Top Ten Things Wrong With Warrior Cats

I LOVE the Warrior Cats series. It's a very good series, but there are things wrong with it. Here are some of them. I'm sorry if this list is kinda inacurrate
The Top Ten
1 Erin Hunter not giving Hollyleaf a power just because they couldn't think of a power for her

Right? I mean there’s so many things to do! I mean she could have a power where she can blind her enemies, see perfectly in the dark, turn invisible, the possibilities are endless! Instead they gave Dovewing the power of being a max-level Mary Sue.

To be honest, Dovewing wasn't that bad. When Hollyleaf hid in the tunnels after the other cats think she died, Dovewing could become but the third cat. Then, Hollyleaf could become the fourth cat all along, instead of Firestar. Firestar is in many prophecies, which is utter nonsense.

Powers? As in Draikinator's video on the topic, Hollyleaf would be awesome with the power to know a cat's true intentions/when they're lying,


I mean duh!
Hollyleaf deserved it way more than Dovewing(a lot of offense). I also agree with second place, but this is more like it. I don't rlly care about dovewing, but this is about Hollyleaf, people! At least Ivypool did something. Dovewing just pretended to fight off beavers. Hollyleaf would've actually used her powers!

I'm not even a huge Hollyleaf fan, but still. Even if this was an interesting twist in the story, it's awful that the only reason she was not one of the three was because the Erins couldn't come up with a cool power with her. Like, come on!

2 ThunderClan always being the hero while other clans especially ShadowClan are always the enemies

Argh, this is SO annoying! I mean, at first it made ThunderClan all heroic and stuff, but then it just started to get ANNOYING. ThunderClan shoves it's big hairy nose into EVERYTHING. RiverClan had a minor conflict? ThunderClan comes barging in. ShadowClan had new kits? ThunderClan comes barging in. WindClan caught a rabbit? ThunderClan comes barging in. SkyClan fought off a fox? ThunderClan comes barging in. The Tribe of Rushing Water has a new problem? ThunderClan comes FLYING in. ThunderClan is a clan full of mary sues and gary stus, since ThunderClan is victorious in nearly every single frickin battle.

I mean, it's basically xenophobic that ShadowClan would be so sneaky and evil, while ThunderClan is just, Above it all. ShadowClan has the smallest cut of forest and lives in poverty next to a trash heap (the carrion place)! RiverClan act like they're so much better, they're proud, but also generous, unlike the other clans, who think RiverClan is rich and don't respect them. They never help Riverclan out (it's so unfair!) WindClan, is defensive and weak, proud but disrespectful. They kinda switched types since Crowy became deputy. I liked all they're leader except Onewhisker. (Hate him!) SkyClan is portrayed as weak, though their leader is so Badass (Leafstar!), they can't escape they're kittypet ancestry!

ok why just why Riverclan is way better my mind by the way and why is thunderclan special? all calns have something different pine tree's moor river like seriously why

This is something I really agree with. When Bramblestar was checking on the other Clans in Bramblestar's Storm, ShadowClan had said they didn't need ThunderClan coming in, thinking they would help or " save " everyone. ShadowClan didn't need ThunderClan's interference. I think it was right of them to say that. ThunderClan brought back WindClan and saved ShadowClan from the nearby rogues and badgers, even though I don't think this should've been included in the way it was. For RiverClan fans who agree with this, they can say Crookedstar was the one who sheltered the ThunderClan cats after the fire destroyed the forest. At one of the Gatherings in when Bluestar was still in distress for choosing the deputy position over Mistystar and Stonefur, she reminded WindClan for the dept they owed for bringing them back to their home. WindClan angrily questioned if they should be ran by ThunderClan just for bringing them back again. This is when RiverClan and ShadowClan form a small alliance with ...more

