Top Ten Things Wrong With Warrior Cats

I LOVE the Warrior Cats series. It's a very good series, but there are things wrong with it. Here are some of them. I'm sorry if this list is kinda inacurrate
The Top Ten
1 ThunderClan always being the hero while other clans especially ShadowClan are always the enemies

This is really annoying. Even though, ThunderClan is my favorite clan, they don't always have to be the hero! There are lots of good cats in ShadowClan. Tawnypelt, Tigerstar (The son of Tawnypelt), Dovewing, Flametail, and many, many more! The good cats deserve to be the hero, at least one time. Even in the Warrior's Ultimate Guide it says that ShadowClan warriors are cold and heartless! That is so not true. ShadowClan cats have feelings, you know!

Argh, this is SO annoying! I mean, at first it made ThunderClan all heroic and stuff, but then it just started to get ANNOYING. ThunderClan shoves it's big hairy nose into EVERYTHING. RiverClan had a minor conflict? ThunderClan comes barging in. ShadowClan had new kits? ThunderClan comes barging in. WindClan caught a rabbit? ThunderClan comes barging in. SkyClan fought off a fox? ThunderClan comes barging in. The Tribe of Rushing Water has a new problem? ThunderClan comes FLYING in. ThunderClan is a clan full of mary sues and gary stus, since ThunderClan is victorious in nearly every single frickin battle.

Shadowclan. Is. Not. Evil! The only reason people even think that it because the protagonists are ALWAYS from Thunderclan. It's so annoying… The few times I've actually seen Shadowclan from Shadowclan's point of view, I've actually really liked them. I just really wished there were protagonists from all five clans, so then we'd actually have an accurate view of what each clan is really like.

SO ANNOYING. Giver the other clans a chance. It makes Thunderclan seem like that best clan ever and that the clans should listen to him. Witch is even more annoying. Just because Shadowclan has shadow in its name does not make it bad. Thunderclan is bossy.

2 Erin Hunter not giving Hollyleaf a power just because they couldn't think of a power for her

This was terrible writing on their part. There's many powers they could've gave her but they gave it to Dovewing, a distant kin. I love Hollyleaf and (Spoiler alert for the recent books) I'm now starting to like Dovewing as a ShadowClan cat, but they did Hollyleaf terribly.

Unpopular opinion time: Dovewing is way better than Hollyleaf. Honestly, Hollyleaf was quite boring to me. Even after she murdered Ashfur, I felt like I needed a better main character than Hollyleaf. Dovewing was that better character for me. She was so fun to read about!

Right? I mean there's so many things to do! I mean she could have a power where she can blind her enemies, see perfectly in the dark, turn invisible, the possibilities are endless! Instead they gave Dovewing the power of being a max-level Mary Sue.

I mean duh!
Hollyleaf deserved it way more than Dovewing(a lot of offense). I also agree with second place, but this is more like it. I don't rlly care about dovewing, but this is about Hollyleaf, people! At least Ivypool did something. Dovewing just pretended to fight off beavers. Hollyleaf would've actually used her powers!

3 Firestar being part of almost every prophecy

Firestar was alright in the first six books of the series but he quickly went down afterwards. The cat lost all of his personality and had to be the hero for EVERYTHING. It is so annoying! Firestar's arc is over, so get over with it Erin Hunters! Give him a break! Stop dragging him into everything!

Firestar is a fat, lazy Gary Stu. He walks in camp, and all of a sudden he's everyone's hero. And he has three she-cats going after him. Not that he can control that, but he hurts Sandstorm's feelings when he mopes about missing Spottedleaf. I felt so bad for Sandstorm when Firestar kept mentioning Spottedleaf in front of her.
Firestar sucks.

I hate this so much WHY is Firestar so important. WHY did he have to be part of everyone?! He can hardly fight!

UH YEAH, cause he's like the first main character of the series, what do you expect? Of course he's popular.

4 Dovewing being the third cat when she did almost nothing

All she did was whine! "Poor me, I'm in a relationship with Tigerheart that breaks the warrior code in so many ways, while my sisters risking her life for the clans every night and I have to yell at her about it! Life's so hard!" Her power did almost NOTHING! But everyone goes "Oh, Dovewing, what could we do without you?" All she did was waste her powers on spying on Tigerheart!

