not overrated
NO ONE cares about this guy. Why is he on here? Everyone knows his drumming is uninventive. That's what AC/DC was going for. You can't put him on this list. You could only put him on a list of Top 10 Most Boring or Top 10 Most Stale Drummers
Fast, simple double bass, generic triggered drum sounds, and lack of complex rhythms define his style. I have never seen such an overrated, generic drummer that many people consider to be one of the best in rock. His fan base is composed of 12 year old "metal heads" gushing over his "talent." Some REAL metal drummers who are worlds better than this guy include, but are not limited to: Danny Carey, Neil Peart, Marco Minneman, Virgil Donati, Brann Dailor, Matt Gartska, Blake Richardson, Matt Halpern, etc... The list goes on and on. Jordison has close to zero technical talent, generic drumming, lack of creative influence, and sloppy technique that I have witness in a drummer who is held in such high regard. OVERRATED.
I hate this guy. When I was at high school I admired this guy. You know posters everywhere, coverinf slipknot songs. But later on I found that he doesn't have anything special. Is he the fastest? No. Does he have super skills? No. Is the drumming melodic or integrated with the song? No. Does he have "solos" by randomly hitting toms and etc.? Yes. Did he get any awards such as greatest ever? Yes. He is way too overrated.
A Speed Demon and nothing more, his lightning fast speed is what drove up to be regarded as one of the greatest drummers. If you watch him and others cover him, you say wow because they're fast not because it's technical and difficult to learn. There are tons of other drummers far more skilled than he is.
Yes this guy is overrated, why? He is good but when is comes to extreme speed and technicality he just falls short. I see people say he is the fastest drummer alive, how? Not one slipknot song has reached speeds of 290 bpm. Check out inferno of Behemoth, song Shemhamforash.
I have heard people say that Dave Grohl is a new age John Bonham. I almost wanted to punch them for saying that. He is a good drummer, and I love both Nirvana and the Foo Fighters, but he is really not as great as everyone says he is. I think Taylor Hawkins (current Foo Fighters drummer) is at the same level as Dave, if not better. But really, saying Dave is one of the best drummers of all time is a stretch, and a large one at that.
Dave Grohl should be in Taylor Hawkins band The Coat Tail Riders. Taylor is riding Dave's coat tail while Dave is still riding Kurt Cobain's coat tail and it's 2012! I mean honestly when is the last time any of us has downloaded a Foo Fighters song? Really? Much less be able to recite the name of any of their two-bit sell out non catchy soulless get old fast songs.
I wouldn't say he's still riding coat tails. Dave gets Grammys in his sleep, and still sells a lot of records. As far as his drumming goes, ever hear his work with QOTSA, or Them Crooked Vultures? Its good stuff people. I'll quote Elton John in reference to Dave Grohl. "There isn't a musician worth his salt that doesn't respect that man. "
As much as I love Nirvanas music and all but Dave Grohl is extremely overrated! I love Dave too but just because he can hit hard and play the same beat every song doesn't mean he is "amazing". There really is nothing special about him! He doesn't even have perfect timing!
This list is a joke... All these people saying "All they do is keep a beat"... That's what you DO as a drummer, jeez. Look up on YouTube 'How to tell a bad drummer from a good drummer' then you will change your mind
He is underrated. And is really good and does not do the same beat over and over again some times the song is like that. And the only one that is like stray heart.
What are you supposed to expect from a punk drummer? Power fills every two seconds? This isn't Motley Crue guys.
He may over rated nut it is well earned. think about it he may not be the most talented drummer but he still makes great music
THE REV'S ON HERE? The guy is UNDERRATED. Nobody gives him credit because he died idiots. This guy is ridiculous. Danny Carey is on here? Carey is the best ever to me. This guy is such a horrible drummer. I could do anything this guy does and a little more.
He is good. But he definitely isn't neil peart good. NOBODY is that good. Some people are close(travis barker), but nobody will ever touch neil peart.
Simply a liar. He doesn't even know how to hold his drumsticks properly.
He's the fastest drum soloist? They wish, he's not good. Not special.
Neil is very good at prog rock and during his time back in the 80's he was "up there" among the best ROCK drummers. That being said, there are drummers who are more technically talented and more versatile than Peart E.G. vinnie Colaiuta, Steve Gadd, Gavin Harrison etc... Heck even Portnoy took what Peart did and expounded on it. Anyone who doesn't recognize Peart's contributions to rock drumming (and his lyrical contributions) needs to re-evaluate their position; however, there are drummers much better technically and that are more versatile than Peart. This isn't a popularity contest, it's a talent contest, and if anyone thinks that YYZ or Tom Sawyer are some of the hardest drum parts, please listen to more music.
Too much show-offish fills and not enough groove, in my opinion. I've watched his solos and they don't have rhythm nor taste. Some people say that his style works for Rush and that that's all that he needs. Well, never liked Rush (as a matter of a fact, Neil Peart is one of the reasons I dislike Rush) but it's OK if you think he's goos in it. But don't you think that a great drummer should work even outside its comfort zone? Bill Bruford, for example, worker well in Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Jazz Clubs and anywhere you threw him.