3 Dovewing being the third cat when she did almost nothing

I see the ones below this and think wow most of those are ridiculously stupid better vote for a less stupid one. For example 14 because the injury that scourge inflicted on firestar wasn't as fatal as the injury inflicted to tiger star it mentions IN THE BOOK that firestar dodged the blow that had taken all of tiger stars lives. Sorry for the hate but this is plain stupid. Now another example is 9 Sorry your argument actually goes against science! Cats can have many different colour pigments and patterns also there may be dormant genes so ya broke the myth. This last one the no gay couples one isn't stupid but let's think your right there should be gay couples it would add more plot and is just rude to ignore them as these cats are sentient cats from what in know are only sexually attracted to the opposite sex. Though these are sentient cats and I agree there should be gay couples. Now look at the others with a new understanding really the farther down you go the worse it gets. Sorry ...more

I think that the power of 3 should have been these 3 cats:
Cinderpelt, Briarlight, and Brightheart.
Because they are all female cats who have suvived bad ingures. And I don't care if the timeline is off a little

Edit: sorry for bad spelling :(

Dovewing just obsessed over this guy she liked. Every other cat in the entire kriffing SERIES actually did something. (Excluding Silverstream and Spottedleaf)

doveiwng = doi. anyways like she is just obsessed with tigerheart and sat there doing nothing unlike leafpool who went and ran away!

4 Firestar being part of almost every prophecy

Firestar was alright in the first six books of the series but he quickly went down afterwards. The cat lost all of his personality and had to be the hero for EVERYTHING. It is so annoying! Firestar's arc is over, so get over with it Erin Hunters! Give him a break! Stop dragging him into everything!

Firestar is a fat, lazy Gary Stu. He walks in camp, and all of a sudden he's everyone's hero. And he has three she-cats going after him. Not that he can control that, but he hurts Sandstorm's feelings when he mopes about missing Spottedleaf. I felt so bad for Sandstorm when Firestar kept mentioning Spottedleaf in front of her.
Firestar sucks.

He is so overrated and weak and soft and stop me before I go on a rant

He is a kittypet with no clan blood broke the warrior code is to soft and is way to nice!

I hate this so much WHY is Firestar so important. WHY did he have to be part of everyone?! He can hardly fight!

5 Erin Hunter brought back Hollyleaf just to kill her in the next book

This pissed me off so hard when I found out (through spoilers) that I actually refused to read the rest of the books. Why give her all of that development just to kill her off again? Lazy writing?

What was that for I thought it was going to be better. But once you think about it what did she every come back in the first place and Hawkfrost that kills her why not Tigerstar

Let's bring back a good character only to kill her two books later! Yay!...

Poor Hollyleaf she went through so much just to die, it's not fair on her.

6 Ashfur being accepted by StarClan

Actually, Spottedleaf was mature.
A cat is mature when they are six months old.
The only reason to not mate is because of training.

Thistleclaw is a pedophile. He was romantically interested in Spottedleaf when she was a young apprentice and manipulated her. He was the reason why she turned from a warrior apprentice to a med. cat apprentice

Ashfur should've gone to the dark forest of mapleshade did.
He attempted to kill his leader, Hollyleaf, jayfeather and lionblaze

Ashfur tries to kill four cats, yet is in StarClan. Thistleclaw kills no one yet is in the dark forest.

7 Too many forbidden couples

Forbidden Couples is highly overrated and annoying. It always goes like this:
Two cats falling in love because one cat saves the other or something like that.
And than they meet up for ONCE and it's a miracle that the she-cat gets pregnant.
The she-cat either gives away the kits or dies.
And that's all!

Its More interesting Than
Brackenfur x Sorreltail!
I mean seriously?
Brackenfur: Hey Sorreltail, wanna go on patrol?
Sorreltail: Sure!

A week later

Sorreltail: Hey Brackenfur?
I am pregnant
”So interesting”

The forbidden couple is an annoying trope in general. What makes it even worse is how cats never get any sort of punishment for it. A good example is Leafpool. She ruined the lives of other cats, and what happens? Nothing! And that's just one example. It happens too many times to count. It's almost like the writers are running out of ideas so they grip onto the same thing over and over.

