Reasons Lord of the Rings is Better Than Harry Potter

I like both Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter, but Lord of the Rings is much better. This is my personal opinion, so please don't take it too seriously. Any other reasons are welcome!

The Top Ten

1 It has a deeper meaning

The Lord of the Rings totally has deeper meaning than harry potter. The characters are very well developed in LOTR, and the main lesson from the movies is keep on trying no matter how hard or what gets in your way. Frodo and Sam knew that they would not survive their nearly impossible mission, but at the very brink of death, they kept on trying and succeeded. while watching harry potter I am thinking 'when is this gonna be over', but while watching Rings I am very satisfied and into the movie. One thing LOTR does very well is plays with your emotions. Seriously, I almost cried seeing Frodo leaving Sam and Middle Earth after all they went through together. LOTR is awesome!

The only reason why I voted is to say that Harry Potter is better than LOTR. The LOTR books are awfully written and are so boring and monotonous. The LOTR movies are actually quite boring sometimes whereas Harry Potter is always interesting and awesome. The characters are more layered and are not just generic people. The Villain actually has a reason for being evil rather than just being evil(don't tell me about the sillmillarion because it is awful). And lastly Harry Potter actually has female characters rather than tools and other women who are just glossed over.

There is very little character development in Harry Potter. Harry learns about magic and then for the rest of it he goes with the flow, and just yells at his friends for no reason. Frodo, has inner conflicts but manages to go along on his mission. Sam can defeat a giant spider, and Ron can defeat a cup. LOTR also has better themes than death.

In Lord Of The Rings, good triumphs over evil, because evil cannot comprehend good: Sauron doesn't understand Good's motivations, so it doesn't even occur to him that they may try to destroy the Ring. In Harry Potter, good triumphs over evil because love is more powerful. So it’s pretty clear that Lord Of The Rings has deeper meanings.

2 It is Christian

-Gandalf the Gray (and White) represents the Resurrection, but more importantly he represents the third person of the Trinity, The Word, who exists outside of time.

-Frodo Baggins represents the Sacrifice (the Crucifixion), the journey which begins in sleepy, out-of-the-way Nazareth and ends on the slopes of Golgotha.

-Aragorn, son of Arathorn represents the King, the restoration of the Davidic Kingdom.

Umm, although I do like LOTR more (and also find Harry Potter overrated), I don't think this has anything to do with it being better...

In The Lord Of The Rings and the rest of the Middle-Earth mythos, Eru Iiúvatar is looked upon as God(the magic comes from an outer omniscient source).

In Harry potter the magic is godless because it comes from within. This can be viewed as a form of narcissism which Christians believe to be sinful.

There are so many themes that are even indirectly Christian. There's a degenerative universe going on, in The Silmarillion there was a theme that their only hope lay with the Gods, selflessness, and even the most despicable of characters (gollum) can earn redemption.

3 It doesn’t rely heavily on magic

Plus, LOTR's magic system has an actually fleshed out origin story in The Silmarillion on how the magic of Middle-Earth came to existence, something that HP lacks.

If Frodo and Sam want to get up a mountain, they walk. Simple. No teleporting, just do it the old fashioned way. Also, I think that magic is a huge distraction, for both reader and writer because the reader is always thinking, couldn't they just do that with magic? And the writer always has to make up reasons that they can't do stuff with magic.

Frodo's mission is very hard. No blasting obstacles out of the way, teleporting or immobilizing enemies. Just lots of walking, climbing and running.

Unlike SOMEONE I know (Harry) Frodo actually struggles. He doesn't yell "Wingardium Leviosa" or whatever and get it done,he actually nearly dies. See my point?

4 Harry Potter copied Lord of the Rings

-Dark Forest and spiders.
-Dumbledore and Gandalf
-Ring Wraiths is wayyyy better than the floating black things trying to rip harrys face...oh hell yeah I forgot the name but I don't care
-Also this:
Sauron:
I made a ring and rely on it.
Voldemort:
ohhhh cool bro. may I copy the idea times 7?