But meh. I guess my arguments won't convince anyone. That's my opinion, anyway.
Ask any real musician that has half a brain and some actual talent and they will ALL tell you Neil is one of the top rock drummers of all time - even if they dislike Rush. His talent of composing drum parts and systematically constructing his fills throughout the songs, even through odd time signatures separates him from most others. Not many other drummers can perform a solo with a 3/6 waltz feel on bass and high hat over a 4/4 feel with snare and toms at the speed and precision he
brings. Haters can talk it up but his drumming speaks for itself.
I got no idea why is even being considered on this list. The top comment says "RUSH fanboys troll the internet distorting every "greatest drummer ever" poll that they can find.". What?! Are you kidding me?! I don't even like RUSH and he's my absolute favorite and definitely the best after Buddy Rich, at the very least. Speed, creativity, sensibility, coordination, this guy is full package. He doesn't just drum, he also plays percussion such as the xylophone while he drums. This guy is unbelievable. He CAN NOT be overrated.
He has one of the best sounding drumming styles of all time, and he is a hulk on the drums, but I must be missing out. I don't understand why this man is at the top of several drum lists put out by your watchmojos and drummerworlds rolling stones etc. Maybe it's because we immortalize everyone that dies young? Same goes for Kurt Cobain, Hendrix, SRV. They aren't the greatest by any means, but people make them out to be because they died young.
Only Rush fanboys will say he's overrated cause people who actually know music will tell you that Bonham beats Peart in his sleep.
Peart has no groove or rhythm. Don't get me wrong, I like Rush, I simply think that Bonham is a much better drummer than Peart in every regard and that Zeppelin beats Rush easily.
My dad said in the 70's, he went to a led zeppelin concert and all he did was drink and play with his hands and everyone was booing him. So yes, and Dave grohl overrated? Nirvana is the best band of all time and really? He's drummed in like 15 other bands! He's A GOD!
If he was still alive, he would not be worshiped in the insane way he is. He was the greatest if you measure him in the same way people that rate Page the greatest guitarist of all time. He was a sloppy, arrogant, over-player that was only ok even back then.
As much as I love TOP, it makes me cringe when people say that Josh is "The best drummer ever" due to the fact that he isn't quite up there. Sure he's alright, and he is currently in a very successful band, but he just doesn't quite have the experience or technique in my opinion to be rated so well, so for that reason I think he's a touch overrated.
His fans clearly don't know how to differentiate bad drumming from good drumming. Passion doesn't count as talent. He and Tyler both play two different styles, and Josh just can't fit his style with Tyler. Being a wild drummer doesn't make you good. If he wanted to look good, then he should consult Ringo.
I agree he's not that impressive, but he plays the pocket perfectly like every drum hit is meant to be very very intentional to make the song better. I'm talking about in the studio versions of course, I can't comment on live performances.
Plays like he's Lars Ulrich. Which doesn't help when he plays really simple beats. Who cares if he's self taught? Buddy Rich never practiced at all. Josh's style doesn't fit Tyler's style. Most overrated drummer ever.
Linkin Park was and will always be a legend. Haters have been here since day 1. Throw your hate on somebody else. You don't like the music, listen to another band and stop criticizing artists of a lot higher level than any band you listen to. No other band reaches the level of LP. I've seen so many bands that became "classic" and "sacred" and were so overrated. People are just always trying not to give credits to bands that entered the metal world bringing rap into it. It's not an opinion, it's a fact LP is a legend. Chester, Rob, Mike, Brad, Joe Hahn. All of the 6 made the band what it is
His contributions on The Hunting Party actually sound like a retarded four year old slamming himself into the wall repeatedly.
For the record, Rob Bourdon is not a unique drummer, Chester Bennington is not a unique singer, and Linkin Park is not a unique band.
He is not overrated, he is an awesome drummer... The whole band is awesome not only chester but everyone is awesome
Danny is a god, easily one of the best drummers of our time. His ability to play perfectly with perfect fills in a variety of weird ass time signatures is a testament in itself. Plus he's wicked fast and his approach to drumming is creative and intelligent. Anyone who thinks Danny doesn't deserve the credit he gets should probably get their hearing checked
While much as he does get a huge amount of praise for his skill on the drums, the praise is well-deserved. I'm not going to lie, he is one of the better drummers on this list, mainly because he incorporates polyrhythms instead of randomly hitting the toms and such. Dispute me, if you like. It's always interesting to debate people about musical tastes.
Danny Carey's name shouldn't be mentioned anywhere near the word overrated, he deserves every ounce of praise he gets. You don't have to like Tool to understand this guy has undeniable talent and creativity. One of my favorite drummers of all time.
As to the guy who says he has never seen Danny Carey do anything special, I can confirm you haven't actually listened to Danny Carey.
Elevate higher on list.. Great performers but not musicians.
U2. Sucks and is over rated
Overrated same as U2
If you think he's overrated you need to check more than "In The Air Tonight". Listen to early Genesis stuff, like The Cinema Show, for example. Or The Musical Box. His drumming is phenomenal in there. Just listen to anything from 1971-1976 Genesis and you'll see he's a great drummer. Not overrated, but overlooked.