- this is very, very repetitive. when I read a new warriors book, I often sense a possible future relationship, a very repetitive plot, cats from other clans with cats from other clans together. There might not even be a definitive sign, but you just know something forbidden or "special" is to happen ( says the repeating plot and character development and " last book problem resolved " kind of thing). So,...have alll the kits you want cats, "totally not forbidden and not known of" - sorry for long text, had to be quite honest

8 Spottedleaf stalking Firestar even though she's dead

Spottedleaf really learned some leasons from Thistleclaw. She was 5 years old when she died! 5 - 0.6 = 4.4 She was 4.4 years older than Firepaw, and in cat years, that's like 34 years older. A 40 year cannot date a 7 year old child! It is absoulutly disgusting and horrifying! Spottedleaf even continued stalking Fireheart all the way throughout her death, even AFTER Fireheart grew up and got married!

It’s creepy, I mean spottedleafs like 40 moons old and Firepaw is just six moons when it starts, clearly Thistleclaw gave her some lessons.

She probably mastrubates to Firestar in the after-afterlife since there's no one around to catch her

It's so creepy! He's married, she's dead, she's waay older (Spotted's a cougar) and she's a med cat! It's soo wrong.

9 Impossible genes

Genetics don't matter, this is a series where cats are very much human like and unrealistic. In real life, a cat won't give a darn about herbs and stuff like that, they can't swim and won't naturally, nor do cats live in packs or have love preferences, so genetics counts very little in the series.

Crow (dark gray almost black tom with blue eyes) + Leaf (pale brown tabby she-cat with a white chest and paws and amber eyes) = Jay (pale gray tabby with blind blue eyes.


Where did Leaf's colors even come from?

Fire is a bright ginger when Sand is a pale ginger


Also, where did Tawny's tortoiseshell and white genes come from? Golden was a pale tabby when Tiger(1) was a dark brown tabby.


She is dark gray when BOTH her parents are ginger/pale ginger. I am confusion.

The genes I think come from cat's siblings and stuff and relatives but how are there so many ojos azules cats? Maybe I should headcanon that ojos azules cats are not rare in the warriors universe.

How did Leafpool (Brown and white she-cat) and Crowfeather (Black tom) make Jayfeather (Blue and white tom)? They're is no genes that would make him whatsoever. I get Hollyleaf and Lionblaze, but JAYFEATHER? It's impossible!

10 Cats being able to talk within days of birth

This is a book where cats live in the wild,
Use Old leaves to clean wounds, belive
In spirits In the stars and have powers and you worry bout this?

This annoys me so much. It's so unrealistic! Why would they need to talk so soon, I mean give them at least a month before they can talk!

Bluekit and Snowkit were only ONE DAY OLD when they opened their eyes, started walking around and started using complex sentences with no errors. Generally speaking, a KITTEN'S EYES ARE CLOSED UNTIL THEY ARE 10-14 days old and don't WALK until they are 21 days old!

I think that cats in the WarriorCats series can that and open their eyes so quickly, is because cats have shorter lives than humans, 1 moon for a cat is like 1 year for humans in terms of life span. This for some reason does not apply to Mistystar, though.

The Contenders
11 So many cats in thunderclan

If you look in the allegiances, you'll see like 50 cats in thunderclan, 20 cats in riverclan, 15 cats in shadowclan and 10 cats in windclan.

I wonder why Bramble doesn't just take over the clans I mean all the other clans COMBINED doesn't even make up ThunderClan's WARRIORS

Yes, I mean there must be like 40 or so now, I'm hoping for a huge purge in The Raging Storm because its getting ridiculous and I don't think the authors can keep track of them, let alone the readers.

Last time I checked in the New Prophecy, ShadowClan only had 5 cats?


12 Names that don't make sense

So many of these names don't make sense it's so confusing. who had the idea of making bristlefrost? I don't like to read all the warrior's apperance so the first rime I read the broken code I seriosly thought she was all white. my oc is named gingersnap which I think is canon and it makes a lot of sense because she has a ginger pelt and green eyes.

Personally, I think there are a lot of repetitive possibilities with names (hey, I have an OC named Stormstorm). Mumblefoot? Harveymoon? My personal favorite...Daisytoe. "Oh wow! A daisy near my foot! IT MUST BE A SIGN."

