Most Pointless School Subjects

The Top Ten
1 P.E. P.E.

Something I've noticed about gym teachers is that they're either super fit and have visible muscles (even females), or they're super fat and have a very obvious belly bulge. There's no in between, your gym teacher is one of the 2 polar opposites.

Anyways, I'd rather be drawing or listening to music instead of wasting my energy on some random pointless exercise or wearing uncomfortably loose clothing and dying to be able to put my tight regular clothing back on at the end of class. And don't get me started on how I'm forced to uncover my left eye because I have to pin my hair up (including my side swept bangs) for this stupid class. Now I have to see my problems with both eyes instead of hiding myself behind my own hair and being in my own world.

We don't even do anything in this class aside from playing football and basketball. Sounds relaxing enough until you realise the PE teachers make the teams so unfair and everyone is stupidly competitive. Bro, this is just a football game, not the world cup.

Are you guys actually serious right now? P.E. is not a pointless class period, lots of people here are trying to point out that P.E. doesn't provide important exercise such as weight training. Well, did you ever realize that one of the main purposes of P.E. is to rid you of stress and anxiety and to just get outside to move around. Do you guys seriously want to sit in a classroom all day and go home to do your homework all night. P.E. is the time to just loose off and not be stressed out so much. I swear, people these days just don't want good things. How is running around and goofing off with your friends not fun?

Not a fan of physical education on a personal level simply because as someone with a physical disability it has always presented me a challenge; however, to dismiss the importance of this class indicates a lack of education in general. The principle is movement for a healthy body. We are not all athletes, nor will we all play sports professionally. I do agree more focus needs to be in aerobics and less on specific sports in these classes for that reason. Still, I understand the over-arching principle is to present a variety of sports to expose students to things they may be interested in pursuing. And that's the most important role we possess as educators, to offer choices and opportunities to students to expand their horizons!

2 Algebra Algebra

One of the most useful things you can learn. And to the guy who said only 20% of American's use algebra, well that just means that 20% of American's are smart.

Time spent studying this could have been way more beneficial in some of the other actually useful maths topics. Instead of figuring out simultaneous equations. Why couldn't we learn useful life skills like working out taxes.

Algebra teaches critical thinking, pattern recognition, and aligns to problem-solving. At its most basic level, there really are helpful applications for the general population; however, as you advance through the course, some uses become much more theoretical which is generally true for any math course. Again, it's about expanding horizons and providing choices for students to develop skill sets that translate beyond a mere classroom.
And no, I'm not a fan of math per se
(though I enjoy certain aspects). Still, there is no denying Algebra I and some basic exposure to applied geometry is a must for everybody whether or not people understand that premise. Trust me; it's needed!

That being said, higher level math such as Algebra II (required by most states), Pre-Cal, Calculus, etc... those are truly targeted specifically for students geared toward advanced degrees in Chemistry or Physics. All education possesses value-- but not all us applicable to everyone.

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The use behind algebra is to get us to think. I believe they should introduce these topics in school but let the children decide if they want to move on. Most would disagree by saying that we would lose most peoples interest in math by doing that because nobody would want to move on with math, but that's basically saying you have no faith in the children. I feel as if they are turned away because they are FORCED to learn the topic.

3 Religious Education

Personally, I think religion is the dumbest class. First off you have to do double the work of another class and have tests that are worth 50% of your grade. Second, off they teach you the same stuff over and over again. And what if you don't follow God does that mean you are obligated to do so? And right essays and huge projects about him. Lastly, if you are in a religious school (like me) you have to do work that most other public schools don't have to and they make it so much of your grade to push religion to people, and if you are not good at it (like me lol) it makes your GPA skyrocket down even though you might have A's in every other class.

I forgot to mention colorist, bigoted, proud of being jealous, unjust, unforgiving control-freak, vindictive bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser, insecticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, and sadomasochistic. Also all ┬Ędivine beings are capriciously malevolent bullies.

