Top Ten Warriors Cats Cliches

Even though we love the Warriors series, it does get a little repetitive, doesn't it?
The Top Ten
Forbidden Love

Honestly, forbidden love is only good if done right. The concept seems cute at first but it's just so overused...
I'm hoping that one day we'll get a warrior code rewrite that will bring more flexibility to forbidden relationships

Too many cats. Let me name all of them I know so far.
Blue x Oak
Leaf x Crow
Billy x Leaf
Reed x Fallow
Maple x Apple
Ragged x Yellow
Tiger x Sasha
Gray x Silver
One x Smoky
That's all I can list for now, but there are too many cats that have forbidden love. If Erin makes any more, well, I'm gonna explode.

I'm sick of it. dove and tiger? no. Blue and oak? (I prefer crooked anfd blue but eh) and so on, its just to common nowadays and I'm tired of it.

I don't find it "cute" how many cats actually care more about their love lives than the good of their Clan(s). You need to focus on surviving and protecting your Clan members, not going around with your tails intertwined together with some random tom.

The Erins seriously need to stop it with this "forbidden love" trope. They must have some irritating obsession over it or something.

And can we ever get any more female cats that DON'T want a mate and/or is not "lovestruck"?

Most of the Cats Are Related to Tigerstar, and Are Evil

Well actually Scourge is Squirrelfight's uncle so he is Bramblestar's uncle in law so he is Tigerstar's brother in law. He also is related to Hawkfrost but that's all. And Not all the cats are evil including the half of thunderclan he is related to so

His kits: Tawnypelt, Brambleclaw, Hawkfrost, Mothwing, (their dead brother). His grandkits: Flametail, Dawnpelt, Tigerheart.

Jake is everyone's father. Jake is your father. - Moonkitti, 2016

How is Tawnypelt evil?!

Everybody Training In the Dark Forest

Brambleclaw was training in the dark forest for some time, and we were curious as to where his loyalties lied. Then, it got even more interesting when Ivypool joined the Dark Forest.

Is super overused and got old really quickly

Tigerstar(heart), Crookedstar, Ivypool, Tigerstar, Thistleclaw, Blossomfall, Lionblaze, Birchfall...

The Cat With 100 Kits

Although this one tends to bother me less than others, there's characters like Ferncloud, Daisy and Sorreltail who are always in the nursery.

Actually this are real cats. Humans today have one or wo kids, but in normally wise she-cats should have one Litter pro year if shes able to have Thema.

Like Ferncloud who had seven kits in total.

There's Snowbird, who had 9 kits

And Milkweed, who had 8 kits (Dawn of the Clans)
Ferncloud, who had 7 kits

The One Arrogant Clanmate

*Spoiler! *

Sorry to tell you this, but Berrynose does eventually become deputy to Bramblestar, even though Squirrelflight is still alive...

THANK YOU! Whoever said that about Berrynose! You are now my favorite! IT FEELS LIKE NO ONE HAS READ THE BROCKEN CODE! People read it!

There's always someone isn't there? Foxheart, (Yellowfang's Secret) Dustpelt, etc.

Berry nose does he get to be deputy

Kits That Look Nothing Like Their Parents

Well, say a cat with white fur and green eyes mates with someone that has grey fur and blue eyes, and they have a brown kit with amber eyes. This may seem impossible, but say the cat with white fur has a parent with brown fur and green eyes, while the other has white fur and amber eyes. Now, lets say that the grey cat has a parent with grey fur and blue eyes, and another with grey fur and amber eyes. This makes it technically possible for the two original cats to have a kit with brown fur and amber eyes, it’s just that the chances are slim.

Yeah! Hollyleaf looked like her dad a little, but Jayfeather looked nothing like Crowfeather or Leafpool, though, he did look a bit like Ashfoot...Crowfeather's mother...Lionblaze looked a little like Leafpool.

Actually Dovewing and Ivypool could've been genetically correct! But I agree. How did Brambleclaw not notice that the kit's weren't his?

Guys. They're cats and are fighting, eating mice. How do you think they're smart enough to know GENETICS?

The Cats That Were Discarded or Unused

Hollyleaf was a good example of laziness. But at least they gave her a side story. Spottedleaf didn't become important until she died, and so on. Really, Erins?

Yasss you hear about a cat then there just gone!

SWIFTPAW!