I see the ones below this and think wow most of those are ridiculously stupid better vote for a less stupid one. For example 14 because the injury that scourge inflicted on firestar wasn't as fatal as the injury inflicted to tiger star it mentions IN THE BOOK that firestar dodged the blow that had taken all of tiger stars lives. Sorry for the hate but this is plain stupid. Now another example is 9 Sorry your argument actually goes against science! Cats can have many different colour pigments and patterns also there may be dormant genes so ya broke the myth. This last one the no gay couples one isn't stupid but let's think your right there should be gay couples it would add more plot and is just rude to ignore them as these cats are sentient cats from what in know are only sexually attracted to the opposite sex. Though these are sentient cats and I agree there should be gay couples. Now look at the others with a new understanding really the farther down you go the worse it gets. Sorry ...more

I think that the power of 3 should have been these 3 cats:
Cinderpelt, Briarlight, and Brightheart.
Because they are all female cats who have suvived bad ingures. And I don't care if the timeline is off a little

Edit: sorry for bad spelling :(

Dovewing just obsessed over this guy she liked. Every other cat in the entire kriffing SERIES actually did something. (Excluding Silverstream and Spottedleaf)

5 Ashfur being accepted by StarClan

Ashfur, should go to the Dark Forest. He was jealous, angry, sad, heartbroken, furious, frustrated, envious, and mean! That's the definition of a cat in the Dark Forest. He should learn to accept that he lost to Brambleclaw/star. He keeps trying to win Squirrelflight, but she doesn't love him! He is very annoying.

We tried to kill his leader- technically Tigerstar did that too- and Ashfur also tried to kill many other cats- so if Adhfur can slip by shouldn't Tigerstar too?

Actually, Spottedleaf was mature.
A cat is mature when they are six months old.
The only reason to not mate is because of training.

Yes, Squirrelflight admitted she didn't feel the same way about him as he did about her. And yes, that is a reason to feel bad. But no, that is not a reason to try and kill your ex's children.

He tried to kill four cats.

End of story.

6 Erin Hunter brought back Hollyleaf just to kill her in the next book

This was something I always hated. Why even bother bringing her back? Not to mention she's rarely seen in StarClan, with the exception of Squirrelflight's Hope. What irritates me more is the fact that Lionblaze and Jayfeather don't seem to even care that their only sister died. They just pretend she doesn't exist.

Omg, that's bad! Hollyleaf is one of my favs and I'm annoyed at the fact that she only returned to be killed. But at the same time I'm very glad that she saved Ivypool.

This pissed me off so hard when I found out (through spoilers) that I actually refused to read the rest of the books. Why give her all of that development just to kill her off again? Lazy writing?

What was that for I thought it was going to be better. But once you think about it what did she every come back in the first place and Hawkfrost that kills her why not Tigerstar

7 Too many forbidden couples

This gets annoying.

Dovewing X Tigerstar
Bluestar X Oakheart
Alderheart X Velvet
Onewhisker X Smoke
Graystripe X Silverstream
Fallowtail X Reedfeather
Leafpool X Crowfeather
Crowfeather X Feathertail
Leopardstar X Tigerstar
Mapleshade X Appledusk

And there are more. It would be nice to have one everyone once in a while, but there are too many.

Forbidden Couples is highly overrated and annoying. It always goes like this:
Two cats falling in love because one cat saves the other or something like that.
And than they meet up for ONCE and it's a miracle that the she-cat gets pregnant.
The she-cat either gives away the kits or dies.
And that's all!

The forbidden couple is an annoying trope in general. What makes it even worse is how cats never get any sort of punishment for it. A good example is Leafpool. She ruined the lives of other cats, and what happens? Nothing! And that's just one example. It happens too many times to count. It's almost like the writers are running out of ideas so they grip onto the same thing over and over.

- this is very, very repetitive. when I read a new warriors book, I often sense a possible future relationship, a very repetitive plot, cats from other clans with cats from other clans together. There might not even be a definitive sign, but you just know something forbidden or "special" is to happen ( says the repeating plot and character development and " last book problem resolved " kind of thing). So,...have alll the kits you want cats, "totally not forbidden and not known of" - sorry for long text, had to be quite honest

8 Impossible genes

Fire (ginger) + Sand (ginger) = Leaf (brown and white) LIKE WHAT

Golden (ginger) + Tiger (dark tabby) = Tawny (tortoiseshell) ?