Religion is the most useless and boring class. As a religious believer. This class is pointless. They should teach us useful things about religion and how to increase our faith and worship God. They could save so many people from entering hell. And plus some people don't even believe in God. So if you force an aithiest to study about God even though they don't believe, then they will just hate religion even more. They should probably teach believers how to guide aithiests to believe in God. And they shouldn't give us exams and tests about it because religion and afterlife shouldn't be studied in a place where it's about to get a job.

I really don't care about this subject, I don't need this subject to become a children's doctor. I'm an athiest by the way. If you're religious then this is a free A*

4 Dance

Had to convince a friend for 2 weeks why doing this subject was a waste of time. Although I failed there wasn't enough students interested in the subject for him to study it at GCSE... He dodged a bullet there.

Dance is pointless, There is no reason to fail a kid because he doesn't like to dance or can't dance. You would not go to a job interview and be asked to dance so you can get the job. Completely pointless unless you're going to be Michael Jackson, then is better to take dancing lessons than dancing in school.

Why is this even a class? Literally the only class (asides from maybe Aspects of chemistry) where you can genuinely use the old "when will I ever use this in real life" argument. This class is stupid to say the least.

Dance class is literally useless. The only dance you need to know is the fancy dance you do with your wife after you're married if you are married, and you don't need a pissed PE teacher teaching a bunch of angsty kids how to do the cupid shuffle when they could be learning how to do taxes.
This is the reason I skipped class for the first time (well sorta)
I rest my case

5 English Literature

Honestly, it is the most pointless subject and a huge waste of time. I learn Macbeth and Poetry in this subject, god what a waste of time. I write loads and loads of paragraphs on the uselessness of Macbeth and Poetry. Macbeth (or any Shakespeare) and poetry is not going to benefit me and 99.5% students in the future. I honestly don't get why teachers think that Shakespeare and Poetry is going to benefit people in their futures.

I love maths and science but I hate this subject. Yes, it's useful early on but later it makes a huge deal about irrelevant subjects which won't help. Why would essays ever help you?

English literature is the epitome of pointless. It has zero value in being studied, and serves no purpose in the real world. Math is used to make everything from computers to bridges, history is important to learn to prevent past events from repeating, and science is important because it relates to things sounding us everyday, and has led to so many invaluable discoveries, such as the cures for diseases. And of course, regular English is massively important for obvious reasons. You may not necessarily use all the subjects I listed above, but this does not change the fact that they are still so important in our world, and a lot more problems would exist today if we stopped studying them. But let me ask you this: What would happen if people stopped studying old English? Let me give you the obvious answer: Absolutely NOTHING. Nothing would change, because it does not affect our world in the slightest bit. What is the actual point of reading this stuff? There is no point, yet high school ...more

English Literature is the very definition of a useless subject. We need to learn proper grammar, punctuation and spelling, not what the red door symbolises or what the dead shark represents in a stupid book with absolutely no grammar. People say the English language is dying out because of technology, but why don't we learn how modern english works before studying Shakespeare and his amazing use of OLD ENGLISH? This subject isn't even useful in any way. When you end up in the workplace, a vast knowledge of words and professional use of language is necessary, not the amount of bs you can pull from the top of your head. If you thought my grammar was terrible, wait until you see other people in my school.

6 Math Math

Math is useful up to a certain point when doing things like PEMDAS, sales tax, fractions, decimals, percentages, managing money and telling time. But once you get to a certain point where you have to learn things like trigonometry, quadratic formula, unit circle, logarithms, radicals etc., it just becomes useless and aids. You won't need most of that stuff until you want to pursue a certain career.

The basics of math like PEMDAS, sales tax, discounts, handling money, fractions, decimals, and percentages are useful. Once you get to a certain point where you have to learn things like trigonometry, geometric proofs, logarithms, unit circle, quadratic formula, radicals, graphing polynomials etc., it's not really useful unless you want to go in a career that uses it.

Unless you want to become a mathsmatician, it is a very useless subject once you get past telling the time, fractions, decimals, percentages and BIDMAS. Like how does learning the quadratic formula or pythagoras' theorem in anyway help me?