SO MANY...!

All the Cats That Look the Same

Gingr cats are not that common! We need a cat with a amber eye and a yellow eye! And a lavender lilac cat who has green eyes! Give me a cream blue grey cat! Beach fang for the name I guess!

Once upon a time...
Tigerstar woke up in the Dark Forest. He opened his eyes, only to find that he was surrounded by brown tabbies.
"Did I just get cloned?! " he exclaimed, blinking a couple of times just to make sure.
"Yes... half the fandom calls us your clones," said Hawkfrost.
Meanwhile in ShadowClan...
Tigerheartstar was asleep. And then he saw it. 1000000000000 brown tabbies. "AH! " he shrieked.
The End. -ivystormrandomness

The most used looks in the Warriors series are as follows: orange tabby, tortoiseshell, gray, etc. Why not have more hairless cats like Rock?

There should be more white and brown patched cats. They're not used often!

Badgers

So many cats, even in the first series, were killed by badgers. Let us not forget the amazingly tragic death of Cinderpelt, ThunderClan's med cat.

Not all badgers are bad, just see what Midnight has to tell you.

Let's not forget that Midnight is a badger, too.

Cinder pelt, Molepaw, etc?

ThunderClan Cannot Keep Med Cats

Ever notice how ThunderClan cannot keep med cats? Spottedleaf, Yellowfang, and Cinderpelt all died not long after being in the books.

Basically they're all forced to become med cats:
Examples
-Jayfeather
-Cinderpelt
-Leafpool

They all die at some point too soon!

at one point there were...
leafpool, jayfeather, hollyleaf (knows herbs), cinderheart(knows herbs), brightheart(knows herbs) and brairlight(basically a medi too)
oh and sandstorm.
meanwhile, littlecloud is as old and lonely as always.

The Contenders
ThunderClan are Heroes

So, let's read the next warrior cats series! *A few minutes later* Okay, this follows the adventures of a THUNDERCLAN -argh! - MEDICINE CAT -e- apprentice who is the son of the noble BRAMBLESTAR -gasp- who has a PROPHECY and then brings back a lost Clan. I wonder if that puts you off. There is a ShadowClan cat who helps him in the first book, but then she goes and joins a band of rogues and falls in love with a tom. Here's something better: two regular apprentices, a tom and a she-cat from RiverClan and WindClan are sent on a mission to explore the rest of the area around the Clans to start their own Clan. Too many Clans? This is my kind of thing.

ThunderClan this! ThunderClan that! Everything focuses on THUNDERCLAN being the right, awesome, sensible ones! Yeah, let's focus on a ShadowClan warrior in Moonrise, when Firestar was trying to persuade them to work together. What if the whole series was focused on a different Clan, but the same plot? ThunderClan would appear to be the weak, begging kind, arrogant and self-centered! Weak, fawning kittypet lovers! Read Tigerclaw's Fury, and you might know why I think this and where I got that perfectly accurate statement. But no, everything is all ThunderClan point of view, so they're viewed as heroes! (Except for some of the mangas and super editions) Come on, start making another Clan important! (Remember in Rising Storm, RiverClan was only important when Graystripe was there. Who is ThunderClan.
-Silverfrost of RiverClan

Hey, ya know what I wish for this Christmas? I warrior cats book focesed on Shadowclan. We all was hear how "Evil and blood thirsty" Shadowclan is, so it would be interesting to see what they do. The main character could be an apprentice that tries to prove that Shadowclan isn't evil and this gets in the way of his/her battle training. The villein could be be from Riverclan( Really we had Hawkfrost but other that him I dare you to name three other MAGER villeins from Riverclan.) and you know BE A SHE-CAT. I mean quwad darn it, Mapleshade is the only female villein! (And no, killing Ashfur does not make Hollyleaf a villein. =_=)

Thunderclan get the prophecies( that we know of ) always seem to get the ' wise ' leaders. But just saying, they say that Shadowclan is evil and ambitious when, the have most of the bad guys. I think they consider Tigerstar a Shadowclan cat. Which makes no sense. Because he was raised in Thunderclan.

Mary Sues

SOOO ANNOYING!
If you need help trying to have a non MarrySue character, just get a positive trait (e.g honesty and talkative) and turn it into a flaw by looking at the bad outcomes of that trait (The character can be dangerous because at gatherings they can give away Clan weaknesses because they are always chatting, and their honesty means that they don't lie about it).