OK, I can see why do most people think he's overrated because of his 80s pop albums. But just listen to the 70s Genesis albums (the ones with Peter Gabriel as lead singer) and you'll see he is one of the best drummers.
I really like his music, but people think Phil is the greatest ever. If you think he's one of the best, you've never heard Neil Peart, John Bonham, Keith Moon, or Danny Carey
He's a big sellout. Genesis used to be good back in the day but their later music is rubbish.
An overrrated punk-rock drummer who hits his kit with too much intensity. That's not bad when properly done (The Killers), but his lack of technique is annoying. Not only he screwed the few acoustic sessions Placebo did while he was in the band, but he never managed to keep the beat in a whole bunch of songs (Meds is the most obvious one).
Steve is incredibly energetic on stage.
He's pretty good at doing fast hi-hats and the like, but on Arctic Monkeys' older stuff, it sounds like he's playing the same beat, just faster or slower. Also, his drumming has become more simple in recent years.
Come on, this guy is the best! Love AM and he is an agile beast from sheffield!
Well he's not the best but I don't find him overrated.
Made AC/DC sound like they used a drum machine. No groove. No feel.
Completely destroyed the already rickety Rock or Bust tour.
Alex plays to bring in the spirit of the band. If he played Hot For Teacher with a four piece kit, it would set off the wrong feel for the rest of the song. Van Halen is a hard rocking band, and Alex is the foundation, not Eddie.
I can't listen to that fuzzy old beat. Every song it is the same. Van Halen would have been a lot netter without him. He would have never been in a successful rock band without his brother.
Alex Van Halen Is the fastest and best drummer out there! These other comments are so mean! He is A great drummer
He shouldn't even be in this list. He's not overrated for one... And even if he was it'd kinda make sense... He's the best drummer in my opinion
When I heard Californication the first time, I felt like farting and then smelling my fart at the same time. That's how gross the whole point of Red Hot Chili Peppers is. The whole point of this comment is the band being highly overrated and the drummer of course, is highly deteriorating. Peace to all the fanboys who love Chad Smith and my drum machine which is better than Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Being A Part of the most overrated band of all time, does make him overrated. After listening to Californication, I felt like slapping myself and asking myself, "What did I just listen to? " One Of The Worst Bands Of All Time. Period.
The fact that he's on this list is kinda funny... cause the man is way underrated. The man can play all his parts. Not the fastest, not the best, but the man can slap those skins!
Nothing special, I've been playing for less than a year and can play all his parts. Nothing special just a bad drummer with annoying fans.
Mike portnoy is quite possibly the best progressive rock drummer there is. He is absolutely full of himself and there is no denying that. The thing is, is that dream theater and liquid tension experiment, for the most part, are bands only appreciated by other musicians. And of course not everyone on this list is gonna be a tony royster jr or a jojo Mayer, but they were able to play what was necessary to resonate with their band most soundly. Can you imagine portnoy in acdc? He would have over played so much. It would be a constant drum fart in the background. Although I do believe Travis barker is awful. If everyone had the opportunit to see another drummer mimic travis's drumming with the symbols and hi-hat 4 feet lower and without violently rocking his head up and down they would find that Travis only has the talent of putting on a good visable performance.
Overrated. He has ZERO dynamics, doesn't move out of his comfort zone, doesn't challenge himself, and plays the same way every song. He does the same fill over and over again: linear sextuplets (R L R L on snare and R L on bass). If you listen to any of his songs you'll hear it. He overuses the double bass not to mention I can do everything he does with one pedal. Super uncreative. Thinks he's the best around. Admired by amateur players who think he's a GOD. He plays a giant set because he can't sound well when he plays a five piece. The most overrated drummer of all time.
Next to Peart, he's the greatest prog drummer ever. He plays with great balance and speed, and doesn't swing too much. Portnoy has a great spirit, and while he isn't in the band anymore, there was no doubt he rocked while he could. Mangini is great, but he can't beat Portnoy.
"He plays a giant set because he can't sound well when he plays a five piece." Stupidest comment ever, hater. Check out "loudwire unplugged where he rocks out on a ririculously small toy four-piece drum kit. In another video, he competely nails it again, this time witht wo four-piece children drum kit. Go check it out, and call him bad again.
Vinnie Paul and Dimebag essentially created Groove Metal in the late 80's early 90's and Pantera as a whole saved metal from being relegated to history books and Holiday Inn Express Shows...This Man and is contributions to metal and music in general are vastly underrated...
Generic drumming with little to no talent. Terrible triggered sounds and uncreative fills and patterns. The way some people say this guy is one of the greatest of all time is rediculous and simply not true. Vinnie Paul is completely overrated. A mediocre drummer at best.
I can't take anyone seriously that criticizes Vinnie's drumming who spelled RIDICULOUS as rediclous. That says it all about this commenter. Vinnie was one of the best. RIP Vinnie. We Cowboys from Hell and from Dallas, Texas love you.
Vinnie Paul is not only a great Drummer he is a metal innovator,if you think Vinnie Paul is overrated you clearly play punk...If you don't like metal you shouldn't comment about a metal drummer