I get the point that we need it for certain jobs but...there's only going to be like 5 students in the entire school whos going to actually use this! We need basic math principles and then maybe how to use a calculator, that's it! We shouldn't all be forced to learn a bunch of useless information

7 History History

Honestly to me, this is the most useless subject and I feel like it just should be something you learn in college or when you know what job you want. There are so many jobs out there and very few involve the education of history. To me this subject is somewhat important but, I just don't get why we have to memorize everything, if I had a job that had history education needed, couldn't I just learn what I needed to learn that was in the job. I feel like this should be an elective. My opinion may be like this because of my teacher, (she gave us a 6-page review packet that was due in 2 days) but even my other History teacher was the same way so I don't know anymore.

History is important weather it is American, State, World, or Black you would be surprised as to how many millennials and gen z know nothing about any history. I have tried to show them things and I get "you can't believe anything you read on the internet", I would find it in an encyclopedia if I could find a set of those. Proving anything to them is impossible, I do not know where they get all their misinformation. History also helps in the understanding of government and economics and this is also an issue with our millennial and gen z.

I'd say that history is really important but only if its about your country. If your like a Filipino and learning about history of France, it just become meaning less to learn about France.

I enjoy history, but it does nothing to help me. Napoleon and WWII are interesting topics that I could learn in my free time through wikipedia rather than given a 10k word essay I'm forced to write by tomorrow.

8 Critical Thinking/Social Change

This is a topic for a-levels (college), it's so worthless that many university courses don't even accept it. It's pretty hilarious.

Critical thinking is a skill, not a class. Social change is the result of ideology and personal beliefs about systems that need to be tweaked for specific purposes in human interaction and is tied more closely to history.

As to whether there is a course someone slapped a name on to pump up self-importance: it's done all the time. Most "strange" courses are the result of dissertation students or professors obtaining grants, however. I'm guessing this course probably has to do with examining multiple solutions to current social crisis.

Never had this as a class since these skills can be taught in other subjects.

The hell?! This is a class?! The world is damaged...

9 Latin

Both Latin and Greek are precursors to most world/modern languages including what are known as the Romance Languages: Spanish, French, Italian. In addition, English possesses many borrowed words and phrases from these languages. Above all, Latin and Greek are universal in both the medical and legal fields worldwide and connect such individuals as scientists globally which is important in the advancement of medicine.
In this day and age, it probably should be elective, though. That being said, you have probably been exposed to it already in English, history, and your science courses more especially including Biology. Nothing is useless; the question is whether or not your place a value on it.

Teachers and parents say that Latin it will help with my vocabulary, but it really hasn't. I've never looked at a word and said 'ooh that word's root is from the Latin word...'. Also, they say it helps with other languages. However its never helped me in French or Spanish. Parents also say it helps with maths and science. in maths it is standard to learn about kilos etc. and Latin has never helped me in maths, same goes for Science. Latin is a dead language and no one speaks it. Hindustani /Urdu is more useful than Latin even though I'm never going to go to India or Pakistan.

Modern languages like French, German and Spanish SHOULD be taught in schools. At least they are actually spoken in the world and are used in many good businesses, but Latin? It's a dead language! Nobody speaks it anymore! So WHY THE HELL would you actually teach it?! All classical languages should be scrapped from the education system and replaced with French German or Spanish. Latin is useless in every sense of the word!

If any subject needs to go, its this one. Science is useful for scientists, history is useful for historians, music is useful for musicians, etc. But latin is useful for NO ONE. it's a dead language. I get some kids want to know it so make it optional. We also have google translators so I hate language classes.

10 Music

Music, art, literature, film: who can truly imagine a world without these. I certainly don't want to, and art connects us the most basic universal level of any other discipline. It's like a personalized Hallmark card with our stamp sealed on it. We need beauty and hope in this world to encourage, motivate, inspire and dare us to dream and create. This becomes a process tied to a cycle and life is a cycle.

"Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus..." anyone remember that? We need music and all other types of creative expression even if we don't pursue them personally, we are certain to gravitate to them and they provide relaxation, comfort, joy, hope, and inspiration. What a sad world, we'd occupy without them!

