Top 10 Most Important Genres to the Creation of Metalzxm This list includes some musical genres which were important for creation of metal. Not only heavy metal but also other sub-genres of metal. And by helped creation of metal I meant this musical genres influenced other metal musicians.
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Yes, after 45 years of metal evolution, you can hear that metal music is a variation of classical music - from Iron Maiden's traditional metal to thrash, to power metal, to death metal. Just pay attention to this detail and you will hear the classical foundations. Give another listen (from this perspective) to the riffs of Master of Puppets and Holy Wars. - Metal_Treasure
In metal you can hear influences from almost all classical composers but most notably Paganini. Other composers: Wagner, Beethoven, Bach, Grieg, Mozart, Chopin, Russian composers, Baroque composers, to name a few. - Metal_Treasure
At first user MT said it,then I saw it in one article that many songs were inspired by this genre.Especially Highway Star by Deep Purple - zxm
Yes, this is true. Metal and prog rock have several things in common: classical inspiration, more complex and longer songs, better musicianship (compared to the standard rock music). - Metal_Treasure
See my remix for better version - zxm
@zxm - Re 'I wanted to add only prog rock... "- this makes sense, now I understand better this list and don't feel bad I disagreed with you on several items. - Metal_TreasureV 2 Comments
Yes, hardcore punk influenced thrash: thrash = speed/power metal + hardcore punk. Punk influence resulted mostly in a more aggressive sound and rough vocals. Speed and power metal are also fast but they are not as abrasive as thrash. - Metal_Treasure
I added it without finding any choice,because I had to add ten items,but anyway I heard this influenced thrash metal - zxm
Hard rock was important in that it already had the necessary instruments for metal - loud guitars, bass, drums. And amps. But music is stylistically different: instead of blues-based music, in metal you play classical-based music on the same instruments. Deep Purple is the best example because they played both genres on different songs. And even on one song - Smoke On the Water is mostly a hard rock song but the famous riff is a metal riff inspired by Beethoven's 5th. - Metal_Treasure
@zxm RE "But hard rock vocals was important": not very much because hard rock and metal vocals are different - metal vox are operatic (Gillan, Dickinson) as classically inspired music needs operatic vox. Hard rock vox are sexy and sensual because blues is, too (Plant, Coverdale). Voice rasp/distortion (when available) are also different. - Metal_Treasure
Hard rock is mostly based on blues. Metal is mostly based on classical... - Metal_Treasure
There's a reason I added it here.people always confuse hard rock and heavy metal. they mainly confuse because of the guitar riffs.though metal solo was not inspired by hard rock but they used the hard rock power chords for metal.there was still use of power chords before blues,but it was slow.the hard rock was famous for using heavy power chords,which some metal musicians use.because when you try to play metal power chords,its pretty much same a hard rock power chords (not the sound but technique).at least for the early metal. - zxmV 3 Comments
Yes, punk influenced thrash metal - from punk came a more aggressive sound and rough, unpolished vocals. But Metallica riffs (and all thrash riffs) are metal riffs and not punk riffs. There's a difference between metal and punk riffs.
Because thrash metal was a very successful crossover I would say that obviously metal and punk go very well together. Same for metal and classical. - Metal_Treasure
Punk rock is fast paced,it influenced different metal genres.epseically thrash metal.Metallica was inspired by Ramones guitar riffs - zxm
Punk rock and thrash metal both have fast strumming. this is one of the things that inspired thrash guitarist. but of course there is a difference between a punk rock and thrash riff. if they both have fast strumming then why don't two of these sound same? (I mean thrash metal is kinda brutal and punk rock is little bit of high-pitched noise). It's because of two way strumming .
1. punk rock riffs are based on strumming all the strings. mostly down strokes. holding the pick softly.
2. in thrash riff, you have hold the pick roughly and strum the strings with power. but not all strings. fewer strings will make more brutal sound.
don't believe me. you could search for it. - zxm
Art rock is a subgenre of rock music with influences from art music (avant-garde and classical). It's similar to progressive rock but different. Art rock characteristics go very well with metal. - Metal_Treasure
I'll give you an example to see that blues is unwanted in metal. Jeff Hanneman of Slayer said about Pantera that he liked some stuff but Pantera were "too bluesy at times" (meaning, not a good idea). And Hanneman wasn't the only one - American and Canadian metal bands left a major label when Pantera was signed to the same label (mostly thrash bands but not only). If this was such a big problem with Pantera, imagine what metal musicians would say about bands with even more blues (doom, stoner, sludge). - Metal_Treasure
No, there's no blues in metal, except in the doomy Black Sabbath. Early bands like Judas Priest needed to get rid of the blues elements in order to achieve a pure metal sound (without blues). The heavier version of blues rock is called heavy blues rock and not heavy metal. Many people confuse heavy blues rock with heavy metal. - Metal_Treasure
Early heavy metal was also developed from blues rock.but not direct blues rock.Heavier version of it - zxm
No, not really. Black Sabbath did but this is part of doom metal only and not part of the other metal genres. Deep Purple had some psychedelic rock songs but this didn't become part of their metal songs. Where are the psych. elements in Hard Lovin' Man, Burn or Highway Star? In fact, the early bands had to get rid of psych. elements to achieve a metal sound. - Metal_Treasure
Black Sabbath drew their music psychedelic rock,and also deep purple - zxm
I wanna add the mentioned new metal musicians don't use smooth jazz, they use some more technical and "acid" jazz versions that require virtuoso players, especially guitar players. - Metal_Treasure
Maybe not much influencial at the early stages but newer bands use jazz, mostly in guitar work: prog metal - Dream Theater, technical/prog thrash - Annihilator, Coroner, thrash - Testament, Megadeth, prog power metal - Blind Guardian, Theocracy, technical death metal - Blotted Science, Obscura.
I think jazz goes very well with prog and technical versions of metal subgenres because these 3 are complex and demanding. - Metal_Treasure
If you listen closely jazz songs then you could realize many metal songs have same music.I meant same instrumental styles.for example drum beats - zxm
I need some proof about this because there aren't similarities - metal tends to be complex and with virtuoso performances, garage rock tends to be simple and raw. - Metal_Treasure
Many early heavy garage rock songs inspired some metal musicians - zxm
Yes, and also power pop could be a mix of garage rock and pop too. Rest of power pop songs is sounding more like punky than hard rock. Just listen to Knack-My Sharona. It don't reminds you to the Ramones? - somekindofaguy
Don't worry, zxm - I understood why some items appeared on this list (the 10 items rule). - Metal_Treasure
Pretty much same as hardcore punk,had to add it without any choice.but I have a reason though,the who was power pop and they drew their hardcore music from power pop and their music inspired some metal musicians - zxmV 3 Comments
Pretty much all modern music genres can be traced back to some type of folk - RecklessGreed
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