Crow (dark gray) + Leaf (brown and white) = Lion (golden) Jay (light gray tabby)

Storm (blue-gray) + Moon (silver tabby) = Snow (95% WHITE)

Gray (gray) + Millie (silver) = Blossom (tortoiseshell) Briar (dark brown)

Red (tortie toms are rare, usually can't have kits, and are sickly)

Spider (CATS CAN'T HAVE BROWN UNDERBELLIES)

Blue-eyed cats usually can't have blue eyes without white fur touching their eyes. They can, but it's very rare.

You're right! I'm very confused about that two gray cats (Shellheart & Rainflower) have two brown sons. And that Thunderstar (who is a ginger and white cat) is the son to gray cats (Skystar & Storm). And there are another impossible genes but I can't think of more.

Genetics don't matter, this is a series where cats are very much human like and unrealistic. In real life, a cat won't give a darn about herbs and stuff like that, they can't swim and won't naturally, nor do cats live in packs or have love preferences, so genetics counts very little in the series.

Does this even matter? It gets quite annoying when everyone forces genetics upon others' OCs. Redtail is a tortoiseshell? Who cares! Rosetail's design? I love it! In my opinion, genetics in books simply limits creativity.

9 So many cats in thunderclan

(As of The Last Hope)
ThunderClan- 39
ShadowClan- 27
WindClan- 22
RiverClan- 22
As you can see, ThunderClan has at least 12 more cats than any other Clan.
- Rosefur, ShadowClan deputy

In the beginning of the series Bluestar was like "we don't have enough cats" even though they had more than every other clan and to this day CONTINUE TO HAVE 50 CATS! It's just annoying.

If you look in the allegiances, you'll see like 50 cats in thunderclan, 20 cats in riverclan, 15 cats in shadowclan and 10 cats in windclan.

Yes, I mean there must be like 40 or so now, I'm hoping for a huge purge in The Raging Storm because its getting ridiculous and I don't think the authors can keep track of them, let alone the readers.

10 Spottedleaf stalking Firestar even though she's dead

Spottedleaf really learned some leasons from Thistleclaw. She was 5 years old when she died! 5 - 0.6 = 4.4 She was 4.4 years older than Firepaw, and in cat years, that's like 34 years older. A 40 year cannot date a 7 year old child! It is absoulutly disgusting and horrifying! Spottedleaf even continued stalking Fireheart all the way throughout her death, even AFTER Fireheart grew up and got married!

I disagree. Yeah come at me haters. I actually love Spottedleaf and think she's one of the bravest cats throughout the series. She died fighting for other cats both times even though she was a medicine cat and probably knew nothing about fighting. As for her "stalking" Firestar, let me remind you that Firestar was always HAPPY when he saw her in dreams. I wouldn't call that "stalking". It's two cats meeting each other willingly.

It's creepy, I mean spottedleafs like 40 moons old and Firepaw is just six moons when it starts, clearly Thistleclaw gave her some lessons.

I agree with you, Featherstream. I believe Spottedleaf isn't stalking Firestar, but they are meeting each other.

The Contenders
11 Cats being able to talk within days of birth

I can't find why is that a big problem. Irl cats are able to meow from their first days (when they are hungry or scared) and that means that in the Warriors series they can talk. I had kittens on my yard so I know what kittens are doing very well!

This is a book where cats live in the wild,
Use Old leaves to clean wounds, belive
In spirits In the stars and have powers and you worry bout this?

This annoys me so much. It's so unrealistic! Why would they need to talk so soon, I mean give them at least a month before they can talk!

I think that cats in the WarriorCats series can that and open their eyes so quickly, is because cats have shorter lives than humans, 1 moon for a cat is like 1 year for humans in terms of life span. This for some reason does not apply to Mistystar, though.

12 StarClan is biased

Mapleshade: goes insane because her clan turns against her, her kits die, her "mate" not only says it's her fault, but has already become mates with someone else, and she goes mad from grief, then kills the cats she blames for her kits deaths.
Starclan: "You'll never be welcomed here after all that you've done! Burn in hell!"

Ashfur: goes crazy because his crush doesn't like him back, proceeds to try to burn her and her sisters kits alive, as well as plot with two of the most evil cats in the history of Warriors and kill his leader.
Starclan: "Oh, it's not your fault you loved too much little Ashy!"