I disagree and I don't know how this is even up here. Music is perhaps one of, if not the most important aspects of life. To have a class that can teach you why, or a class to teach you how is just as important. Music is how people can communicate and express feeling. Music has been a part of civilization ever since humans discovered sound could be produced to make tunes. It is cultural, it is magical and inspirational. You take music class not because you are or are not interested in music, but because it is important to understand why music is so impactful in the first place. Who knows, maybe you'll even learn how to create music yourself.

Well music use to be fun in my school till this random bald nerdy dude ruin the subject .He has been teaching for 4 years and he is the most hated teacher in school. Everyone was hating on him for his abusive teaching style like forcing us to play perfect like bruh it's not like everyone is born to be a musician. So there is classroom corridor and the music lesson is just beside my classroom. Every time all my classmates hear the other class students crying multiple times. He once drag my bestfriend for not playing well during subject :(. Since that happens I was about to report him for child abuse revenge for my best friend but yeah he got a bit lucky that a covid 19 lockdown happens just right in time when the day I was about to tell the principal. So there is classroom corridor and the music lesson is just beside my classroom. Every time all my classmates hear the other class students crying multiple times.(by the way sorry for the awful grammar )

Have to vote for this one. Don't have Religous Education here (I don't go to a catholic school) so I had to pick this one (I'm sure RE would be my pick if I had to learn it). Music class is pointless beyond pointless. In highschool I have to take an art to get my art credit, so I took visual arts Grade 9 for an easy one (Didn't have room on my timetable for Grade 9 art in grade 9 or 10 as only 2 and 3 electives were available and I took the courses I like)

The Contenders
11 Personal, Social, Health and Economic Education

This subject CAN be useful... Not when you have a teacher who thinks of pointless activities... And doesn't teach you how to make a CV or how to get employed or better yet how to be confident at an interview

I have no idea what this is but sounds like there are too many subjects in one.

We can just learn it from people around us instead of learning it from school.

12 French

French for me by far is the most useless subject. I'm a freshman and I don't need French to become a Neuroscientist! My French teacher even talks to us in French and we have no idea what she talking about. She made us write a paragraph in French in a test and my classmates left that out. The test paper was out of an 80 but on my grade card it was out of a 100. I used to do so well in French last year with my old French teacher. ( My main class has two French groups since a lot of classmates and my other class chose French. My main class has 24 students and other class has 25 students. )

This is not pointless. If you're bilingual it opens up many career opportunities, because you get to work with clients who speak French, or other languages. English isn't so important, not everyone lives in America. Maybe geography isn't pointless. Y'all should learn it more.

Although it's good to be bilingual, the way French is taught in schools is ridiculous! Teachers only teach the grammar rules! Grammar rules won't help me understand, read, speak, and will barely help me write.

Learning new languages is pointless and downright stupid. However, some people want to learn languages and that's why I think it should be optional

13 Problem-based learning

Ummm in my class this is a follow up from reasoning, UK class just saying. So it's like Odd one out oh yes the others have a triangle and this one is a square. The snore of the week and the reason I no longer look forward to friday

This is a skill that can be taught in other classes.

It is called life

14 Gender Studies

Our school doesn't have this class, but as a feminine-presenting demigirl and a lesbian, I have to say that I can see the value of this class.

I do not have this class, but I am so glad that I do not. Just imagine, that one woman from that triggered feminist meme as your teacher screaming at you because you said that there are 2 genders.

Man the lefties are using new improved tactics to indoctrinate little kids nowadays.

Ok for other people its clearly about LGBT but for me it's about puberty ex. Its just torture.

15 Art Art

I love watching beautiful things but definitely not making artworks with my poor painting and my hand-making skills. This subject is supposed to be how to draw properly, not stressing students who don't know any art knowledge with difficult artworks, and at the end gives them bad grades due to their bad-looking artworks. I do not get why art teachers judge people by their artworks and call students "hard-working" just because they draw better.
Overall, people who want to learn arts can simply just join supplementary classes or watch Youtube videos. Making hard art homework is not what we the untalented hope to get from art lessons.

I don't get how P.E. is at number 1 and art isn't. Look at the facts, putting lines on a piece of paper opposed to getting physical education. People need physical education because how many overweight people we have in America. We also have a lot of stupid people in America which also includes for the people who voted P.E. for 1. Than people have the audacity to say Algebra is number 1. How do you people live with yourself? God.