So many fantasy writers have attempted (perhaps unintentionally) to mimic the greatness Tolkien achieved. However, HP is one of the better imitations. Still, however, LOTR kicks HP arse any day

Harry potter did copy some of lord of the rings. I also heard they copied a few from other books and movies like star wars. but without lotr, harry potter wouldn't so popular

Harry Potter was inspired by Lord Of The Rings. It wasn't a complete copy of it, but it was definitely inspired by it.

5 It comes with a back drop of thousands of years of history and is rich in fully developed languages

Tolkein didn't write different books. All of it come together to form thousands of years of history. Last time I checked J.k Rowling didn't create an entire world with different languages for each race of people. that's the difference. LOTR feels real.

Tolkien devoted a significant portion of time over his life to developing the world of LotR, it is a man's life's work. If vague references are made to facts throughout a series of children's books then it won't build up as big a universe than a dense series of adult books alongside a large book designed to build up the world Tolkien's works take place in and a hefty amount of notes written on the legendarium.

Absolutely. I always enjoy reading the appendices at the end of Return of the King to learn all about the history of Middle-Earth. The Tolkien Bestiary also does this, even listing classic characters like Sauron as god-like!

Unlike Hogwarts, Tolkien gave Middle Earth a history spanning many 'ages' and many millenniums. Accompanying this history are several languanges (yes, full languages) that help to give validity and reality to the universe.

6 The characters don’t do evil to achieve their goals

In Lord of the Rings, wrongdoers are punished. The characters choose the nobler path. The message in Harry Potter seems to be that so long as the characters are against Voldemort, they can do anything they want, including illegal spells that ought to land them in jail for the rest of their lives.

This is the stupidest reason I have ever read for LOTR being better than Harry Potter. If fictional characters never do wrong things, then these characters are very poorly written ones.

So your telling me if you had been alive during world war II, and had the ability to sign a petition to kill Hitler,you wouldn't sign it cause murder is wrong?

Don't evil witches ride on brooms?

7 Lord of the Rings makes sense, Harry Potter is just random magic stuff

Millions of people have read the books. The fact that you "read a little bit of a book" and found that it makes no sense proves how ignorant you R. If you read the first few pages of Lord of the Rings would you understand everything? Better yet, would you want to? A good book does not reveal all of itself at once. If it did there would be no reason to read on. You're supposed to want to find out, not just deem it stupid because you don't understand everything yet.

LOTR is a sub-creation under an overarching creation by God. HP is just random plot meandering, inventing things along the way...

Your must read full books and you will be know LOTR is the most realistic fantasy series of all time

Have you read the books? I've read a little bit of a book and it made no sense. its stupid!

8 The movie inspires people on how to do good and fight against evil.

Hold on, Pippin was never in league with the orcs! Also, the big villain Sauron in LOTR, gives the book a huge advantage. It doesn't make you stop to think, "Well hey, you shouldn't have hurt the big faming eyeball. It was only an immortal wrath of a being, captain of the god of death, just trying to rule and terrorize the world! " So you don't really care that hundreds of orcs were killed. Whereas in Harry Potter, the Death Eaters are confused and mislead lunatics, but are in fact humans, and have their own lives. And Voldemort is a raving mad orphan boy that nobody really likes, so yeah, advantage to LOTR. Also, I think that Harry Potter should not have been written for kids, like come on. Is it really smart to have nine year olds learning about teenage social problems, serial killers, and mass murderers without noses? Real good lesson for little kids. I mean, not to mention the Lord of the Rings movies were way, way better.

Well to be fair, Harry Potter just literally says there's a bad guy, and you can do simply anything to stop him. Lord of the Rings, it's more serious and deeper, and there's always that thing about good vs evil. Everyone made mistakes, had problems, but they fought to keep on the right path, and look what they achieved.