There's a logical reason behind Thistleclaw going to the Dark Forest, but what about Mapleshade? Her mate replaced her, her kits died in front of her, her Clanmates betrayed her. She killed one cat and caused the blindness and eventual death of one. And she gets sent to the Dark Forest.
I mean, multiple signs point to insanity/schizophrenia!
If Ashfur tried to kill four cats 'out of love', then Mapleshade did too. The only reason she killed Ravenwing and Frecklewish was because she 'saw' her kits begging her to avenge them. It fhat's not love, I don't know what is!
Mapleshade was a depressed, insane mom avenging her children. Ashfur was a depressed, insane loser who was so angry that his girlfriend for two weeks dumped him, he decided to murder her family.
MAPLESHADE DID NOT DESERVE IT
-Talonsnow/LunaTheCritic

Mapleshade: Had a harsh life, and killed cats out of fury. I mean, her kits drowned, her mate rejected her, her Clan rejected her, and she had nowhere to go.
StarClan: Whelp, lol, Dark Forest for you! See ya!

Ashfart: Went insane due to getting dumped by Squirrelflight, and attempted to murder her family, also helped plot to kill Firestar.
StarClan: Welcome to StarClan!

Poor Beetlewhisker. He should have landed there. I mean he died defying the dark forest!

13 The warrior code itself

Some parts of the code I understand, some I think are stupid. But this is just one that annoys me-

Medicine cats not being able to have a mate or kits. I can kind of understand the kits part, because it gets to be a lot of work while you also need to take care of your clan, but I say if you have another fully trained medicine cat it should be okay to have kits. There is always the risk of the other medicine cat dying while you're already pregnant, but that doesn't happen very often. Also, once the kits can have prey, you can just let a queen take care of them. And then the mates part. I don't see why a medicine cat can't find love. Kits could get in the way, but I don't see what harm a mate could do.

It can be extremely stupid, as well as the medicine cat code can be. I mean, how many cats have broken the mates rule at this point?

Oh! Let's keep separate all the clans so every clan can INBREED inside Itself and everyone can be related to everyone.

Yes, let's all get diseases from mating with cousins and relatives for YEARS and eventually mating your littermate (Yes, I'm looking at you, Willowpelt and Patchpelt)

It's gross

The cats will eventually all die from genetic mutations

14 A very repetitive plot

Every ark after Firestar's point of view feels repeated.

I feel like I'm reading the same plot in every new arc!

15 No gay couples

You guys say there's no les couples, but what about Leafpool and Mothwing? But it's true, there's no openly gay couples. And if it's really obvious, it's one of those illegal ones like with Jake and Tallstar or Leafpool and Mothwing! And that's so homophobic, and if cats can fight and wars and go to starclan and heal other cats with herbs, I think they're complex enough to have true feelings. If there are straight mates then there should be gay mates!

I actually read an article that said the Erins hinted at gay couples, but didn't do it openly, so the books wouldn't be banned in other countries.

They can't exactly have "gay couples", at least not in Clans because...the main reason why a lot of cats even got together is to have kits. That, and because cats are not humans. They don't have a complex mind like humans do.

This may sound controversial, but reproduction is a part of nature and animals IN nature, plus it's seen as a good thing when a couple has kits. Kits = more Clan members.

Maybe there is a gay couple in a Clan, but they wouldn't really mention it because it barely affects the plot (unless there's a conflict that results from it, which would make sense). Maybe they would mention two cats touching noses or twining their tails, but not much else. Warriors likes focusing on a lot of (forbidden) romance, which is pretty dumb now that they've done it so much to the point of cliche, but that's a "conflict" because it's "forbidden".

If this whole "no gay couples" thing is only due to people and their "shipping", that's a bit of a ...more

Well, the Erin's couldn't make a gay couple because the book series is worldwide and they couldn't make it because some countries don't allow gay marriage and people might get offended. Though, Ravenpaw and Barley are obviously together and Tallstar and Jake.
But they couldn't make any official gay couples as I said before.

16 Names that don't make sense

So many of these names don't make sense it's so confusing. who had the idea of making bristlefrost? I don't like to read all the warrior's apperance so the first rime I read the broken code I seriosly thought she was all white. my oc is named gingersnap which I think is canon and it makes a lot of sense because she has a ginger pelt and green eyes.

Uh...if you're worried about that, why are you even reading Warriors? StarClan doesn't make sense. The Clans fighting doesn't make sense. Mapleshade's existence doesn't make sense. The three don't make sense. And much more major things don't make sense. I don't see any of these on this list, but people are complaining about names they don't think are good or make sense...jeez, if that's such a problem, you don't make sense.