School's depressing for me. Art was the only thing I looked forward when it came to school. Obviously people untalented and can't draw voted for art. And honestly P.E deserves to be 1 there are other ways to stay fit than run around with sweaty students trying to catch a ball.

Art is pretty pointless, if someone liked art they would do it outside of school. Not as useful as other subjects on this list, both below and above art. Spanish is on this list even though it is the second most widely spoken language in the world. RE is pretty crap but it helps to understand people's religions. PE has been said to reduce obesity in children ("apparently"). Science definitely helps also.

16 Chemistry Chemistry

This one is the most pointless subject. We're demanded to memorize details of all substances in the world. Man, we ain't computers, we're just a human being. Our brain is limited. Tell me why this subject exists. If I'm the minister of education of my country, I'll illegalize this subject. Basically, this subject is useless and only a burden to our brain.

I am currently a software developer. So, why the hell was I forced to study chemistry at school? To become a software developer you don't need chemistry at all. 90% of careers don't need chemistry as well, so I can't understand how is that we are forced to study this subject.

Utterly useless. Unless you want get a job that needed chemistry, then why bother teaching it to people that choose career like for example a business man, waiter, store clerk, photographer etc.

Chemistry is sometimes useful for making new medicines for example when a disease is infecting everyone. We need chemistry to make the new medicine.

17 Study Skills

They do not work for everyone. Every person's brain works differently. A human is a complicated being. I am able to learn in my own way, you don't learn in the same way as me.

I have a BA and an MS and am working on a JD. Think I have figured out how to study at this point in my life. Why am I forced to take and pay for a class that is an utter waste of my time and only serves to add to my work load, which for a JD candidate is already heavy enough. The 4 hours a week of work it adds is disproportionate to the 1 hr of credit I get that isn't even required by the degree.
There is no reason why this class should not not be no. 1 on the list as the biggest waste of time.

This is also a skill that can be taught in other classes.

Should be part of all classes and not a class on it's own.

18 Human Geography

What was the point of this class again? Oh yeah, there's no purpose to it. Geography has taught me nothing new. I've only had maps and pointless essays shoved in my face. In addition, I've lost countless hours of sleep typing those damn essays. I think I've only learned to hate--despise even--this absolutely useless and boring class. Thank God this is only a semester-long class at my high school.

Geography is about learning about the earth and what goes on below your feet. I don't care about how people live in Uganda... An actual examination I had to do. Is this going to benefit me?
I want to learn about the formation of volcanoes and how earthquakes occur. That sort of thing is INTERESTING!

I just can't focus in this ridiculous subject, it is idiotic, hideous, and is a waste of your time.
Like what are you going to use your knowledge of weather forecasting for?
Also, like what kind of job are you doing where you need knowledge of different rocks?

If you want to travel, buy a travel book and study it. Buy a map, etc. That's the only thing geography is useful for, the rest of it is a waste.

19 Spanish Spanish

Just saying, languages are for the most part elective classes. Besides, English is not "main language" of the world. Chinese, followed by Spanish THEN English are the top three languages spoken worldwide. If anything, Chinese or Spanish is preferable than English. Get your facts straight

Extremely important especially if you live in a border state! Roots in Latin the original language from which every major work has been translated. All language is relevant-- see my other reflections in sub-areas of this list for further explanation!

There are only two languages you should be forced to learn; Your native language and English, since English is the main language of the world wide web.
Forcing another language on a person simply because the country you share borders with speaks it is ridiculous.

Oh my god. This should be number one. I will never understand why colleges require foreign language for 2 years for admission. I know someone who took spanish to get into college and she doesn't remember ANYTHING about her classes.

20 Handwriting Handwriting

In my experience, this was thankfully not an individual class, it was part of English. Even with that, it still enraged me that it was part of Common Core (rest in pieces) but I put a lot of effort into it. However, cursive was one thing that filled me with anger as technology had already taken over (typing, which somehow, ironically was its own class which I cheated in and got a C+/B- in because I was bad at typing and it really also enraged me, but even more). I do think cursive is pointless. Few people write using cursive and others just text or email.