In Harry Potter, they have to do wrong to fight against evil, but in the real world, you never do illegal stuff and remain the "good guy". In LotR, all the evil characters are evil, and all the good characters are good. Of course, everyone makes mistakes, so please don't go blaming Pippin for being in league with the orcs.

Yeah, Harry Potter inspires people to get revenge on people who have wronged them. Stellar lesson for kids.

9 The Nazgûl are cooler than the Death Eaters

Death Eaters can be reasoned with but not the Nazgúl since they are unbreakably devoted to Sauron' will. Plus, the Nazgúl technically can't be killed since they're not living nor dead.

Oh yeah. The Nazgul (my computer won't let me do the line above the "u") are sooo awesome! They're also scary beyond belief. If I saw a Death Eater coming after me, I'd run as fast as I can. But if I saw the Nazgul coming after me, I'd shoot myself in the head, because there is no way you're getting out alive after that.

Don't get me wrong I'm a HUGE lotr fan but is one series being "more Christian" a legitimate reason for one to be better? I mean how about the actual story or character development! Things like that

The Nazgûl are invisible, speak in whispery voices and ride dragon-like creatures. And they're only nine of them. The Death Eaters are still human and although they're dangerous, they're not terrifying. Also, the Death Eaters follow Voldemort's orders all the time, while the Nazgûl do things on their own.

10 Sauron is a better villain than Voldemort

Ok I mean as he is the second dark lord it makes sense, but I never understood why Shelob was called a demon but not him or his master Morgoth. Back on track I always liked how the books choose to portray their villains as corrupted and not just some salty orphan like Harry Potter. I like them both but Lord of the Rings has always been better

Voldemort was a more memorable villain. Sauron is a lot more powerful and is a great villain but Voldemort is a villain who’d you’d actually like to see with more screen time.

Sauron is the dark lord of evil, who in the first age crafted rings to take over the minds of humans and use them as his slaves. He controls an army of thousands and thousands of orcs. His spirit is still alive though his body died and he lives in mt doom.

Voldermort is some guy without a nose

Sauron is one of the greatest villains of all time. Everything about him is awesome (except the fact that he's lazy). My favorite part about Voldemort is that he has no nose, like King Hippo, but that's about it.

The Contenders

11 Harry can be a jerk

Hell yes I agree with this! Especially Harry in The order of the phoenix, he was like constantly shouting and yelling at his friends in Grimmauld Place. He's also very moody and a little 'too-good' for his age, which means he's too mature and a little fake. He doesn't have a good sense of humor and certainly doesn't have enough manners (no offense, it's the truth) as he likes to shout or being angry at his mentor and teachers. In the last chapter in Order of the phoenix, Harry shouted at Dumbledore but come off it, Harry shouts at anyone he think deserves it. He's just a kid, for the love of God. Stop yelling!

Harry isn't jerk! He just can be angry sometimes because for example in the order of the phoenix Voldemort is inside Harry's mind and that is very good reason to be angry.

Harry gets angry at little things and yells at his closest friends. Frodo was only a jerk because he was under the influence of the Ring.

Frodo is at least more connecting and relatable than Harry.

12 It's darker

I mean Frodo cot stabbed by a Nazgúl, that was scary!
I did'nt get scared in Harry Potter! Sorry, bad English

LOTR is much scarier than Harry Potter

13 It's more entertaining

100 PERCENT. Lord of the Rings is my favorite trilogy of all time, like, literally my life. My cousin first introduced us to the place I've left my heart in, Middle Earth. At first we didn't wanna watch it. You see, he'd shown us Harry Potter previously and just by watching the first movie, we still hated it. But you might say that it could change a person's view on the movie if they watched it out of free will and not being forced. Well. I didn't WANT to watch LOTR. Not at all. But I still ended up loving it. That's how awesome it is. And my mother checked the guides and was like, "Yeah everyone says it's awesome, put it on"
And, needless to say, since that day, I've been hooked.