Billystorm is a great name, you do know that a Billy Club is a deadly weapon, don't you

I mean Twigbranch?! Who thought that was a good idea?!

13 The warrior code itself

It can be extremely stupid, as well as the medicine cat code can be. I mean, how many cats have broken the mates rule at this point?

Many apprentices did not travel to the moonstone

Oh! Let’s keep separate all the clans so every clan can INBREED inside Itself and everyone can be related to everyone.


14 StarClan is biased

I mean, HOW? how, how, how, can Rainflower go to StarClan? They should've known Ashfur is a worthless piece of fox-dung and deserves to rot in the dark forest! Also Appledusk, and Spottedleaf cus she's creepy. Mapleshade was basically crazy, and they let Bluestar even though she declared war on StarClan. Laughibng, cus she was right to.

Mapleshade: Had a harsh life, and killed cats out of fury. I mean, her kits drowned, her mate rejected her, her Clan rejected her, and she had nowhere to go.
StarClan: Whelp, lol, Dark Forest for you! See ya!

Ashfart: Went insane due to getting dumped by Squirrelflight, and attempted to murder her family, also helped plot to kill Firestar.
StarClan: Welcome to StarClan!

Starclan is so biased.

There’s a logical reason behind Thistleclaw going to the Dark Forest, but what about Mapleshade? Her mate replaced her, her kits died in front of her, her Clanmates betrayed her. She killed one cat and caused the blindness and eventual death of one. And she gets sent to the Dark Forest.
I mean, multiple signs point to insanity/schizophrenia!
If Ashfur tried to kill four cats ‘out of love’, then Mapleshade did too. The only reason she killed Ravenwing and Frecklewish was because she ‘saw’ her kits begging her to avenge them. It fhat’s not love, I don’t know what is!
Mapleshade was a depressed, insane mom avenging her children. Ashfur was a depressed, insane loser who was so angry that his girlfriend for two weeks dumped him, he decided to murder her family.

15 A very repetitive plot

I feel like I'm reading the same plot in every new arc!

One day in _________ Clan...
Tom: I love you!
She-cat: But I can never be with you *knows she'll end up with him anyway*
She-cat+Tom: *touch noses*
Moons later...
Tom: Hmm I say we give them to your clan:(
She-cat: Nuu can't leave u! :'(
She-cat: *has kits*
Tom: *goes back to _____Clan*
Kit 1: Mommy where's my dad?!
She-cat: *depressed.

16 No gay couples

You guys say there's no les couples, but what about Leafpool and Mothwing? But it's true, there's no openly gay couples. And if it's really obvious, it's one of those illegal ones like with Jake and Tallstar or Leafpool and Mothwing! And that's so homophobic, and if cats can fight and wars and go to starclan and heal other cats with herbs, I think they're complex enough to have true feelings. If there are straight mates then there should be gay mates!

They can't exactly have "gay couples", at least not in Clans because...the main reason why a lot of cats even got together is to have kits. That, and because cats are not humans. They don't have a complex mind like humans do.

This may sound controversial, but reproduction is a part of nature and animals IN nature, plus it's seen as a good thing when a couple has kits. Kits = more Clan members.

Maybe there is a gay couple in a Clan, but they wouldn't really mention it because it barely affects the plot (unless there's a conflict that results from it, which would make sense). Maybe they would mention two cats touching noses or twining their tails, but not much else. Warriors likes focusing on a lot of (forbidden) romance, which is pretty dumb now that they've done it so much to the point of cliche, but that's a "conflict" because it's "forbidden".

If this whole "no gay couples" thing is only due to people and their "shipping", that's a bit of a ...more

Well, the Erin's couldn't make a gay couple because the book series is worldwide and they couldn't make it because some countries don't allow gay marriage and people might get offended. Though, Ravenpaw and Barley are obviously together and Tallstar and Jake.
But they couldn't make any official gay couples as I said before.

Seriously?! At least one would be nice! Even a hint of representation! No? Okay then warriors has gone down in my mind.

17 Mapleshade going to the dark forest

Mapleshade should have gone to the dark forest, everything she did just leads to her consequences, and nothing justifies the fact that she killed 4 cats.