Firestar, spottedleaf ,fernsong, and many others! Firestar could have been a great character if he had not been made too great!

Dovewing, Star Flower, Feathertail, Silverstream, Whitestorm (he’s wonderful, but you have to admit he’s a total Gary-Stu), Violet Dawn, Moth Flight (maybe not 100% Sue, but pretty much), and even MORE! There are WAY to many Sue’s/Stu’s!

Ugh, I just hate Mary Sues/Gary Stus. They seem to make the story or roleplay boring and are practically the same.
Tabby with special eyes, bullied as a kit, prophecy about them, forbidden relationships, not being caught breaking the code becoming leader, never dying...
When will we get a story about a normal warrior who has to do warrior things, like hunt for the Clan and fight foxes and not become leader or whatever?

~Splashsky

Boring Villain

Apart maybe, Sol or Scourge, the Warrior Cats villains are a bit cliched. Classic Warriors villain; They're toms, Cruel, Power hunger (Usually wants to take over the whole forest), only cares about fighting and being the strongest, doesn't care about anyone else and shows no personality outside of being evil. Let see who falls under these rules; Tigerstar, Hawkfrost, Brokenstar, Brokenstar, Darktail, Slash, One-eye etc.

Let's just, quite a lot.

Yeah, it's not that they're 'boring', it's just that they are evil for dumb ( or no ) reasons. I love Mapleshade because she actually has a complex, through-and-through backstory of love. That's basically it for females. While in males, it's Brokenstar, Thistleclaw, Tigerstar, Hawkfrost, Darktail, One-eye, Slash, Redwillow, Scourge, etc. The only other female villain I can think of is Bee from Dawn of the Clans who I don't really count as one of the biggest antagonists. Just like, take over the Clans, be the strongest, kill all the good guys, train evil cats... I guess some minor " villains " could be Roach and Sleekwhisker, followers of Darktail. And I'm pretty sure they're both female. Although... I feel like Darktail makes Tigerstar look bad. What if they were in battle with each other?
~Owlpaw

Yeah, Darktail is probably one of the best villains and he had a super stupid backstory. But he's still like EVERY OTHER VILLAIN! Actually Mapleshade is the best now that I think about. She's definitely different and doesn't seek power.

They're all so 2d. They're all greedy, cold, cruel, ambitious and power-hungry.

Firestar x Spottedleaf

spottedleaf was in the nursary alongside whitestorm, who was in the nursary with TIGERSTAR.
whoa. she's old enough to be fire's mom

First,it's technically pedophilia. Firepaw was so much younger. Think of it as a 40 year old dating a 14 year old.
Second,she was a MED CAT. She cannot have a mate or kits.
Third,It barely had any development. Most likely,it was lust over love,as they barely talked.
Also Firestar still trying to choose over Sandstorm and Spottedleaf,and him always describing her "sweet scent"

Firestar, just get over Spottedleaf. Just...please. Just do it. She's dead, she was never an important cat to the series...while Sandstorm has gone through so much for you. "Sandstorm, you will never be my second, only my first." (That's not an actual quote) Everyone can see you didn't mean that, Firestar. Just ditch the tortoiseshell, for Llama God's sake!

~Silverfrost

Such a disgusting ship that literally had no chemistry at all.

Silver Tabby with Blue Eyes

UMMMM, people, what is with the silver tabbies with blue eyes! Black, orange tortiseshell, golden brown, white! When will the most beautiful cat be one of these! PLEASE ERIN, PLEASE!

Omsc most annoying thing ever. The most beautiful she-cats are always the silver tabbies with blue eyes. Feathertail, Silverstream, etc. And then almost every fanfiction out there has a main character that's a silver tabby and their names are things like Moon-something or Spirit-something or Dream-something. Tortoiseshells and black cats are just as beautiful, you all.

I’m one of the few people who doesn’t think it’s wrong to consider a silver tabby pretty. Humans have beauty standards, so why can’t warrior cats?

Being a silver tabby with blue eyes doesn't make you "prettier" than other cats.

The obligatorily famine/drought/ disease/two-leg invasion/fire the cats have to deal with in every single book.

Ideas for problems in the book without it being really dramatic:
- Cat doesn't feel they fit in.
- An enemy tries to take their territory.
- Cat overhears a character plotting something against the Clans, but the cat doesn't know whether to let the leader know.