14 It is a physical journey

Frodo has to actually walk to his destination, over rocks, marshes, mountains and rivers. All Harry does each year is go to school, and maybe to some other places on field trips, and the dangers come to him.

The Lord Of The Rings actually involves an exploration into the scope and mythology of Middle-Earth. Harry Potter, unfortunately, involves being stuck in a school for most of the time.

I agree with this one.

15 The language is grander

Yes! Tolkien's prose is absolutely beautiful and the imagery is spectacular! Whereas in HP a fifth grader can understand the language; you actually have to try in LOTR, and there are no cultural references or crude humor, making it a classic rather than just a wildly famous bestseller. Don't get me wrong, HP has changed my life and I love it, but it's more "fun," and you don't even notice how shallow it really is until you actually read LOTR. LOTR FOR THE WIN!

True, Harry Potter is easier to understand, but once you can make sense of Tolkien's language, it has great, deep meaning that doesn't grow old.

It is very emotional the farther you go and I actually almost cried when Boromir died.

Yeah. I can't stop reading it! Harry Potter is lame compared to lord of the rings.

You do realize HP is for young adults right?

16 Lord of the Rings has cooler species

Both have men, but does Harry Potter have anything as cool as a Balrog. And the creatures that are similar, like dragons, are crappier than in LOTR.

LotR: Men, Elves, Dwarves, Orcs, Balrogs, Dragons, Uruk-hai, Wizards, Hobbits, Numenoreans, Trolls, Valar, Maiar, Nazgul, Gollum, Goblins.
HP: Men, Dragons, Stupid small elves, goblins

17 Lord of the Rings has a deeper meaning to it

In the J.R.R. Tolkien novel series 'the lord of the rings' you get this feeling like you have been transported to another world it is full of mysterious lore and is heavily based on back-story. while as for harry potter it takes place in present time and doesn't have much back-story to it. the feeling of the characters seeming real just isn't there.

It has a deeper meaning and the entire storyline is like another universe itself

18 Lord of the Rings' legacy still continues to this day while Harry Potter's legacy is dying

NOT TRUE! (This list is making me so mad, HP is fAR better than LOTR)

19 Harry Potter Is Too Childish In Some Parts While to Dark In Other Parts

Are you confusing Harry Potter with The Worst Witch in fact the whole list is confusing Harry Potter and The Worst Witch.

Yeah, the change of tones is kinda weird to be honest.

Nah. All too childish

The Tone-Meter For Harry Potter

1,2,3-Light
4,5,6,7-Dark

20 The characters are on attack mode, not defense mode

The Lord of the Rings characters take the initiative to start the quest to Mordor. In Harry Potter the dangers just follow Harry around.

21 It has better morals

Lotr has hopelessly outdated morality, good for its time but now we have moved on

22 It's shorter

The length of the movie does not define the quality of it.

The Lord Of The Rings Movies Are Longer In Run Time

23 Eowyn is better than Hermione

Eowyn is better than Hermione because of her fight. She picks a sword and defeat the greatest evil sidekick. And Hermione just says words and moves her wand.

In the book at least eowyn knows she's probably going to die but still defends her uncle

24 Lord of the Rings is only for ages 16 and over while Harry Potter is for ages 13 and over

That's totally not true. I'm in fifth grade and I'm still reading Lord of the Rings. And I read Harry Potter in second grade!

I don't agree with this "age" limit. I do admit that The Lord of The Rings was much darker and violent than Harry Potter,

The age limit has nothing to do with the movie being better.

Lord of the Rings is PG not 12A or 12

25 LOTR has way more powerful enemies.

Not really fair lol, Tolkien took a ton of time to develop his characters and world. The biggest bad of Middle-Earth is Melkor/Morgoth, the second most powerful being besides Eru, who's like, God. He is the greatest of the Ainur. Even Sauron was a servant to him!

VOLDEMORT CAN"T EVEN TAKE OVER A HIGH SCHOOL. SAROUN MANGES TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD.

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