Not my problem if you can't read my handwriting. I'm better of typing anyways. faster and much more time efficient and I don't lose marks for stupid reasons just because my handwriting isn't up to par.

Some states don't even require this anymore. And this is not a class per se; it's a skill that's often taught at the primary and elementary levels. That being said, I believe everyone needs to develop a signature at the very least. I realize we live in a tech-based world and not everyone has gorgeous handwriting, but people benefit from this on several levels: learning different strokes that can be used in hobbies like calligraphy or even drafting, pattern recognition (yes, this applies to cursive writing), spatial awareness, and fine motor skills, especially for children with orthopedic problems or receiving occupational therapy.

There are computers now, and they have keyboards. How much do we really need to write? Not much, except when schools make you WRITE essays. Typing is way faster and especially with modern technology being more and more accessible, handwriting is not important.

21 Trigonometry Trigonometry

Another useless maths subject that everyone forgets after their exams

Math, so its garbage.

22 Media Studies

Unless you want to be a journo for a tabloid, a film reviewing feminist or interested in working for the mainstream media or film ind. Or marketing In any way, there is really little point in picking media studies as it doesn't really teach you anything valuable or useful that you couldn't learn in sociology or English class, or by downloading Photoshop and movie editor. Trying to find what the colour blue 'signifies' on a man's shirt on a magazine cover is NOT education. Most of the course was painfully common sense based and I regret choosing it because it isn't a very valuable a level. I wish schools didn't lie to us like this.

What? Why would this ever need to be a class?

23 Latin American Studies

What? Should be part of a Social Anthropology class not a subject on it's own.

Leave as an elective, not necessary for anyone to really learn.

Eh, not bad but not good either.

Why would I care about the states of latin america or just latin america in general POINTLESS

24 Physics

This subject is so difficult yet useless. We're demanded to memorized formulas yet it's difficult to learn how to use them. We won't even need them in the future.

Pretty much useless for anyone who doesn't want to be a physician. Also, confusing as hell.

Force = Mass ├Ś Acceleration. Why? Why do WE have to learn this? I don't think that in my place of work as a business man use this formula. Unless you want to be a physician this is mostly useless

I had a lot of fun sleeping in this class, and I didn't take away anything from it.

25 Science Science

By far the most useless. A question for the school board, will we EVER and I mean EVER use the information we learn in Biology, Chemistry, or any other mainstream science in normal everyday life? No, we will never use it unless we are in that specific field in the future (and in that case should be either an elective or a college class only). Honestly, Financial Education should be put in place of Science in the High School requirements to graduate. And honestly, half of what modern High Schools teach should be elective ONLY! I rest my case

Relevant, fun, and engaging courses with many sub-disciplines including Biology, Chemistry, Anatomy, Physics, Horticulture, Agriculture, etc... It teaches the function and role of life processes, explores the history and evolution behind them, uses applied (hands-on) experimentation and collaboration, requires that you ask as many questions as possible, formulate hypothesis as well as dissuade them. It's always based on discovery and therefore cyclical and never-ending much like history!
Fascinating and teaches various skills: problem-solving, critical thinking, mathematical computation, creative inquiry, etc... Definitely need these courses! Not only for doctors, more specifically as you advance (yes), but in general populations as well: teachers, chefs, engineers, computer techs, media specialists, farmers, ranchers, entrepreneurs, inventors, lab techs, etc...

Worst subject, so boring and uninteresting. Also useless, like learning about rocks, kinetic/potential energy, photosynthesis, etc. as more likely than not you won't need this.

Unless you're a scientist or major in a scientific field, there is really no use at all for this subject. I don't think science truly deepens our understanding of the world. It's great knowing how basic things function, but schools make us memorize complicated parts that don't help us understand science any better.

(it shows us how things work, but not why things are this way/questioning reality.. for example, do the things we interact with exist? Does knowledge really make you smarter? Are the things we believe "right" or "wrong"? )

the questions above are part of what philosophers study- they put their beliefs to the test and really QUESTION EVERYTHING!

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