If you are going to put a famine, drought etc. in the book, try to make it have a plot twist or bad outcome. If you want to be different, maybe make a cat help someone out of famine or drought but in secret, instead of them experiencing it.

Well, Those are all problems that usually happen. I can say that they do get boring, but still. They don’t always deal with those problems.

I mean...every story needs a conflict,but it's mostly these. I never see bears,or wolves,or secret assassins and spies being the cause.

Medicine Cats Falling in Love

To be honest,it doesn't bother me,and it annoys me for people to get mad. You can't help falling in love,or withholding certain emotions.

I don't know, It's a bit repetitive but I think it's cute. They should tackle this issue in the Broken Code

I feel like erin hunter just put that to anony us RIGHT (we see you ERIN)

Oh my gosh, if this happens one more time, GET RID OF THAT RULE.

Shadowclan is Evil

Let's just say this is all according to Thunderclan. Because Thunderclan has their very big share of evil cats. Bigger then Shadowclan!

It would be cool to get a story where ThunderClan and ShadowClan team up to fight some outside force.

They have Shadow in the name, so they have to be evil! No...no they don't.

Yeah ShadowClan is not evil the Place of No stars is. But many people think they r! come on have some imagination! ShadowClan is actually smart! They just get in battles with ThunderClan a lot. But they aren’t EVIL!

Main Character is Always Leader

Excluding super editions and side stories, only two main characters have become leader

Brambleclaw, Firestar, Squirrelflight will be leader and so on and so forth

In almost every fanfiction I've read this happens
- Primrosetail

Deputy isn't too bad, but leader... come on.

Good Always Wins!

Remember there has to be some balance. Bad can't always win and good can't always win.
*SPOILERS*
When the Clan cats fought the Dark Forest, they ended up winning the battle, but some cats got killed and some Clan cats went on the side of the Dark Forest. This is a good example of balance because the Dark Forest killed some cats and gained some cats in the Dark Forest (bad winning), but the Clan cats won the battle (good winning).

Yeah! A villain rules the clans and kills many cats (except Graystripe&Ivypool) but finally, after like 4 books, a hero rises up and defeats the villain!

It would be probably be more interesting if a villain won for a change.

That's not how it always works in real life.

Ships that Will Never Happen

I love shipping weird things like scorge and sandstorm! Firestar and cinderpelt fall in love in one au I wrote where tiger star leads and he also only has three working legs! Crow feather and tawnypelt could have been awesome if they had done it right!

For example: ashfur and scourge

Most of those ships are with dead cats,why ship dead cats.

yeah, every fandom and series has this. They can't make every ship canon

No Twoleg Notices When They Run a Cat Over with a Car

Yeah its weird

That is weird

Yeah most PEOPLE stop and try to HELP the cats they SLAUGHTERED.

Cats Excluded and Included in the Allegiances

Yes! Whenever a leader annonces "A new litter has been born to Blahblah", I literally ALWAYS lose my spot searching, and combing through the dang Allegiances, looking for the darn kits names!

I think that there should be a kit section in the allegiances. It would take ages and would be useless because kits grow up so fast in the books... but we have an apprentice section and they also go into another rank in six moons and a kit section would make it easier for people so you don’t have to go scouting in the books because you just couldn’t remember that book where that one character is a kit. My fanfiction allegiances have it, so why not the official books. to be honest, if you know your characters well, it should / will be easy to add kits! #JusticeForKits

Rosetail was not listed in Into the Wild and Smokepaw was listed as an apprentice THREE BOOKS AFTER HE FALLS OFF A CLIFF

No normal cat as main character

Lemme see... Leafpool is a med cat who falls in love with Crowfeather, not a normal cat, Firestar saved the Clans too many times, he's special, Jayfeather has powers, Lionblaze has powers, and all o that main characters have something different.

If there was a "normal" cat as main character then the books wouldn't be as interesting

It's always powers,prochecies and stopping calamities with the main character. No normal life

Seriosly. Not every main character should have powers. But I do love the books so...
~milkpaw

Good vs Evil

Sometimes the other side is not necessarily evil! They have their beliefs. But noo,it's always 'they're so cruel! they're so evil! 11! 1'

I agree. We should have more morally gray characters

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