Um...what...? You think she should have gone to StarClan? Listen, she even wanted to go to the Dark Forest...

Yes, and ASHFUR gets to starclan, what type of nonsense is this?

She did murder 2 cats and tried to murder another sooo

18 Tigerstar losing all his lives when scourge killed him, yet firestar only loses one.

Tigerstar did get his 9 lives. read the Ultimate guide! Scourge's blow litary ripped his throat open! The blow Firestar got was different

I just voted for this so I can set things straight... Tigerstar never got his nine lives from Starclan. He didn't actually randomly lose every single life when scourge killed him.

Ummm... how does this make sense? Tigerstar is more powerful than Firestar by a mile and Scourge kills him in one blow. Firestar then dies to Scourge and cheats death some how. Then kills Scourge because suprise attack. What the heck Erin’s make a more logical plot Line! -Stormshard

It is like they WANTED tigerstar dead

19 Snowkit dies just to move Speckletail to the elders' den

Whey even have snowkit then?

That was depressing

20 Spottedleaf having a gross crush on Firepaw

It's so creepy! He's like half her age, and it's like Thistleclaw, Spiderleg and Starflower all over again! He's married, she's a dead med cat older than Whitestorm! It'd be like if Longtail hooked up with Swiftpaw!

Think about it: Spottedleaf was about 4 years old/49 moons when she died, meaning she had been (If my reasoning correct) somewhere around 45 or 44 moons when Firepaw arrived. FIREPAW WAS 6 MOONS OLD AT THE TIME. Firepaw had just barely reached sexual maturity, whereas Spottedleaf would have likely retired to the elder's den in a year or so. THIS IS LITERAL PEDOPHILIA. The Erins are just horrible with relationships like that; revolting age gaps, love after very few interactions, incest (e.g. Graystripe's parents), etc. It's absolutely disgusting.


not sure how anyone sane can ship them

That’s not pedo cats are adults after 6 months

21 The Warrior Code is broken so many times

Cat 1: I'm gonna go marry this hawt cat from another Clan even though the law says not to. DERP
Cat 2: I LOVE you BABEH! *chases after cat 1*
Cat 1: We'll live happily ever after! Yay!

Why even have a Warrior Code if SO MANY cats break it on a daily basis?

Person who made the warrior code=Rock, an evil 😈 cat who uses the Clans to cause pointless deaths, and for Mapleshade haters, she didn’t start the chain. Rock did.

I totally agree and Thunderclan has BROKEN the Warrior Code more times than I can remember. Why can't most cats follow the rules of the forest. I still don't und understand why did their ancestors even lay out the laws in the first place if every warrior we now has broken it! I can list numerous cats that have broken the Warrior Code:


Those are some rule-braking cats though I bet there's more out there.

22 For some reason the clans aren't united into one clan even though it would end all the drama in the series and make the group stronger.

The clans aren't united into one giant clan because of certain events that happened during the Dawn of the Clans. Plus, the books would be boring with just one giant clan.


why they would live easier?

23 Erin Hunter confused Thistlepaw, Sedgepaw and Swallowpaw's genders

Let's not forget how in A Vision of Shadows, Furzepelt is said to be a girl, even though in the past series Furzepelt was said to be a BOY

Poor babies their genders are being changed left and right

(by the way all of them a female cannonly since Sedge is the only one alive rn)

Yes. Sedgepaw is a she-cat and now a tom. I mean SERIOUSLY

I think rowanclaw is trans, anyone else

24 Names like FeatherFeather are possible

It makes absolutely no sense at all! None! Also, names like StormStorm, StarStar, ClawClaw, WingWing, LeafLeaf, and CloudCloud are possible.

Featherfeather, storm storm, berryberry, clawclaw,starstar, leafleaf, cloudcloud, breezebreeze, there. That’s what I know.


25 The Erin's not being able to decide on colors (e.g. Crowfeather's eyes, Dovewing's eyes, Scourge's collar, Bone's collar...)

Dove can apparently change her eye color ever other week

Done: Hmmm


Dove: It's green tonight baby

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