It's a book. Just like in real life, names don't make sense

Like people have the name jack, but it doesn't make sense

And twigbranch's name does make sense. It represents her growth from a twig to a branch.

I mean Twigbranch?! Who thought that was a good idea?!

17 Mapleshade going to the dark forest

Mapleshade should have gone to the dark forest, everything she did just leads to her consequences, and nothing justifies the fact that she killed 4 cats.

Um...what...? You think she should have gone to StarClan? Listen, she even wanted to go to the Dark Forest...

Yes, and ASHFUR gets to starclan, what type of nonsense is this?

18 The Warrior Code is broken so many times

I'm the beginning I felt like the warrior code was respected, never broken, and sacred yet.. after that it was broken time and time again, by now to me it's practically nothing

I totally agree and Thunderclan has BROKEN the Warrior Code more times than I can remember. Why can't most cats follow the rules of the forest. I still don't und understand why did their ancestors even lay out the laws in the first place if every warrior we now has broken it! I can list numerous cats that have broken the Warrior Code:

Greystripe
Silverstream
Leafpool
Crowfeather
Brambleclaw
Squirrelflight
Cloudtail
Yellowfang
Raggedstar
Brokenstar
Tigerstar
Hawkfrost
Firestar
Stormfur
Brook
Leopardstar
Spiderleg
Dustpelt
Ferncloud

Those are some rule-braking cats though I bet there's more out there.

Cat 1: I'm gonna go marry this hawt cat from another Clan even though the law says not to. DERP
Cat 2: I LOVE you BABEH! *chases after cat 1*
Cat 1: We'll live happily ever after! Yay!

Why even have a Warrior Code if SO MANY cats break it on a daily basis?

19 Tigerstar losing all his lives when scourge killed him, yet firestar only loses one.

I just voted for this so I can set things straight... Tigerstar never got his nine lives from Starclan. He didn't actually randomly lose every single life when scourge killed him.

Tigerstar did get his 9 lives. read the Ultimate guide! Scourge's blow litary ripped his throat open! The blow Firestar got was different

Ummm... how does this make sense? Tigerstar is more powerful than Firestar by a mile and Scourge kills him in one blow. Firestar then dies to Scourge and cheats death some how. Then kills Scourge because suprise attack. What the heck Erin's make a more logical plot Line! -Stormshard

20 The Erin's not being able to decide on colors (e.g. Crowfeather's eyes, Dovewing's eyes, Scourge's collar, Bone's collar...)

Yeah, that's really funny! I think that Dovewing's eyes are green but when she uses her powers her eyes are changing to blue-green. But I respect everybody who don't think like me and that's not a problem because everybody has his/her imagination :)

21 Snowkit dies just to move Speckletail to the elders' den

Whey even have snowkit then?

That was depressing

22 Erin Hunter confused Thistlepaw, Sedgepaw and Swallowpaw's genders
23 Spottedleaf having a gross crush on Firepaw

It's so creepy! He's like half her age, and it's like Thistleclaw, Spiderleg and Starflower all over again! He's married, she's a dead med cat older than Whitestorm! It'd be like if Longtail hooked up with Swiftpaw!

Think about it: Spottedleaf was about 4 years old/49 moons when she died, meaning she had been (If my reasoning correct) somewhere around 45 or 44 moons when Firepaw arrived. FIREPAW WAS 6 MOONS OLD AT THE TIME. Firepaw had just barely reached sexual maturity, whereas Spottedleaf would have likely retired to the elder's den in a year or so. THIS IS LITERAL PEDOPHILIA. The Erins are just horrible with relationships like that; revolting age gaps, love after very few interactions, incest (e.g. Graystripe's parents), etc. It's absolutely disgusting.

Spotted is SO much older than Fire, though I do like how she showed no affection toward him until AFTER she died

Spotted leaf gave fire star a life for his love for sand storm I don't understand anymore

24 For some reason the clans aren't united into one clan even though it would end all the drama in the series and make the group stronger.

The clans aren't united into one giant clan because of certain events that happened during the Dawn of the Clans. Plus, the books would be boring with just one giant clan.

25 Why is there even a Dark Forest

I AGREE! The Dark Forest cats literally go insane in there! I think there should be some sort of place where cats are given time to realize their flaws and be ready to forgive others before the dark forest, not a place where the go insane!

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